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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    flyover country
  • kill living beings
    me, i live in the old northwest
  • my dad sent me this photo he took of me earlier today and like holy shit wow resting bitch face
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    "resting bitch face"?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    You look unhappy even when your face is neutral.

    Apparently, it's a standard mode for many women.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    oh, I've been told I'm like that too, actually

    weird
  • edited 2014-11-15 02:20:25
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    like, culturally


    I am pretty reasonably sure I could identify people from New York, Texas, Florida, California, and Pennsylvania but that last one only because I live there.

    Most of the states are pretty nondescript on their own, or are part of larger multistate vagueities like Delmarva.
    Oregon, Washington, Michigan, Louisiana, Tennessee, Illinois and Georgia all have pretty strong cultural significance in one way or another. Just going by music we have, respectively: Every freaky-ass hipster band ever; grunge and sludge metal; the origins of garage punk and techno; the birth place of jazz, big band and Delta blues (with Mississippi rolled in); all the country that isn't from Texas (or Oklahoma), basically; jump blues, hot jazz and house; and half of the college cult hit rock bands of the last thirty years.
  • like, culturally


    I am pretty reasonably sure I could identify people from New York, Texas, Florida, California, and Pennsylvania but that last one only because I live there.

    Most of the states are pretty nondescript on their own, or are part of larger multistate vagueities like Delmarva.
    Oregon, Washington, Michigan, Louisiana, Tennessee, Illinois and Georgia all have pretty strong cultural significance in one way or another. Just going by music we have, respectively: Every freaky-ass hipster band ever; grunge and sludge metal; the origins of garage punk and techno; the birth place of jazz, big band and Delta blues (with Mississippi rolled in); all the country that isn't from Texas (or Oklahoma), basically; jump blues, hot jazz and house; and half of the college cult hit rock bands of the last thirty years.
    that's not quite what I mean


    like, in terms of defining what Americans are like to people who are not Americans.
  • I can often not really make heads nor tails of TinyMixtape reviews.
  • edited 2014-11-15 02:35:23
    New England (Northeast part 1a) (rural section) - Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, western Massachusetts, upstate New York
    New England (Northeast part 1b) (urban section) - eastern Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut except southwest
    New York City Metro Area (Northeast part 2) - New York City, northern New Jersey
    Philly area (Northeast part 3) - eastern Pennsylvania, southern New Jersey
    DelMarVa - Delaware, Maryland, District of Columbia, northern Virginia
    Hampton Roads - southeast Virginia
    Appalachia - western/central Pennsylvania, West Virginia, western Virginia, Kentucky, western North Carolina, Tennessee
    slowly-modernizing parts of the South - eastern North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina somehow sandwiched in between, and northern FLorida
    Central Florida / I-4 corridor - central Florida
    South Florida - southern Florida
    Deep South - Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana except New Orleans, Arkansas
    New Orleans - New Orleans
    Republic of Texas - Texas (possibly excluding Austin and El Paso)
    Midwest (or Old Northwest) - (southern) Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri
    Midwest (Lakes section) - (northern) Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota
    Flyover Country (a.k.a. Those Places That Everyone Forgets About Until They're Asked Trivia Questions To Name The States Or It's Election Season And Everyone Is Reminded That They're Red States But Still Forget What They Are) - north Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Iowa
    Wild Wild Open West (a.k.a. Those States With Lots Of National Parks And Beautiful Scenery) - Montana, Wyoming, Idaho (which actually has no national parks except a sliver of Yellowstone), north/central Utah, north/central Colorado
    Southwest - western Texas, Mexico, Arizona, eastern California, Nevada, southern Utah
    California - the west coast of California
    (Pacific) Northwest - Washington, Oregon, (northern California)
    Those States Shown In Insets And Grouped Together For No Other Real Reason - Hawaii, Alaska
    Those Things That Are Not States So Everyone Just Conveniently Pretends They Don't Exist - Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, and sometimes District of Columbia
    And Those Other Things Where No One Lives Anyway, For Reals - U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
  • tinymixtapes is my fave music review site
  • america is such a big weird and varied country

    i live in england

    it's small

    the climate is rain

    only london is important
  • edited 2014-11-15 03:50:21
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    I can often not really make heads nor tails of TinyMixtape reviews.

