The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Railroad tracks in Centralia are owned and maintained by the Crown-owned Centralia National Railway, also known as Centralia Rail. Centralia Rail is also the primary operator of intercity passenger rail services.

    Metropolitan areas largely have their own commuter rail services, as part of their respective mass transit divisions. The largest of these is CAT, Capital Area Transit, serving the Queen City-Colerain metro area. CAT's logo is, naturally, a stylized kitty cat.

    Freight rail, in contrast, is operated by a number of smaller, regional transportation companies. These services began as private companies, and despite being publicly owned today, remain operated separately. Proposals have been made to consolidate the freight companies, but none have ever come to pass. Examples of such companies include the Maresville, Gloucester, and Ravenwood Railway.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    >Railway

    Not railroad, then?

    Anyway, i enjoyed reading that.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    "Railway" sounded better to me there.

    And hey, my favorite IRL railroad is called the Norfolk Southern Railway, so it's not like Americans use "railroad" exclusively.
  • edited 2016-05-26 04:25:05
    You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Queen City-Colerain: Capital Area Transit (CAT)
    Buttercup Bay: Buttercup Intracity Rail Division (BIRD)
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    And hey, my favorite IRL railroad is called the Norfolk Southern Railway, so it's not like Americans use "railroad" exclusively.

    i actually didn't notice this before you pointed it out

    Queen City-Colerain: Capital Area Transit (CAT)

    Buttercup Bay: Buttercup Intracity Rail Division (BIRD)
    i like this
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I pictured a train station with two platforms opposite each other, one marked by a sign with a bird icon and the other marked by a sign with a cat icon.
  • The bus lines here at home were called Capital Area Transit until last year, when they rebranded to GO Raleigh.

    YNTKT.
  • Aliroz said:

    MetaFour said:

    That's the fairytale by George MacDonald, right? Good stuff.

    Yes.

    When Yarrun doesn't read his books, I break his kneecaps.

    When YOU don't read YOUR books... I break Yarrun's kneecaps.

    Okay, RESURGAM FOR REALSIES.
    Dammit, I need those for walking
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It is surprisingly difficult to maintain Ash's typing 'quirk', i keep forgetting that ze has one.

    It's modelled on how i used to type.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Is...is Ash's typing quirk using proper capitalization and punctuation?

    Because that's pretty funny
  • edited 2016-05-26 05:03:38
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    For the most part, yeah. :p  Notably, ze uppercases the pronoun 'I', which i habitually lowercase by this point.

    There's other stuff, like lately i tend to use Chicago ellipses while Ash uses three fullstops without spaces in between, and tends to attach them to words directly with no space in between, which i don't think any style guide recommends.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Chicago ellipses? What's Chicago about them? Are they deep-dish? Do they have terrible traffic jams? Are they on Lake Michigan? Is Cerise nearby?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Perhaps they are all of those things.

    (They are . . . recommended by the Chicago Manual of Style.)
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    that ellipsis makes it look like 'recommended' is a euphemism for something more sinister, like i'm being coerced or something, but it's not
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    To clarify what I meant earlier with the Windows 10 thing:

    Suppose, for example, you were presented with a dialog that says "Your user account has been created." I would not consider it reasonable to expect that merely dismissing the message would delete the user account, because it wasn't asking a question "Do you want to create a user account?", it was merely making a statement about something that had already happened.

    Similarly, given the phrasing "An upgrade has been scheduled", I wouldn't have the expectation that dismissing the message would "un-schedule" the upgrade. Because, again, the wording was not "Do you want to upgrade?", it was "this upgrade has already been scheduled."

    The difference between the two scenarios seems to be that Microsoft is intentionally trying to trick people who dismiss the dialog without actually reading the text, since this one is different than the previous ones that did pose a question. You could argue that that's underhanded, and you'd probably be right, but as a general rule I tend not to have sympathy for people who click past things without reading them and later find it's had an undesired consequence.
  • kill living beings
    as a general rule i have no sympathy for microsoft
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    as a general rule i have no sympathy for microsoft

    I dunno, maybe my thinking is flawed in that I've sorta considered Microsoft a non-entity here. Like, I'm approaching it from the point of view of "what Microsoft is doing is the way things are, there's no sense in saying it shouldn't be that way."
  • in my imo it is not unreasonable to expect computers to not do things you didn't tell them to do
  • kill living beings
    eyelid noises
  • edited 2016-05-26 06:52:15
    kill living beings
    the dialogue in isolation would probably not be bothersome, but it is not in isolation, it is the latest display to the user in a series of progressively more impossible to stave off upgrades

    as far as i understand the situation
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    eyelid noises

    is there an onomatopoeia for that?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    how many more years till America can say "oh right, 9/11 happened a long time ago, we don't need this paranoid 'Department of Homeland Security' bullshit anymore"?
  • To clarify what I meant earlier with the Windows 10 thing:


    Suppose, for example, you were presented with a dialog that says "Your user account has been created." I would not consider it reasonable to expect that merely dismissing the message would delete the user account, because it wasn't asking a question "Do you want to create a user account?", it was merely making a statement about something that had already happened.

    Similarly, given the phrasing "An upgrade has been scheduled", I wouldn't have the expectation that dismissing the message would "un-schedule" the upgrade. Because, again, the wording was not "Do you want to upgrade?", it was "this upgrade has already been scheduled."

