The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the one thing I still really like about Tolkien's stuff is that it is very very timey
  • kill living beings
    let me introduce you to my closed spacelike curve
  • The whole point (well, one of them) of The Hobbit is that Bilbo's worth doesn't lie in his sword but in his mind and heart. And then they have him stab the disc one final boss because god forbid we have a blockbuster where the lead doesn't attack anybody
  • If they wanted proper blockbuster fare, they'd probably do better with the Silmarillion. Probably. Haven't actually read it.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Silmarillion is abstract as hell
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    The Silm is unfilmable, although it does have its high points
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    The Silm is unfilmable, although it does have its high points

    That's what they said about naked lunch!
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    and it was true, the film of Naked Lunch really isn't an adaptation of the book

    or so I heard
  • kill living beings
    alibaba
  • edited 2014-09-19 22:17:27

    If they wanted proper blockbuster fare, they'd probably do better with the Silmarillion. Probably. Haven't actually read it.

    You should read it. I really enjoy it, personally.
  • sometimes I wonder if I should watch the LOTR movies, since I used to really like the books

    I liked them well enough back in the day. Watching the movies got me interested in LoTR enough to read the books.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Main thing that's kept me from watching them is the length.

    I can't really even sit through a 2-hour movie, let alone one that's...I dunno, 10 hours or whatever


  • This song has so much nostalgia too me.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.

    Tolkien didn't write no golden dwarf explosions.

    It's like they didn't even read the book.

    Adaption movies should have literary analysts to smack the director whenever they're violating the book's basic themes.

    In that case, the LoTR movies would be 80% "Look at the scenery, isn't it pretty scenery, ooo, scenery!"
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Tolkien's fondness for detailed scenery is exaggerated, slightly
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    Tolkien didn't write no golden dwarf explosions.

    It's like they didn't even read the book.

    Adaption movies should have literary analysts to smack the director whenever they're violating the book's basic themes.

    In that case, the LoTR movies would be 80% "Look at the scenery, isn't it pretty scenery, ooo, scenery!"
    And, what, exactly, would be not-incredible about that?

    Tolkien's fondness for detailed scenery is exaggerated, slightly

    But only slightly, methinks.  There is a lot of scenery stuff.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Adaption movies should have literary analysts to smack the director whenever they're violating the book's basic themes.

    That assumes that the literary analysts actually know what they're talking about and/or understand how making a movie actually works. Given the abundance of self-obfuscating deconstructionist "this allegory is full of logical inconsistencies!" types out there, I find that doubtful.
  • edited 2014-09-19 23:25:22
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I mean there's a reason why his favorite characters are trees.

    "Pages and pages" of scenery isn't quite right, but there's a lot. Which I don't mind, I like getting lost there.

    I'm all for like, adaptions taking the liberties they need. But why would you make The Hobbit a big dumb trilogy? I liked The Hobbit because it was relatively withdrawn and small.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The thing is that the movies already do all that scenery porno justice. It's just all in single big sweeping shots instead of pages upon pages of "TREEEEEEEES!"
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    big dumb movies are Hollywood's specialty
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    They are, and that's... unfortunate, really. I like smart movies. There should be more of them.
  • Okay, so we agree that the Hobbit trilogy shouldn't be a trilogy. Good, good.

    I'll cede to literary analysts being a bad idea if we agree that Bilbo's defining hero moment shouldn't be stabbing a guy in the chest.
  • kill living beings
    whoa, whoa, whoa, telomerase is a reverse transcriptase
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Billboard Haggis
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Okay, so we agree that the Hobbit trilogy shouldn't be a trilogy. Good, good.

    I'll cede to literary analysts being a bad idea if we agree that Bilbo's defining hero moment shouldn't be stabbing a guy in the chest.

