The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • edited 2016-03-12 19:11:31
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Why did I order a caffe latte when I don't like coffee drinks. At least it's kinda sweet.
  • OMG NEARLY AT 40K WORDS ON MY NOVEL AND I'M NOT EVEN HALFWAY DONE. 
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    A stagnant puddle of petulant jackasses
  • edited 2016-03-12 20:18:28
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    OH MY GOSH!

    A cone is one third of a cylinder with the same height and diameter, and a cylinder is pi fourths of a rectangular prism with the same height for one side and the diameter for its other two sides, so a cone is pi twelfths of a rectangular prism!

    SO THE PERFECT CONE WHERE HEIGHT EQUALS DIAMETER IS PI TWELFTHS OF A CUBE!

    Heck yeah, Rozzy doing trig and calc to get... actually, really basic and elementary results.

    Well, shut up Archimedes, I bet you can't find the volume of a sphere either.  Oh wait, Archimedes totally did that thousands of years ago.  Stinking Archimedes.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Is it hacky to have one town in Centralia with a layout lifted 1:1 from a real life town?

    I dunno, I just thought it was kinda funny to do that...plus it lets me pull up Google Maps and just draw Centralia stuff over the real city.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
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  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    Is it hacky to have one town in Centralia with a layout lifted 1:1 from a real life town?


    I dunno, I just thought it was kinda funny to do that...plus it lets me pull up Google Maps and just draw Centralia stuff over the real city.
    didn't Bill Watterson copypaste Chagrin Falls into C&H
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    hahaha, yes he did! that was glorious
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    if that didn't make him a hack, it doesn't make you a hack
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I am in Chicago now

    I have to wait 45 minutes to catch a plane back to the worst city in the world
  • kill living beings
    Needham said:

    For centuries science has struggled to rid itself of the remains of popular demonology.

    clearly we made a mistake
  • kill living beings
    lol he cites carnap, what a time this was
  • Carnap, or as he is now known, grand theft auto
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Needham said:

    For centuries science has struggled to rid itself of the remains of popular demonology.

    clearly we made a mistake
    #memetics
  • I'm still not 100% sure why we're mad about memes now
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I'm still not 100% sure why we're mad about memes now

    Dude I could write you five essays
  • give me three sentences
  • well, between three and five

    six is OK

    basically, a shortish paragraph
  • kill living beings
    memetics is a poor attempt at quantifying anthropology, sociology, etc., based on an analogy with genetics so shallow that even the original writing on the subject has to mention the obvious flaws so that it can gloss over them.

    anyway, semen magnets > memes
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It is a dumbass pseudoscience invented on a whim by a hack pop sci writer, and then carried forth to new heights of idiocy by /r/atheists who love to condemn beliefs they dislike as evil fairies.
  • now that's just like

    a touch too vague

    because I haven't read anything in depth on this at all, I was just kinda assuming that it all boiled down to "ideas that both appeal to people and encourage them to share said idea outlast other ideas that don't do those things" which seemed like an observation so obvious it teeters on the edge of banality
  • kill living beings
    planets are just really big bees
  • It exists because pop-sci writers like Dawkins think philosophy is unscientific and thus not worthy of serious consideration.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Carry on good memes like the Silver Rule, "The map is not the territory", and "Exterminate the brutes!"
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    "The map is not the territory" is one of my favorites
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    now that's just like

    a touch too vague

    because I haven't read anything in depth on this at all, I was just kinda assuming that it all boiled down to "ideas that both appeal to people and encourage them to share said idea outlast other ideas that don't do those things" which seemed like an observation so obvious it teeters on the edge of banality

    All left-wing developments in history are caused by the evil Puritan Chtulhu memeplex- serious memeticists
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    "The map is not the territory" is one of my favorites

    It's useless
  • you know that's not a helpful response right
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Many of my favorite things are useless. Your point?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Many of my favorite things are useless. Your point?