    The thing about Tinymixtapes you have to keep in mind is that they approach albums like literary theorists approach books, They like to dissect music to try to find what the artist is going for and contextualise it within music and the greater cultural sphere. This sounds pretentious at first blush, but if you accept the premise that music is truly important (whether personally or universally) and that it has the potential to mean more than its surface value, then it doesn't strike me as overreaching to treat it like something worth analysing on that level.

    Which is not to say that they are completely humourless or whatever, but there is an intensity there that is unusual.
  • i like tinymixtapes
  • they approach albums like literary theorists approach books

    this sums up why p well
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    sunn wolf said:

    america is such a big weird and varied country

    i live in england

    it's small

    the climate is rain

    only london is important

    The North is interesting to me, but I wouldn't want to live there. Scotland I could do, however.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    tinymixtapes is my fave music review site

    They are definitely one of the better music review sites out there, if only for how ambitious they are.
  • i live in The North and i find it pretty okay, though my city is too small for my liking now. i feel like ive done everything of any importance in it. but the north is actually nice

    a lot of northern cities, particularly leeds, manchester, sheffield, are reallly vibrant, culture that compares reasonably well to london but not soul crushingly expensive like london is

    also you have the lake district and the yorkshire moors, etc, its reallly beautiful
  • Scotland  is better though but everyone living anywhere in england agrees that scotland is just better.
  • edited 2014-11-15 03:57:30
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    naney said:

    tinymixtapes is my fave music review site

    They are definitely one of the better music review sites out there, if only for how ambitious they are.
    I really hope that the Lazaretto review isn't typical of TMT's work.

    That review still kinda annoys me, even though I agree that Jack White's post-White Stripes career has generally been mediocre at best.
  • this track is perfect but the melody needs to be like 500 percent more melodramatically sad
  • as is the melody has this detached aphex twin vibe that while nice is not what im going for
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    that's not quite what I mean


    like, in terms of defining what Americans are like to people who are not Americans.
    Ehhhhhh...

    Queens, New Orleans, San Francisco, Kansas City and St. Paul seem pretty representative as far as cities go, for better or worse. Not sure about rural areas.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    sunn wolf said:

    i live in The North and i find it pretty okay, though my city is too small for my liking now. i feel like ive done everything of any importance in it. but the north is actually nice

    a lot of northern cities, particularly leeds, manchester, sheffield, are reallly vibrant, culture that compares reasonably well to london but not soul crushingly expensive like london is

    also you have the lake district and the yorkshire moors, etc, its reallly beautiful

    The Lake District seems like a really lovely place, and as you say the culture in places like Sheffield and Manchester is really attractive. But on the other hand... have those cities gotten any less visually bleak in the past thirty years? Because as much as I love me some wabi-sabi...
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”


    naney said:

    tinymixtapes is my fave music review site

    They are definitely one of the better music review sites out there, if only for how ambitious they are.
    I really hope that the Lazaretto review isn't typical of TMT's work.

    That review still kinda annoys me, even though I agree that Jack White's post-White Stripes career has generally been mediocre at best.
    It isn't. They're usually way less caustic and way more analytical.
  • I was playing on The Sims 3 last night, and created a Sim version of Elsa and Anna from Frozen. Killed their parents off, and moved them to a new mansion house, also convientely removing the moodlet about their parents dying.

    I got a bit bored, so I spawned a burglar to arrive. They did, the police came, and the burglar got away. Elsa, despite not have the Evil trait or the Insane trait, then decided that she wanted to befriend the burglar and that her aspiration in life to become Master Thief.

    Go home Elsa, you're drunk.
  • edited 2014-11-15 04:04:11
    We can do anything if we do it together.


    naney said:

    tinymixtapes is my fave music review site

    They are definitely one of the better music review sites out there, if only for how ambitious they are.
    I really hope that the Lazaretto review isn't typical of TMT's work.

    That review still kinda annoys me, even though I agree that Jack White's post-White Stripes career has generally been mediocre at best.
    It isn't. They're usually way less caustic and way more analytical.
    That's pretty reassuring to hear.

