the more Calvin and Hobbes that get posted here the more smug it seems and then i feel sad because everyone else seems to find it so witty and charming.
Here's one C&H strip I don't think is smug at all:
O, then, I see Queen Mab hath been with you. She is the fairies' midwife, and she comes In shape no bigger than an agate-stone On the fore-finger of an alderman, Drawn with a team of little atomies Athwart men's noses as they lie asleep; Her wagon-spokes made of long spinners' legs, The cover of the wings of grasshoppers, The traces of the smallest spider's web, The collars of the moonshine's watery beams, Her whip of cricket's bone, the lash of film, Her wagoner a small grey-coated gnat, Not so big as a round little worm Prick'd from the lazy finger of a maid; Her chariot is an empty hazel-nut Made by the joiner squirrel or old grub, Time out o' mind the fairies' coachmakers. And in this state she gallops night by night Through lovers' brains, and then they dream of love; O'er courtiers' knees, that dream on court'sies straight, O'er lawyers' fingers, who straight dream on fees, O'er ladies ' lips, who straight on kisses dream, Which oft the angry Mab with blisters plagues, Because their breaths with sweetmeats tainted are: Sometime she gallops o'er a courtier's nose, And then dreams he of smelling out a suit; And sometime comes she with a tithe-pig's tail Tickling a parson's nose as a' lies asleep, Then dreams, he of another benefice: Sometime she driveth o'er a soldier's neck, And then dreams he of cutting foreign throats, Of breaches, ambuscadoes, Spanish blades, Of healths five-fathom deep; and then anon Drums in his ear, at which he starts and wakes, And being thus frighted swears a prayer or two And sleeps again. This is that very Mab That plats the manes of horses in the night, And bakes the elflocks in foul sluttish hairs, Which once untangled, much misfortune bodes: This is the hag, when maids lie on their backs, That presses them and learns them first to bear, Making them women of good carriage
I once saw an insight wanker respond to a tweet about how plain English Shakespeare proves the importance of poetry in language by saying "By your logic, shouldn't I prefer lossless mp3 files?" or something like that.
And I remember that because it was one of the most impressively thoughtless and tone deaf things I had ever heard
anyways, as i mentioned on tumblr, there is something about this kind of sentiment that i almost agree with, but the way that most people (including Bill here) articulate it seems deeply flawed
anyways, as i mentioned on tumblr, there is something about this kind of sentiment that i almost agree with, but the way that most people (including Bill here) articulate it seems deeply flawed
anyways, as i mentioned on tumblr, there is something about this kind of sentiment that i almost agree with, but the way that most people (including Bill here) articulate it seems deeply flawed
anyways, as i mentioned on tumblr, there is something about this kind of sentiment that i almost agree with, but the way that most people (including Bill here) articulate it seems deeply flawed
I ever tell you guys about the time my stepdad moved out and took all the comic anthologies he had bought for me as birthday gifts over the years with him? Hahahaha.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
i didn't bring this up before because it feels like . . . i dunno, like i'm complaining about Fred Rogers or something like that, the way people talk about those cartoons
I ever tell you guys about the time my stepdad moved out and took all the comic anthologies he had bought for me as birthday gifts over the years with him? Hahahaha.
i didn't bring this up before because it feels like . . . i dunno, like i'm complaining about Fred Rogers or something like that, the way people talk about those cartoons
i feel uncomfortable, my opinions are bad
Looks to be, to me, not much more than you having differing tastes and that the jokes you're not fond of might be common around here, so you don't get proper representation.
Even so, doubt anyone here would mind if it ended up being a different strokes for different folks deal.
i didn't bring this up before because it feels like . . . i dunno, like i'm complaining about Fred Rogers or something like that, the way people talk about those cartoons
i feel uncomfortable, my opinions are bad
no they're not
if you didn't read them as a kid (and if I may make a small assumption, I don't think many American newspaper strips are popular in the UK) you don't have the nostalgia associated with them, so you're seeing them as an adult for the first time and make different judgments about them that are not necessarily better or worse.
Honestly, again people, we're doing this thing where someone doesn't like A Thing we have decided is important to us and then jumping on them for it. Let Tachyon not like C&H.
i should note there've been plenty of C&H i liked that got posted here, i just kinda, idk, assume that people post the strips here because they're especially good ones, so the ones i didn't like i took as more representative of the tone than they maybe are
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Honestly, again people, we're doing this thing where someone doesn't like A Thing we have decided is important to us and then jumping on them for it. Let Tachyon not like C&H.
Uh...I don't think any of us were doing that, though? Section and I agreed that the later C&H strips got a bit on the preachy side, even...
i didn't bring this up before because it feels like . . . i dunno, like i'm complaining about Fred Rogers or something like that, the way people talk about those cartoons
i feel uncomfortable, my opinions are bad
no they're not
if you didn't read them as a kid (and if I may make a small assumption, I don't think many American newspaper strips are popular in the UK) you don't have the nostalgia associated with them, so you're seeing them as an adult for the first time and make different judgments about them that are not necessarily better or worse.