    Yeah, all agreed.
  • edited 2014-09-20 00:22:16
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Well, gee, what am I supposed to do about the Hobbit movies being an unnecessary three installments? It's not like I was in charge of WB before July :P
  • Two multigrain nut pancakes topped with fresh sliced banana and chopped
    walnuts. With two eggs and choice of two applewood smoked bacon strips
    or two sausage links.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I love pancakes, but due to allergies must regard the use of nuts as an abomination
  • Anonus said:

    Well, gee, what am I supposed to do about the Hobbit movies being an unnecessary three installments? It's not like I was in charge of WB before July :P

    make a 120-minute supercut of all three movies upon the series's conclusion and release that alongside the original versions
  • kill living beings
    nitrominus
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    context-sensitive
  • Man, you'd have to be hella picky to complain about the LotR movies being scenery-y because they were damn good at it.

    Even then it's a really weird complaint to make. Even as a simple observation, making it into "look at this pretty thing!" is pretty reductive.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I like scenery porn anyway
  • edited 2014-09-20 01:15:58
    It's literally complaining about something worked into the tissue of the story itself; without the scenery and the big sweeping shots, the movie would feel aimless and without a sense of place. The "look at this pretty thing" moments served a direct function as an anchor to the plot and did so to good effect! To complain about it or indicate it's in any way risible just strikes me as needless grasping for tangible details.
  • O Superman.

    O judge.

    O Mom and Dad.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    Insert clip of Jodorowsky talking about his job to rape Dune

    What?

    I do know he was slated to direct with Dali on set design and the studio called it off because it would be six hours long and cost a zillion bucks.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    O Superman.

    O judge.

    O Mom and Dad.

    One of my friends uses the phone bit from that song as his answering machine message.
  • edited 2014-09-20 01:19:43

    you better get ready.
    Ready to go.
    You can come as you are, but pay as you go.

    And I said:
    OK. Who is this really?
    And the voice said:
    This is the hand, the hand that takes. This is the
    hand, the hand that takes.
    This is the hand, the hand that takes.
    Here come the planes.
    They're American planes.
    Made in America.
    Smoking or non-smoking?
    And the voice said:
    Neither snow nor rain nor gloom
    of night shall stay these couriers from the swift
    completion of their appointed rounds.
    'Cause when love is gone, there's always justice.
    And when justice is gone, there's always force.
    And when force is gone, there's always Mom.

    Hi Mom!

    So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
    So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
    In your automatic arms.
    Your electronic arms.
    In your arms.
    So hold me, Mom, in your long arms.
    Your petrochemical arms.
    Your military arms.
    In your electronic arms.
  • Kexruct said:

    It's literally complaining about something worked into the tissue of the story itself; without the scenery and the big sweeping shots, the movie would feel aimless and without a sense of place. The "look at this pretty thing" moments served a direct function as an anchor to the plot and did so to good effect! To complain about it or indicate it's in any way risible just strikes me as needless grasping for tangible details.

    "There he goes, taking things too seriously again."

    I know, I just wanted to say my piece.
  • the lotr movies were ok

    but they didn't really grab me
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    reasons to pick something up
  • LWLW
    edited 2014-09-20 01:37:42

    reasons to pick something up

    • You dropped it on the ground.
    • Somebody else dropped it and you want to be helpful.
    • You care about the environment and do not want to see litter everywhere.
    • You believe in some superstition about shiny pennies and luck.
    • You have nothing better to do.


  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I thought that they were really fun, but the main protagonists were way less interesting than the supporting cast. I mean, none of the performances were bad, but I was way more invested in Eowyn and Merry taking down the Witch-King than Frodo or Aragorn or whoever.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    "But I am no man."

    *shank*

    YES.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    LW said:


    reasons to pick something up

    • You dropped it on the ground.
    • Somebody else dropped it and you want to be helpful.
    • You care about the environment and do not want to see litter everywhere.
    • You believe in some superstition about shiny pennies and luck.
    • You have nothing better to do.


    I was thinking in more of a video game context, but thanks
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    But seriously, that was one of my favourite bits along with anything with the Dead Men of Dunharrow.
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