Like I said. Him scared the fucking shit out of me when I was a kid.
It's sad that he was the closest thing mainstream television had to LGBT rep in the 2000s
There was Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, but it's either been totally forgotten by now or didn't make it to the Philippines
I think contemporary reaction to it was that it was progress of a sort, despite leaning on a stereotype
idk about what aired in the Philippines but without that qualifier that's not true at all... during the 2000s there were LGBT characters and themes in a whole bunch of shows, not always positive, but usually a lot more overt than Him... if series with LGBT-related premises like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, The L Word, Queer as Folk and Sugar Rush are disqualified by the 'mainstream' qualifier, there was still Buffy, EastEnders, Emmerdale, Skins, Torchwood, Coronation Street, All My Children, Ugly Betty, Glee, Hollyoaks, Home and Away, and of course Ellen.
If we're talking children's TV i think Him *might* be the closest thing to an LGBT-related character in American TV at that time? But in the UK Byker Grove ran throughout the first part of the decade with a gay recurring character, and Doctor Who introduced a bisexual recurring character in 2005.
i don't mean to suggest that LGBT representation during the 2000s was equal or unproblematic, but i believe there were actually an unprecedented amount of LGBT representations on mainstream television at the time.
That was meant to be a reply to Acererak, not Anonus, sorry... i'm saying it was untrue that Him was the closest to LGBT representation in mainstream TV during that decade, not that Queer Eye for a Straight Guy wasn't regarded as progress.
I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
it was the only thing I could think of at the moment
There was an American version of Queer as Folk, it aired on Showtime here and always seems to have been kind of under-the-radar (Showtime's a premium service like HBO is but has never had the same cachet)
Sorry about that. i wasn't meaning to reply to you (see my above ninja post). Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is actually a better example than a lot of the things i listed.
i was thinking of the UK Queer as Folk... wasn't aware there was a US version.
I think it's just a pretty typical cartoon hairstyle dude
all trends and conventions had to start somewhere, though
talking to Anonus about this stuff has made me think a lot more about where various things i took for granted as 'stuff that happens in cartoons' came from originally
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I think AU's point is that old Hanna-Barbera cartoons are where the "typical cartoon hairstyle" came from.
Yeah, they've started some of the promotion for it and, um.
Can't say it's DOA at all, but my hopes are not high for a reason. (That reason being that neither Craig, Lauren nor Genndy appear to be returning, which, eeeeeehhhhhh)
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Yes. Contrary to popular belief, landlines are still a thing and most kids have probably seen enough movies to know what a stationary phone is even if they do not own one. If they live in the city, they are also likely to recognise payphones; a few probably even understand how a rotary dial works.
i'm aware landlines are still a thing, but even when i was a teenager, i remember some of my friends' homes didn't have one; they're certainly not as ubiquitous as they were when the original PPG came out
maybe i'm not giving children enough credit
still though, i don't see that a still depicting a more contemporary phone suggests anything about the quality of the series; the most important aspect is the humour, and this has nothing to do with that
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I dunno, it seems to suggest they're in the "we need to change this to appeal to today's kids" kinda mindset
And, well, they don't need to fix what isn't broken
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
idk about what aired in the Philippines but without that qualifier that's not true at all... during the 2000s there were LGBT characters and themes in a whole bunch of shows, not always positive, but usually a lot more overt than Him... if series with LGBT-related premises like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, The L Word, Queer as Folk and Sugar Rush are disqualified by the 'mainstream' qualifier, there was still Buffy, EastEnders, Emmerdale, Skins, Torchwood, Coronation Street, All My Children, Ugly Betty, Glee, Hollyoaks, Home and Away, and of course Ellen.
If we're talking children's TV i think Him *might* be the closest thing to an LGBT-related character in American TV at that time? But in the UK Byker Grove ran throughout the first part of the decade with a gay recurring character, and Doctor Who introduced a bisexual recurring character in 2005.
i don't mean to suggest that LGBT representation during the 2000s was equal or unproblematic, but i believe there were actually an unprecedented amount of LGBT representations on mainstream television at the time.
i was thinking of the UK Queer as Folk... wasn't aware there was a US version.
I forgot about those
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
it's a while since that last happened, isn't it?
all trends and conventions had to start somewhere, though
talking to Anonus about this stuff has made me think a lot more about where various things i took for granted as 'stuff that happens in cartoons' came from originally
you don't see hair like that in every series
Can't say it's DOA at all, but my hopes are not high for a reason. (That reason being that neither Craig, Lauren nor Genndy appear to be returning, which, eeeeeehhhhhh)
would children these days even reliably recognize a desktop phone as such?
i'm aware landlines are still a thing, but even when i was a teenager, i remember some of my friends' homes didn't have one; they're certainly not as ubiquitous as they were when the original PPG came out
maybe i'm not giving children enough credit
still though, i don't see that a still depicting a more contemporary phone suggests anything about the quality of the series; the most important aspect is the humour, and this has nothing to do with that
And, well, they don't need to fix what isn't broken