    I'd like to be directed to reviews more typical of their output, if possible.

    If not, I'll direct myself to some later next time I'm really bored.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    I really hope that the Lazaretto review isn't typical of TMT's work.


    That review still kinda annoys me, even though I agree that Jack White's post-White Stripes career has generally been mediocre at best.
    It isn't. They're usually way less caustic and way more analytical.
    That's pretty reassuring to hear.

    I'd like to be directed to reviews more typical of their output, if possible.

    If not, I'll direct myself to some later next time I'm really bored.
    How about this one, by the same author. Very different tone.
  • sunn wolf said:

    i live in The North and i find it pretty okay, though my city is too small for my liking now. i feel like ive done everything of any importance in it. but the north is actually nice

    a lot of northern cities, particularly leeds, manchester, sheffield, are reallly vibrant, culture that compares reasonably well to london but not soul crushingly expensive like london is

    also you have the lake district and the yorkshire moors, etc, its reallly beautiful

    The Lake District seems like a really lovely place, and as you say the culture in places like Sheffield and Manchester is really attractive. But on the other hand... have those cities gotten any less visually bleak in the past thirty years? Because as much as I love me some wabi-sabi...
    manchester and leeds, when i have visited, have not been nearly as bleak as their reputations suggest. a lot of areas of manchester have gotten p gentrified, same for some bits of leeds (thanks to all the lawyers with money who live there now)

    i can't speak for sheffield

    this is not to say that some northern cities aren't bleak though. i've been to preston. that really is the desolate north
  • im gonna upload the thing i just did
  • edited 2014-11-15 04:12:52
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^^ Important note: The article linked to by the words "alleged fascist" spends a good five paragraphs poking huge holes in that very accusation, so I think it's facetious.

    ^^ Ahhhh, OK.
  • I can speak for Sheffield.

    It's wet, but fuck me is it green as fuck. It has a tree:human ratio of 4:1. 2 million trees to half a million people. And the city centre is brilliant, especially when it's Market Day.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tools said:

    I can speak for Sheffield.

    It's wet, but fuck me is it green as fuck. It has a tree:human ratio of 4:1. 2 million trees to half a million people. And the city centre is brilliant, especially when it's Market Day.

    That sounds amazing.

    I really want to visit Europe. And I really want to live in an English-speaking area where people don't scream and run away when they hear the words "democratic socialism."
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    I really hope that the Lazaretto review isn't typical of TMT's work.


    That review still kinda annoys me, even though I agree that Jack White's post-White Stripes career has generally been mediocre at best.
    It isn't. They're usually way less caustic and way more analytical.
    That's pretty reassuring to hear.

    I'd like to be directed to reviews more typical of their output, if possible.

    If not, I'll direct myself to some later next time I'm really bored.
    How about this one, by the same author. Very different tone.
    Thanks. I just read through that.

    I've heard very good things about Iceage's recent work. I should probably give it an honest shot at some point.

    Talking about the review itself, it is indeed much better. I appreciate how they actually try to talk about the music itself instead of just ticking off a checklist of what influenced it and talking about the musician and/or the reviewer's public life like Pitchfork usually does. 

    It still has a bit of a "dancing about architecture" feel to it, but that approach can be quite effective in small doses. That's why I actually find myself reading Robert Christgau sometimes, against my better judgement.
  • Tools said:

    I can speak for Sheffield.

    It's wet, but fuck me is it green as fuck. It has a tree:human ratio of 4:1. 2 million trees to half a million people. And the city centre is brilliant, especially when it's Market Day.

    That sounds amazing.

    I really want to visit Europe. And I really want to live in an English-speaking area where people don't scream and run away when they hear the words "democratic socialism."
    From where I live, I get the tram into town if I need to catch a train or just want to do some shopping. The tram goes down a steep hill (Sheffield is also hilly as fuck), and the first panoramic shot of the city with buildings mixed in with tree and hills always takes my breath away.

    Be warned though, the accent can be hard to understand if you don't understand the slang. And you will be called "duck", even my strangers. Or "love".
  • Tools said:

    I can speak for Sheffield.