    The difference between the two scenarios seems to be that Microsoft is intentionally trying to trick people who dismiss the dialog without actually reading the text, since this one is different than the previous ones that did pose a question. You could argue that that's underhanded, and you'd probably be right, but as a general rule I tend not to have sympathy for people who click past things without reading them and later find it's had an undesired consequence.
    If people are making this mistake constantly, it is the job of UI designers to fix it. Microsoft isn't dumb; they know that people gravitate towards the X when they just want to not deal with something. The decision to have the update designed in that way was just that; a decision consciously made for the purpose of having people install Windows 10 without thinking about it.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    At this point, there are two categories of people still on Windows 7 and 8: (a) people who know enough to make the conscious decision not to install Windows 10, and (b) people who don't pay attention or care as long as their computer keeps working.

    Here's where I fundamentally disagree with a lot of people: I feel that, if you belong to group (b), it's entirely fair for Microsoft to step in and say "we're making this decision for you."

    The fact that people in group (a) get irritated by it is just a side effect.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    eyelid noises

    Zorak makes those
  • At this point, there are two categories of people still on Windows 7 and 8: (a) people who know enough to make the conscious decision not to install Windows 10, and (b) people who don't pay attention or care as long as their computer keeps working.


    Here's where I fundamentally disagree with a lot of people: I feel that, if you belong to group (b), it's entirely fair for Microsoft to step in and say "we're making this decision for you."

    The fact that people in group (a) get irritated by it is just a side effect.
    It reeks of potential for overreach, and I'd say it sets a precedent for them taking advantage of how little the average person knows about computers (because they're fucking complicated) but they totally already have and this is just a reminder of that.
  • edited 2016-05-26 14:35:06
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i suppose the difference for me is i never thought of Microsoft as a non-entity here, to me it was like, these assholes keep antagonizing me for some reason???

    i tend to feel more strongly about my computer than i do my other possessions, i basically treat it as an extension of my own brain, voice and memory, so the idea of someone else changing it without my consenting makes me angry.  But even setting that aside, to my mind, if you belong to group (b), your computer is your stuff.  You own it.  Microsoft screwing around with it is a bit like if they came into your house and rearranged your furniture and repainted your walls.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It's treating the users like babies, is what it is.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i guess the thing is, my usual attitude would put me in group (b). i can recognize that it's in my interests to upgrade if i can, but that's a conclusion formed as a result of prior experience using computers and finding that in the long term, my experiences with up-to-date computers have tended to be better. But at the same time, i have always been very resistant to changing technologies. It's why i stuck stubbornly with Nintendo when all my classmates said Sony and Microsoft had more powerful consoles. It's why it's 2016 and i still haven't hopped on the smartphone bandwagon, which isn't really a bandwagon anymore it's an ubiquitous technology like owning a TV or a car or a microwave.

    This probably goes back to my upbringing; my parents always took the attitude that if something still works, it's not worth spending money to replace it, not when there's bills and rent and other expenses to pay. i wasn't allowed the latest version of everything, so i started to resent it when my classmates acted like you weren't cool if you didn't have the latest whatever. When companies would advertise their products as the new, best, must-have model, i interpreted it the same way, as an attempt to shame me into buying something expensive that i didn't need because it was *better*, when what i had was *adequate*.
  • edited 2016-05-26 14:53:51
    My dreams exceed my real life
    nm
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i don't feel i can adequately respond to that, but the behaviour you described isn't defensible.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Just forget I said that.

    Tired of having to prove things which should be instantly noticeable to anyone with eyes..
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    mate i just don't read that one guy's blog extensively

    i don't disbelieve you, i've seen the kind of rubbish Scott Alexander writes
  • edited 2016-05-26 15:08:41
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    After a heady night out on the tiles
    As the the nightclubs spill onto the street
    There's vodka and wine and blood in the gutters
    The drunkards they mutter unsteady on their feet
    Wouldn't it be fine to climb up on the roof
    See the lights of the city spread out like a galaxy?
    And with a little Dutch courage inside of me
    I'll take a leap of faith in search of proof

    Here I sway as the hinge of the year swings around
    One sip from the hip flask just might bring the ground a little nearer
    Might bring these swirling lights clearer
    Might just topple this fear
    As the hinge of the year swings around

    Searching for proof that these feathers are no flight of fancy
    Although, they've never been flown
    Been hiding them under my coat all the winter
    But lately how they've grown
    And so have I, shot up like a weed through the concrete
    I'm sweeter than honey mead, that's what they tell me
    I make them so heady, a little unsteady on their feet
    Until they run from me

    Here I sway as the hinge of the year swings around
    One sip from the hip flask just might bring the ground a little nearer
    Might bring these swirling lights clearer
    Might just topple this fear
    As the hinge of the year swings around

    I won't be anyone's stone carved angel
    I'm gristle and feather and bone
    I won't be anyone's bird in a cage
    No freakshow on a stage
    So leave me alone
    I knew I was different ever since I hatched out
    And I don't need to stumble on rooftops and shout

    But here I sway as the hinge of the year swings around
    One sip from the hip flask just might bring the ground a little nearer
    Might bring these swirling lights clearer
    Might just topple this fear
    As the hinge of the year swings around

    Here I sway as the hinge of the year swings around
    One sip from the hip flask just might bring the ground a little nearer
    Might bring these swirling lights clearer
    Might just topple this fear
    As the hinge of the year swings around

    I'll take my first footing and part with my old friend the ground
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    moo
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    benjamin dilzraeli ‏@adventuresofrob May 18  Great Britain is now a Muslim country. These Arabic road signs point the way to the local benefits office, no doubt.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    that has to be a troll post
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Almost certainly
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Llanllwchaearn
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Princess Charlotte of England is adorable.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Abe Vigoda
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    aaron spelling
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    clearly staying at Worst Western was a mistake
  • fight. dream. horse. love.
    Blizzard is playing the Tumblr Shipping Bait game so well with Overwatch i'm considering buying a multiplayer FPS
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    How do you guys feel about Centralia's new cat-themed railway?
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