Rambling about TV history

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  • edited 2016-08-31 16:17:21
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    Okay, the copyright on the back of the box art is NBCUniversal. That clarifies things.

    From what I can tell, NBC owns the copyright, CBS owns the distribution and video rights, and Bonanza Ventures (David Dortort's estate?) owns the character likenesses and remake rights (they also claim to hold the copyright, but that seems weak at best).
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    The fact that NBC didn't buy Republic when fin-syn was repealed speaks to either them or GE being dullards
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    yup...most likely GE, from what I've heard.
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    GE had no business owning NBC as long as they did

    Even the way they slammed the Universal assets together with the NBC ones seems kind of half-hearted
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    I still wish Comcast would be forced to divest NBCUniversal, but they are a better fit for those properties than GE
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    Yup...and after hearing that they sold off Tomorrow and Rankin/Bass in 1974 because they wanted out of the entertainment industry, their timidity makes sense. Hollywood is just not what they're good at.
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    http://articles.philly.com/1994-07-25/entertainment/25844769_1_gene-lothery-cbs-founder-cbs-chairman-laurence-tisch

    CBS mulled over trading WCAU to Fox for WJBK

    I'm not sure why that fell apart but both sides must regret it in some way (though WTXF is better than WWJ)
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    Thought: I remember pretty much all of the classic WB toons I saw when I was little being redshifted, to the point where good prints with the right colors are unrecognizable. I suspect this was a combination of UA being cheap and 16mm Eastmancolor film being cheap, too.
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    Did those prints ever end up on CN?
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    You know, I'm not sure? They might have in the very early days, but I know there were better prints floating around even in the early 1990s.
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    I still think Time Warner should do a three-way demerger, like how AT&T split off Lucent and NCR in 1996.
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    (The "Time" is an artifact title, too, since the only part of the old Time Inc they still own is HBO.)
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    lee4hmz said:

    I still think Time Warner should do a three-way demerger, like how AT&T split off Lucent and NCR in 1996.

    I'd be sad about it because that would sever Hanna-Barbera (which is owned by Warner Bros.) from Cartoon Network (which is owned by Turner)...
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    I do wonder how WB would function on its own...no cable channels or anything.
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    My guess is that it'd probably get bought out. I have no idea who'd be interested in buying, though.
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    The Chinese billionaires who are reportedly on the prowl for every major studio but ultimately never buy any (the closest any Chinese entity has come was when Wanda bought a majority stake in fucking Legendary, a co-financier that actually owns, like, Pacific Rim and nothing else worth owning)
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    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1987-05-19/features/8702170006_1_joan-rivers-rivers-doesn-t-metromedia

    Fox's difficulty with late night talk shows may be the result of "the Metromedia curse"
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    OMFG:



    I've been looking for that logo since I was, like, in kindergarten or first grade. 
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    is that the Golden West that owned KTLA?
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    Yes, it is.
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    Where di this come from, and why:



    All I can think of when I watch this, between the cat-on-the-keyboard music and the talent that would rather be anywhere else, is...


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    Okay, you know how I had the Rainbow Brite theme song from the 1980s in my head? Well, it turns out Hallmark made a new version of it in 2014, and it is so obvious someone saw Friendship is Magic and said "now is the time!"
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    And from what little I can tell about it, it was produced in-house by Hallmark. I can't even tell which animation studio they used, since no one seems to have seen this (it was apparently run on their Feeln network and nowhere else).
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    haha they dredged up It's a Miracle
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    Oh?
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    Feeln did
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    Ah, ok
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    This is one of the most impressive logo pileups I've ever seen: 


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    And as far as I can tell, it's not a fan edit; that show really did go out with seven logos squished together at the end.
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    Seven? Nice.
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    Warner Horizon is the shambling, re-animated corpse of Lorimar Television. Discuss.
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    lee4hmz said:

    Warner Horizon is the shambling, re-animated corpse of Lorimar Television. Discuss.


    why can't they just call it Lorimar?
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    No idea. I guess they didn't think that far ahead?
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    Oh hey, this video has The Mystery Hitachi Commercial in it at about 7:40. The last few notes of that jingle have been stuck in my head for years.
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    You know, I may associate the late 1980s with boredom and ennui (I'm watching a reel on The Fun & Games Channel from late 1989 and I think I remember every commercial :O), but the commercials from back then seems so much less dated than stuff from the mid-late 1970s, early 1980s, or even the mid-to-late 1990s! 

