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  • It has a bar because it has no fraction display.

    For example, if it displayed 123/170 then the bar would be redundant.
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    Whatever you do, do not (and I mean absolutely do not) show only the current HP without the Max HP

    It's infuriating and terrible
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Noted.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2015-03-31 00:08:38
    You don't always need the max HP, at least not on an overview bar.  Keep it around in a detail frame for sure.

    Lacking both max HP AND some kind of visual indicator of the current fraction, yeah that's bad.

    Trails in the Sky for instance only shows the current value on top of the bar when in combat.  You don't really have much use for the max value since your MP is expected to last a good while, and you rarely need to completely top off HP instead of just bouncing it up to within a couple hundred of the top (and when you do, it's usually from the menu where you can see the max, or in a battle close enough that overhealing and efficiency is not your biggest concern).
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Noted.
  • On the Walking Dead, Season 2:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20140812034659/http://lillycaul.tumblr.com/post/94359921967/on-telltale-games-ableist-treatment-of-sarah



    Part of me almost wants to laugh, because this totally explains my earlier complaint about Sarah's death not having any consequences for Luke or Jane. Only part though. Most of me's actually horrified by this.
  • So, you decided to give one of the most horrifyingly drawn-out deaths in the series to a girl who's only crime is not being suited for the end of civilization. Y'know, like most young people in America are. 

    Hell, when you definitively killed Ben Paul, who accidentally got a small child killed and endangered everyone else around him constantly, you gave him a mercy kill. Didn't let him die screaming in pain. Let me repeat that: you punished an innocent girl worse than a guy who killed 6 people through sheer stupidity.

    And to that end, you tore up a good part of your ending. You basically truncated the plotline concerning her relationship with Clementine. Her death had no consequences for Luke or Jane (besides a brief scene where Kenny yells at Luke, not for killing Sarah, but for endangering the baby), whose culpability is ignored in favor of joking about their impromptu affair. You claim that every action has consequences, Telltale. It doesn't work unless everybody's actions have consequences. You can't have Luke angsting about how everyone got killed under his leadership and then ignore that for some cheap innuendo. 

    This isn't just needlessly cruel torment of a character. This is bad storytelling. And that's the one thing you're supposed to be good at, Telltale. Your action bits are glorified cutscenes with the occasional quick time event; your point-click adventure bits get pared down more and more every game. Storytelling is the one thing that we still trust you to do, even after The Wolf Among Us. So don't you dare eff up the one thing you can still do consistently just to satisfy a few a-holes who want to torture a character. That's what fanfiction is for. 
  • it's a video game, idk what else could have been expected
  • edited 2015-04-04 22:14:02

    holy shit this interview is hilarious 50/10
  • naney said:

    it's a video game, idk what else could have been expected

    Excuse me for occasionally having more faith in the video game community than one should.

    Telltale? Making bad games?


    Nooooo.
    I'm well-aware that Telltale can be terrible at its job. The sloppy ending of The Wolf Among Us is evidence enough. I just prefer that to be due to incompetence or negligence rather than vitriol.

    ...which game are you referring to, specifically.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    video games telling stories? lolz

    this is all the story you need:

    image
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    video games telling stories? lolz

    this is all the story you need:

    image

    The Year is 2015. The planet
    Sierra is gripped by fear and is 
    in the midst of a deep crisis.

    The evil terrorist group, Scarlet
    are still a commanding force.
    They have the power to prevent
    humans travelling to and from the
    outside universe.

    Scarlet's members consist of
    artificial beings creates using
    super genetic engineering by the
    Sierrans. Scarlet is an 
    underground organization that has
    been secretly formed with the
    express intention of destroying
    the human race.

    In addition to their high level
    of intelligence and awesome
    strength, Scarlet's members are
    equipped with parasitic abilities
    that allow them to live within
    human beings, animals and 
    machinery. Equipped with these
    abilities they conquered the
    Sierrans and stand on the brink
    of obtaining supremacy over
    Sierra

    Epsilon-Eagle, the boss of the
    Scarlet group, is the intended
    target of an assassination 
    attempt being planned by
    Sierrans. A special combat group,
    capable of using super powers,
    was secretly dispatched to carry 
    out this mission.

    Scarlet unleashed a sudden attack 
    on epsilon with their super
    powers. Epsilon, seriously 
    damaged by the attack, was thrown
    into the time-space continuum
    which had been activated by
    Scarlet's use of super powers.

    With Epsilon seemingly gone 
    forever, Xi-Tiger' took control of
    Scarlet amidst the resulting
    confusion. With Xi-Tiger now in
    charge, the terrorist attacks
    against Sierrans became more 
    frequent and brutal.

    With this increase in attacks
    towards Sierrans, Xi-Tiger soon
    became unpopular amongst Scarlet
    members. As a result, the demands
    for the re-instatement of Epsilon
    as the leader of the Scarlet
    group became stronger.

    Having been isolated from the 
    other Scarlet members, Xi-Tiger
    Decided to assassinate Epsilon.
    In an attempt to activate the
    Time-space continuum, Xi-Tiger
    ordered an attack on the
    Sierrans' research laboratory,
    where children with super powers
    were behind held hostage having
    been kidnapped.

    Xi-Tiger sensed something was 
    wrong. He could feel the presence 
    of Epsilon in one of the boys.
    However, he was unsure because he
    couldn't pinpoint the evil from
    Epsilon, who had entered the
    boy's body and was now living as
    a parasite inside of him. In an
    attempt to get Epsilon out of the
    Boy's Body, Xi-Tiger took a young
    girl hostage and threatened to
    kill her unless Epsilon released
    the boy. 

    The boy flew into a rage and
    morphed his body into Epsilon

    Suddenly, where the boy had been 
    standing, now stood a 'Birdman'
    with steel wings.

