The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • oh you were talking to someone else

    nevermind.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Kexruct said:

    But on the whole worldbuilding is a massive timesink and can be the writing equivalent of junk food if you're not careful. I don't necessarily know your situation with writing but if I had to guess you're probably in a good position to Write Your Damn Novel as it is, right now. You should at least try to see how much you can write if only to test out what does and doesn't work about your worldbuilding, because you never really know until you actually start Writing Your Damn Novel

    That is fair, but that's less of an issue with worldbuilding itself than the writer not actually writing. After all, Tolkien's stories emerged out of worldbuilding inasmuch as the world sprang from the stories, if not more so; and while inconsistency in some areas can make a world seem larger by implying divergent interpretations of information, lost histories, and people making mistakes or lying, if this is not kept track of it can seem lazy. Inconsistency should be consistent.
    sunn wolf said:

    posting from the national palace museum. qing dynasty furniture is pretty chill

    Cool.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Qing Dynasty has cool stuff.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    worlds need characters

    build your characters
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I actually hate the Qing Dynasty queues and qipaos (but not cheongsams).
  • edited 2016-02-01 08:15:40
    kill living beings

    legit i wanted to ask the ravers for 5-meo-dipt, but like they're gonna hve some obscure nerd drug

    Coil were apparently fans of 5-MeO-DMT, which is a very different chemical in terms of effect but I think similar in composition?
    well, they're the same except DiPT has isopropyls where DMT has methyls ("ip", "m"), yeah. but that doesn't mean much in biology, where one carbon atom changes which steroid it is
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Write Your Damn Novel is clearly good advice but i find i get stuck on the worldbuilding a lot

    i worry a lot about really blatant inconsistencies, the kind that are so obvious to the reader that they stick out a mile, and not catching those

    worldbuilding from the ground up seems like it might be a way to avoid that?  i dunno, though, even with that i'm still liable to write stuff that doesn't make any sense, like the time i wrote an action scene which required a character to stretch to her full height in a space where there clearly wasn't room; i didn't catch this without it being pointed out to me

    really at where i'm at right now any writing at all is difficult, so if what i can write at a given moment in time is worldbuilding, i consider that preferable to not writing at all
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I write a lot of... inaction scenes, if I'm being honest.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I guess character means a lot to me because I started with fanfic...
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    No, character's important in pretty much any creative avenue that actually has people doing things. Even the absence of character can be key.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Characterization > Worldbuilding

    that holds true in nearly all cases, at any rate
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Setting *is*, however, an important part of writing that should not be neglected

    but there's a difference between building a story-world that the reader can get lost in, and "worldbuilding" as the term is often used which tends to entail a lot of focus on minutiae that may never be relevant to the story
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I would say that whether one prioritises character, world, or plot, and in what order, can tell a prospective reader a lot about how someone writes before they even see a paragraph.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Or, to add a fourth parameter: Philosophy or message.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    I write a lot of... inaction scenes, if I'm being honest.

    Also: i see nothing wrong with this

    writing is better than not writing; writing that doesn't contribute to the story might be better off cut from the finished novel, but was not a waste of time
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i tend to prioritize character, i suppose

    all 4 are important
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    I write a lot of... inaction scenes, if I'm being honest.

    Also: i see nothing wrong with this

    writing is better than not writing; writing that doesn't contribute to the story might be better off cut from the finished novel, but was not a waste of time
    I guess I mean that I don't write a lot of scenes where characters are Doing Things—let alone violent things, like what is generally implied by the phrase "action scene," which is ironic given that one of the plots in the long thing I'm writing is about a bunch of hitmen en route to murder a magician.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    i tend to prioritize character, i suppose

    all 4 are important

    Same, to my mind, on both counts.

    I'm not sure what sort of philosophy I'm setting forth in what I'm writing, besides exploring the notion of samsara.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    the action scene i was referencing wasn't violent; tbh i don't really know how to write fights, and haven't read many books involving them

    conversational scenes and descriptive passages are much easier

    that is an intriguing premise, by the way

    although i can't stick around right now, i should be interested to hear you elaborate on it, if you are willing
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I've been thinking about posting a summary of The Doorstop-In-Progress in my writing thread for a while now, so check that out tomorrow, maybe?
  • I tend to use characters to explore settings

    which is why I am not particularly proud of my writing, lol
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    It's a legitimate device.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    I tend to use characters to explore settings


    which is why I am not particularly proud of my writing, lol
    Honestly, that would probably make you a good game designer.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I didn't get to run my game, but I had a lot of fun with someone else's game.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
  • Ugh...

    Feel like I have a demon baby trying to claw its way out of my uterus. 
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Characters can't exist in the absence of setting, that's what trips me up, and before i know it i've been drawn into wordbuilding just so i can figure out how the character sees the world and what experiences they had growing up

    another problem i have is that i tend to want my own characters to be static, while the best characters in other people's writing are dynamic.  like i'll start with a concept and flesh it out into a fully-formed character, and then i'll want to keep them that way, when a story has to have developments and must end eventually
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.

    image

    Huh.

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  • My best friend and I kinda did the collaborative world building thing with Stuck and honestly doing so made the point where I was most invested in the 'verse (2012-13ish, I guess) significantly more enjoyable than it would have been on my own
  • (and honestly one of the reasons I haven't done as much with it recently is because I've been holding onto the core ideas of the series for a decade and the inspiration's kind of faded as time went by)
  • My left wrist may be broken

    Fun times
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    :(
  • The doctor wanted to get an x-ray of it just to be sure, but it is incredibly sore and I can't put any weight on it. The rest of my arm in just sprained and bruised.
  • Internally bruised.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Oh no.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Oww

    I'm sorry

    How long will it take to heal?
  • Going to skip the rest of this lecture that I'm supposed to be, go to the pharmacist to get an antibiotic cream for my chin spot and get a wrist support and get it sorted out tomorrow morning.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Bad news: my therapist cancelled on me today

    Good news: my psychiatrist had a cancellation so I can get in to see him today

    It works out
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Uhhhh...

    If anyone's curious as to what the thing I'm writing is about or wants to ask any questions, I've posted an excessively long synopsis in my writing thread. It would really make me feel validated as a human being of worth and meaning in this world.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    I read it but was too tired to comment. I'll give it another look after I do my errands today. To say the least, I liked it.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    headphones
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    word and image
  • image
    Yay for sprained wrist
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    ouch.
  • My doctor has requested an x-ray just to make sure that it's not broken. I don't think it is, but just to be on the safe side, I'm getting it x-rayed tomorrow.

    As well as getting a blood test done to check that I don't have any underlying problems which could explain my moodswings. 

    My left arm is going to be a wreck tomorrow. 
  • meow meow meowtherfuckers
    Uuugh this bus better not make me late to class istg I've been waiting at this stop too long
  • meow meow meowtherfuckers
    Sure would be nice if you could get a late bus pass for school/work in America like you can in Japan. Or at least an apology. Or anything.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Would it ever.
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