    Of course, I may be biased because I still think 1989 was kind of cool, and because the 1975 and 1976 reels I saw had lots of ads for new cars—and for car service, which makes sense if you're aware of what junk 1970s American cars were.
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    wasn't the American auto industry pretty bad from the '70s to the '90s?

    also, speaking of which, my Michigander mom tells me that crack cocaine basically hollowed out Detroit in the '80s
  • edited 2016-12-11 02:38:44
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    yup

    While it was too late to save Detroit itself ("cost savings"—read that as "attempts to break the UAW by moving the factories to right-to-work states in the South"—and globalization ruined that by the mid-1990s), the US auto industry actually stopped and took a moment to learn from what Europe and Japan and Korea were doing sometime in the 2000s. (Ford was headed down that path as early as the 1980s, but that really only went as far as the Escort until much later; GM made a few half-hearted attempts, like their joint venture with Toyota, but they learned little and had a bankruptcy scare around 1990; Chrysler...lol, Chrysler.)
  • edited 2016-12-11 02:42:28
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    chrysler is lol because they had the know-how, but no one wanted to buy their cars. AMC was in the same boat, and had the extra problems of outdated tooling, worn-out factories, and a bunch of baggage related to interlocking deals with the rest of Detroit (they used a lot of GM and Ford parts because they couldn't make their own) and an aborted alliance with Renault. I'm still not sure how they managed to turn it around, however briefly, in the 1990s, but the Caravan was the big cash cow, and I guess they were hoping the same for Jeep.
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    I feel like Detroit and other industry-reliant cities in that region have a lot of environmental factors against them

    There are people who have been lured to the Midwest by cheap housing, but a lot of Rust Belt cities seem to suffer from a perception that there's no jobs there, and that there's a lot of people who find the winters unbearable

    (Cleveland and Pittsburgh seem to have rebounded)
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    also I admit, I don't quite know what separated Europe and Japan and Korea from the US aside from better build quality
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    I have to wonder if prejudice factors into it, too, and not just about the weather. People hear about crime and such in Detroit and keep thinking nothing short of a 1960s-style "urban renewal" project (razing the ghetto, as it were) will save it. :P
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    We're on the same page! People going "lol Detroit" always makes me uncomfortable because I feel like there's a lot of unspoken racism going on there

    same thing with Chicago's south side
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    In Japan, at least, it was indeed a commitment to better build quality. Back in the day, people used to talk about "Friday cars", cars with corners cut here and there by a line worker who was anxious to get to happy hour quicker, whereas Japanese cars had more industrial discipline (based on a philosophy thought up by an American, in fact), and European cars had the vaunted German precision going for them. (British cars, of course, were another story, and they reportedly only got worse once British Leyland failed.)
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    This is a bit of fridge logic/loopy thinking, but indeed, I wonder if one of the unspoken goals of the Interstate system, especially in the cities, was to obliterate historically non-white neighborhoods and open them up to development on suburban developers' terms. 

    I'm thinking of that because that's a big reason why DC doesn't have an intricate freeway system. People saw what having 95 running right through the middle of town would do to a place that was already hurting after MLK was killed, and they saw to it that it wouldn't happen.
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    I'm watching a reel of old TV show openings from 1962, and I have to wonder if TV went through the same sort of obsession with goofiness and trend-riding that music did around the same time (thinking of that Todd episode where he was talking about "between Elvis joining the Army and Beatlemania").
  • edited 2017-01-03 00:04:27
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    Hmm. This disc full of old commercial breaks has an ad for cheap costume jewelry

    The production values are Pretty Bad (they're using chromakey and what for all the world looks like digital zoom), and I have to wonder what those "faux diamonds" and "14K gold layered" really are. (Best guesses: Cubic zirconia or possibly even borosilicate glass for the "diamonds"—these shysters aren't going to be using something nice like lead or zinc crystal—and copper or brass with super-cheap gold flash for the chains and ring bodies.)

    They were selling 17 pieces of cheap jewelry for $17 US in 1985, about $38 now, so I'm not expecting anything better than brass or maybe stainless for the base metal.
  • edited 2017-01-03 00:54:14
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    Dig the completely un-Greeked Big Gulp and Lucerne milk in the 1984 ad...

    DC was (and is) one of the few places outside L.A. to have both Safeway and 7-Eleven, so that's immediately eye-catching for me. (Oh, and if you check the comments, Harry Marks saw the video!)
  • edited 2017-01-03 00:58:07
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    oh hey I've been looking for this Jovan Musk commercial for a while now. And yes, I was going "tunak tunak tun" over that beat.
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