Honestly, again people, we're doing this thing where someone doesn't like A Thing we have decided is important to us and then jumping on them for it. Let Tachyon not like C&H.
They liked that one strip that I linked, and I still intend on linking them others that they might like.
Honestly, again people, we're doing this thing where someone doesn't like A Thing we have decided is important to us and then jumping on them for it. Let Tachyon not like C&H.
you... sure about that?
like, the strongest thing stated has been me saying "I don't find these strips preachy", and for the most part the discussion hasn't even been directed at Tach
fwiw i didn't feel like anyone was seriously having a go, it's fine
and i think you may be right, Jane, about the nostalgia, since i never saw those strips as a kid
i read some Garfield, some BC, quite a lot of Peanuts and quite a lot of The Far Side, but i don't think i ever even heard of C&H before encountering fans online
i should note there've been plenty of C&H i liked that got posted here, i just kinda, idk, assume that people post the strips here because they're especially good ones, so the ones i didn't like i took as more representative of the tone than they maybe are
I honestly wouldn't know. I never read them as a child, and have read them very randomly as an adult. Enough to get an idea, just not speak on it like Centie would.
Generally I assume they're posted as a referential joke or touching on something similar, rather than something to do with quality.
Lots of game dev types started out that way. Brendon Chung did a bunch of quake levels or whatever before moving to his c urrent Block-Based Storyish Games thing
McGee's Alice strikes me as a series that holds a lot of fond memories for me, but which i probably wouldn't like as much if i discovered it for the first time now
at this point i'm pretty definitely of the mind that the first is the better game in every respect, except the visuals
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She is the fairies' midwife, and she comes
In shape no bigger than an agate-stone
On the fore-finger of an alderman,
Drawn with a team of little atomies
Athwart men's noses as they lie asleep;
Her wagon-spokes made of long spinners' legs,
The cover of the wings of grasshoppers,
The traces of the smallest spider's web,
The collars of the moonshine's watery beams,
Her whip of cricket's bone, the lash of film,
Her wagoner a small grey-coated gnat,
Not so big as a round little worm
Prick'd from the lazy finger of a maid;
Her chariot is an empty hazel-nut
Made by the joiner squirrel or old grub,
Time out o' mind the fairies' coachmakers.
And in this state she gallops night by night
Through lovers' brains, and then they dream of love;
O'er courtiers' knees, that dream on court'sies straight,
O'er lawyers' fingers, who straight dream on fees,
O'er ladies ' lips, who straight on kisses dream,
Which oft the angry Mab with blisters plagues,
Because their breaths with sweetmeats tainted are:
Sometime she gallops o'er a courtier's nose,
And then dreams he of smelling out a suit;
And sometime comes she with a tithe-pig's tail
Tickling a parson's nose as a' lies asleep,
Then dreams, he of another benefice:
Sometime she driveth o'er a soldier's neck,
And then dreams he of cutting foreign throats,
Of breaches, ambuscadoes, Spanish blades,
Of healths five-fathom deep; and then anon
Drums in his ear, at which he starts and wakes,
And being thus frighted swears a prayer or two
And sleeps again. This is that very Mab
That plats the manes of horses in the night,
And bakes the elflocks in foul sluttish hairs,
Which once untangled, much misfortune bodes:
This is the hag, when maids lie on their backs,
That presses them and learns them first to bear,
Making them women of good carriage
it's rather painful, but not a bad strip in the slightest
If I do, I'll probably post them in the Newspaper Comics thread and @ you, if that's okay.
FWIW, I don't disagree that the strip did get a bit preachy in its later years, and that it was a good thing Watterson pulled the plug when he did.
also all those ones about bubblegum fanzines
i complain about negativity and i'm as bad as the worst
^^^^ I admit that I like those strips, but can understand why you don't.
i didn't bring this up before because it feels like . . . i dunno, like i'm complaining about Fred Rogers or something like that, the way people talk about those cartoons
i feel uncomfortable, my opinions are bad
i should note there've been plenty of C&H i liked that got posted here, i just kinda, idk, assume that people post the strips here because they're especially good ones, so the ones i didn't like i took as more representative of the tone than they maybe are
If they don't, I won't argue it further.
Is that okay?
and i think you may be right, Jane, about the nostalgia, since i never saw those strips as a kid
i read some Garfield, some BC, quite a lot of Peanuts and quite a lot of The Far Side, but i don't think i ever even heard of C&H before encountering fans online
but since i don't generally read SA and don't believe i've ever read them talking about anime, i'm not sure where i get that impression
the first McGee's Alice was made using the Quake III Arena engine
Lots of game dev types started out that way. Brendon Chung did a bunch of quake levels or whatever before moving to his c urrent Block-Based Storyish Games thing
at this point i'm pretty definitely of the mind that the first is the better game in every respect, except the visuals
but the sequel is incredibly pretty
like this constant high-pitched whine