    It's wet, but fuck me is it green as fuck. It has a tree:human ratio of 4:1. 2 million trees to half a million people. And the city centre is brilliant, especially when it's Market Day.

    That sounds amazing.

    I really want to visit Europe. And I really want to live in an English-speaking area where people don't scream and run away when they hear the words "democratic socialism."
    that's scotland, then. or the north.

    or scandinavia which is pretty much english speaking these days
  • i know like 3 people that live in sheffield now and i have never been and know nothing about it really beyond that it's a very good base to go climbing from
  • it sounds brilliant though
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    :3
  • kill living beings
    hey everything's frosty

    also some fucking dickhead is blasting their car horn outside
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Tools said:

    I was playing on The Sims 3 last night, and created a Sim version of Elsa and Anna from Frozen. Killed their parents off, and moved them to a new mansion house, also convientely removing the moodlet about their parents dying.

    I got a bit bored, so I spawned a burglar to arrive. They did, the police came, and the burglar got away. Elsa, despite not have the Evil trait or the Insane trait, then decided that she wanted to befriend the burglar and that her aspiration in life to become Master Thief.

    Go home Elsa, you're drunk.

    This is the best thing I've read all morning.

    I just got up, but still.
  • edited 2014-11-15 11:00:41
    Yes it is.

    ----

    How are those names in FFXIII pronounced anyway?  Is it "FAHL SEE" and "luh-SEE"?

    or El Cid

    lol there's even a Cid character in most Final Fantasy games hahaha

  • edited 2014-11-15 11:04:06
    what if names really did connect things?

    then you'd need seven billion different names for seven billion different people, or else they would be connected to each other in strange ways on the plane of names

    it's fun to imagine what would happen if there were non-physical planes or realms in existence

    a spiritual realm, a realm of glyphology (like numerology but more generally with letters, numbers, symbols, etc.), a realm of meaning and intentions, etc.

    come to think of it, our thoughts are basically in the realm of meaning and intention -- just that that realm has no connection to other entities in said realm, except via the physical realm

    i guess the realm of meanings and intentions could be called the realm of telepathy too
  • our thoughts and ideas are in the realm of meanings and intentions

    but our emotions are in the realm of spirituality and souls

    some people talk about those weird stories about, say, one twin feeling aware when the other one dies, or something

    i don't seriously believe them as of right now, but if this actually did happen, it might mean there exists a plane of spiritual connection of some sort
  • would fictional settings be subsections of the realm of meaning and ideas?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    would fictional settings be subsections of the realm of meaning and ideas?

    schath.jpg

    No. Fiction is a mere copy of a copy
  • edited 2014-11-15 11:36:55
    unrelated to the above:

    one issue that madomagi does draw attention to -- an issue that's sometimes touched upon tangentially but never really focused on in many stories -- is the notion of doing something differently yet getting the same result.

    usually, the narrative is the opposite -- especially in works with time travel, which are best suited to explore the idea of causality, the usual narrative is that changing the cause does change the effect.

    instead, madomagi chooses a fatalistic perspective -- basically conspiring to somehow (unfortunately this is not shown, but simply declared as is, in a bad case of telling but not showing) change the underlying equations (without changing the parameters?) to cause the same effect to be the result.  (rubber band AI, anyone?)  and thus nothing short of essentially divine intervention to changing both the parameters and equations can change the result.

    sort of a giant "fuck you" to you-know-who.
  • madomagi really should have used less weirdness and wtf imagery and general sense of strangeness in some places.  might have made it easier to relate to the characters and their struggles.

    instead, madomagi chose to practically make the characters into icons or symbols or concepts or something.

    no, you need to be able to relate to that person first, and then you get feels out of understanding them.  rather than declaring the meaning beforehand.  meaning comes organically from the events, not the other way around.

    sure, as a story-writer, you start with meaning and want to come up with events.  but your challenge is to figure out events that produce that meaning, not events that simply exist to hamhandedly justify the meaning.

    well, we could do that.  in that case, the story would be considered an "aesop" or a fable or some other moralistic tale.
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