    Epsilon's mind was in conflict
    as a battle between it's real 
    nature, human justice, and the
    foreign force raged on.

    Xi-Tiger could sense an unknown
    power within Epsilon, and fled
    immediately having killed the
    girl first.

    ---Epsilon---
    'Xi-Tiger, I will never let you
    get Away.'

    Epsilon is not the only creature 
    of his kind. Somehow Another 
    'Birdman' with a similar body had
    been created. Although their
    bodies were identical, their
    minds were very different.
    Unknown to everybody, the mind of
    the Mysterious new 'birdman' was 
    filled with an evil ambition

    He also flew off in search of 
    Xi-Tiger..............

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    see, that's approaching "novel with game attached" territory.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    see, that's approaching "novel with game attached" territory.

    None of this comes up in the actual game, which is primarily about shooting giant alien bosses with laser guns.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    In all fairness, would Ronald Reagan being indeterminately held by ninjas and unable to be president be such a bad thing?
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    not really.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    That's why they're bad dudes, not good ones.
  • naney said:

    it's a video game, idk what else could have been expected

    Excuse me for occasionally having more faith in the video game community than one should.

    Telltale? Making bad games?


    Nooooo.
    I'm well-aware that Telltale can be terrible at its job. The sloppy ending of The Wolf Among Us is evidence enough. I just prefer that to be due to incompetence or negligence rather than vitriol.

    ...which game are you referring to, specifically.
    Yes.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    In a re-release it was changed to George H.W. Bush.

    That would be bad, because it would mean President Quayle.
  • Anyway Ori & The Blind Forest is the most interesting metroidvania I've played maybe ever.

    So that's cool.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    what's interesting about it
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    In Mario 2, I always assumed Subcon was a real shared dream universe, and Mario and his friends really saved it, even if they did do it in astral projection form.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    People sometimes get angry about us getting a reskinned Doki Doki Panic instead of the real Super Mario Bros 2, but what they forget is that Doki Doki Panic was a way better game than Super Mario Bros 2
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    can't argue with that.

    also, shared dream universes are cool.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Counterpoint, Doki Doki Panic was terrible.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Counterpoint, Doki Doki Panic was terrible.

    Counterpoint, your mom is terrible.
  • what's interesting about it

    Very interesting art style and I actually care about the story

    also the main character is this weird cat-monkey-imp thing instead of a beefy dude with a sword.

    Also your main weapon is like weird little light bolt things.

    a more comprehensive review is here. Polygon are good at what they do.
  • naney said:

    it's a video game, idk what else could have been expected

    Excuse me for occasionally having more faith in the video game community than one should.

    Telltale? Making bad games?


    Nooooo.
    I'm well-aware that Telltale can be terrible at its job. The sloppy ending of The Wolf Among Us is evidence enough. I just prefer that to be due to incompetence or negligence rather than vitriol.

    ...which game are you referring to, specifically.
    Yes.
    But which yes.
  • naney said:

    it's a video game, idk what else could have been expected

    Excuse me for occasionally having more faith in the video game community than one should.

    Telltale? Making bad games?


    Nooooo.
    I'm well-aware that Telltale can be terrible at its job. The sloppy ending of The Wolf Among Us is evidence enough. I just prefer that to be due to incompetence or negligence rather than vitriol.

    ...which game are you referring to, specifically.
    Yes.
    But which yes.
    I have rarely played Telltale's games but I've seen enough of them played to know that their entire design philosophy (both in terms of gameplay and storytelling) are very far from what I want out of a game of any sort.
  • I think they did a decent job with Walking Dead Season 1, but Walking Dead Season 2 slips up a bit and The Wolf Among Us is kind of a mess. 
  • Just finished Trails in the Sky.

    Dat ending...  D:

    D:
  • edited 2015-04-05 07:23:04
    Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Panurge said:

    see, that's approaching "novel with game attached" territory.

    None of this comes up in the actual game, which is primarily about shooting giant alien bosses with laser guns.
    #treasuregame
  • lol the store page description of Waking Mars spoils more than does my review
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    imageimageimage
    It's nearly over. Just 4 more floors to go.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    image

    And that's a wrap. Beat the game with two of the squishiest classes available, because why the hell not.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Etrian Odyssey Untold, a remake of the first Etrian Odyssey game.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Atari Jaguar

  • I've spared the internet my nerdery because of how seemingly untimely it is, but I replayed the Fancy Pants games again and bruh

    they're still good as hell

    (though the older games haven't aged quite as well because of the refinements that Brad made to the gameplay after the second one)
  • edited 2015-04-07 00:04:46
    image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.

    what is it for?

    3DS.

    The first 3 games are on DS, but the first 2 are... kinda dated by today's standards. Which is kinda odd, considering they came out in 2007 and 2008.
  • Weren't they intended to feel very much like old dungeon crawlers, by design?  Even down to having to draw one's own maps.
  • edited 2015-04-07 01:05:17
    image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Yes, but even still, they had some weird design decisions. Like not being able to sidestep in the first game (which thankfully they added in the second).
  • Ah.

    I only played down to like dungeon level 2 on the first one.  Far enough to meet the rapgelope.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Panurge said:

    Atari Jaguar


    this is probably just me but I find Atari's "Do the Math" advertising shtick for the Jaguar totally hilarious.
  • BeeBee
    edited 2015-04-07 17:26:01
    I still boggle over how the Jaguar was supposedly 64 bits but still looked choppier than PS1 or even some of the better SNES games.

    Also how that piece of chalk squeaks as if it were a dry erase marker.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Atari was so far behind at that point that pretty much nothing would have helped. They actually would have done better to wait out the 1990s and come back when those damn little 20-in-1 game joysticks were popular.
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