    That's okay
  • I'm fully aware that memepeople take their pet idea to the hights of absurdity

    I was just kinda assuming that their pet idea was in essence a bland truism as opposed to something absurdly wrong
  • edited 2016-03-13 02:10:31

    so I wanted to like, learn more, not have stuff we all already know regurgitated back upon me like I'm an unusually stubborn baby bird
  • kill living beings

    I'm fully aware that memepeople take their pet idea to the hights of absurdity

    I was just kinda assuming that their pet idea was in essence a bland truism as opposed to something absurdly wrong

    it's, at least nominally, based on an analogy to genetics. that implies some details, e.g., you can imagine something like Mendelian inheritance, or the complex regulatory cascades that geneticists work now. the problem is that genetics requires some specific things from the underlying structure, whether biochemical or ideological, such as being discrete, some kind of fidelity in copying, etc. "memetics" actually has none of these things, as smoothed over/ignored by Dawkins in the original proposal, which reduces what would be a complex analogy to a field with tons of useful tools to, indeed, a banality. i wouldn't call this flaw "absurdly" wrong, it takes a bit of thought and it's possible to debate whether the analogy holds... not that people worried about memes tend to do so.
  • Hey, you wanted the explanation. -shrug-
  • kill living beings
    sorry if you already know that, i don't mean to talk down or anything. there's really not a lot more to it: the presence memetics has in nerdland is completely disproportional to the actual usefulness and correctness of the idea.
  • I'm fully aware that memepeople take their pet idea to the hights of absurdity

    I was just kinda assuming that their pet idea was in essence a bland truism as opposed to something absurdly wrong

    it's, at least nominally, based on an analogy to genetics. that implies some details, e.g., you can imagine something like Mendelian inheritance, or the complex regulatory cascades that geneticists work now. the problem is that genetics requires some specific things from the underlying structure, whether biochemical or ideological, such as being discrete, some kind of fidelity in copying, etc. "memetics" actually has none of these things, as smoothed over/ignored by Dawkins in the original proposal, which reduces what would be a complex analogy to a field with tons of useful tools to, indeed, a banality. i wouldn't call this flaw "absurdly" wrong, it takes a bit of thought and it's possible to debate whether the analogy holds... not that people worried about memes tend to do so.
    OK now this is good, thank you klino
  • edited 2016-03-13 02:17:05

    I was missing the whole "we're gonna take the genetics analogy and run all the way to the end zone with it" bit, I was just kinda assuming that the gene thing was just a jumping off point of sorts

    further proof that I am overly inclined to give people benefit of the doubt I guess
  • I have spent the past hour transferring Rain Forest Retreat from cassette to digital mp3.

    by recording it

    with my Blue Nessie mic.

    It's not exactly the most hi-tech way to do things, but...
  • I am now going to do exactly that again
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    I am in Chicago now

    I have to wait 45 minutes to catch a plane back to the worst city in the world

    Chicago, the layover capital of the world

    (no offense Cerise)
  • edited 2016-03-13 02:25:59

    @jane that's fucking dope

    did you know that legowelt records all his music directly to cassette and then rips the cassettes
  • edited 2016-03-13 02:24:54
    kill living beings
    memetics is originally from The Selfish Gene, which is about genetics, obviously. let's see if i can find a money quote...

    As an enthusiastic Darwinian, I have been dissatisfied with explanations which my fellow-enthusiasts have offered for human behavior. [...] These [various evolutionary psychology/sociology] ideas are plausible as far as they go, but I find that they do not begin to square up to the formidable challenge of explaining culture, cultural evolution, and the immense differences between human cultures around the world [...] I think we have got to start again and go right back to first principles. The argument I shall advance, surprising as it may seem coming from the author of the earlier chapters, is that, for an understanding of the evolution of modern man, we must begin by throwing out the gene as the sole basis of our ideas on evolution. I am an enthusiastic Darwinian, but I think Darwinism is too big a theory to be confined to the narrow context of the gene. [...]

    i think that's enough to get the idea. it (just) bugs me because darwinian theory is great for a situation like genetics where you have a reasonably one-way street from genotype to phenotype, but that's not remotely the case for ideas (since you can: think about ideas, modify them based on your various wants, etc.)
  • wow that's incredible
  • and

    all if it played at like

    80% speed

    because my tape player's batteries are dying

    why this

    that's fucking dope

    did you know that legowelt records all his music directly to cassette and then rips the cassettes

    Legowelt is a good person

    also he has probably not done this with a country hits compilation, which  I am about to do
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Does the tape player have rechargeable batteries, at least?
  • Does the tape player have rechargeable batteries, at least?

    no it just takes regular double A's.

    Chews through 'em like candy too. 
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I am back in steel hell
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    You might wanna invest in some rechargeable AA batteries then

    I know they're expensive but in the long run it'll be cheaper than continuously buying alkaline AAs
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