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  • Odradek said:

    Margaritaville is a good song.

    It is. I'm fonder of some of his slightly earlier work though ("A Pirate Looks at 40", for instance). Though his very first album is both a country album and pretty bad.

    Not to dogpile on you, Mo, but I'm not sure what "rocking for rocking's sake" even means. I've honestly never encountered that phrase before.

    I don't know a better way to phrase it but there's a certain kind of rock song that just comes across--to me, anyway--as very like, self-absorbed.

    Like the song only exists to show off how good at guitar-playing the frontman is, or something similar.

    It's totally hypocritical because there are totally rappers like that too (anyone who's ever been called a "technique rapper" for instance. Tech N9ne is an example.), but I like technical showmanship in hip-hop more than I do in rock I suppose.
    Ah. Gotcha.

    I can definitely understand why some songs like that can be annoying, though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very fond of a few of those kinds of songs (e.g. Van Halen's "Eruption"). Never really thought of The White Stripes music as "rocking for rocking's sake", but I admittedly haven't listened to much of their music.
    It's just really riff heavy and I feel like the riffs are the entire point, and I can't get into that most of the time.

    This is without delving into the issue of whether or not Jack White's a misogynist or otherwise a lunkhead in some fashion, I'm talking strictly about his music here.
  • Odradek said:

    I also like Tech N9ne. 

    I like "Worldwide Choppers".
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    The only "guy playing a guitar and he is literally just playing a guitar and there's nothing else" song I like is Mood for a Day which is on a flamenco guitar and might not count.

    Speaking of which, if you are interested in getting into Yes, Fragile is a good introduction, but there is no point to any of the non-long songs except for Mood For A Day so you can safely skip them.
  • It's just really riff heavy and I feel like the riffs are the entire point, and I can't get into that most of the time.

    This is without delving into the issue of whether or not Jack White's a misogynist or otherwise a lunkhead in some fashion, I'm talking strictly about his music here.

    Fair enough. Very much a fan of riff heavy music personally, but I can definitely understand that it would not be appealing to everyone.
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    fun!

    i rather like the chorus myself
  • I actually felt Aesop's verse was the weakest on the track, which isn't something I like saying about my favorite rapper

    that said if this is the song he's been tweeting about for weeks it was recorded in one day in a hotel in Colorado, so it makes some sense that it's not the best thing he's ever done.
  • well, given that it is not his best and that the other rappers are quite good it's not terribly surprising.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    The only "guy playing a guitar and he is literally just playing a guitar and there's nothing else" song I like is Mood for a Day which is on a flamenco guitar and might not count.

    Look up James Blackshaw. Your opinions may change. But some of his work is literally just all him on the guitar, and vocals are nearly non-extant in his work, so... maybe we're talking about different things.
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    I hope nobody minds me lagging behind the conversation a little bit, but i was thinking about the white stripes, and, well, is it just me, or are seven nation army and icky thump actually among their rockier tracks?

    because when i think of the white stripes mostly i don't think of them as being especially rocky, more bluesy really, and those tracks are pretty heavy by their standards imo
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    You are not wrong.

    As an aside, you should listen to Alternative TV's "Still Life" and "Lost in Room". I think that you would enjoy them.
  • I should clarify it's been literal years since I last listened to either Icky Thump or Seven Nation Army, I might not like them now.
  • edited 2014-06-24 16:12:41
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Not that anybody cares, but in addition to the tracks Mo mentioned, I also quite like Blue Orchid.

    I tend to like clever, well-done pop-structured music, and those songs (and some other White Stripes songs) certainly fit that bill for me.
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    You are not wrong.


    As an aside, you should listen to Alternative TV's "Still Life" and "Lost in Room". I think that you would enjoy them.
    I enjoyed them both very much, thank you.
  • Tachyon said:

    like for a very long period of time in my teens my concerns when listening to a song went sort of like

    1 is it melodic
    2 is the riff heavy
    3 is there a guitar solo, and is it a good guitar solo

    and that was pretty much it, if it ticked all those boxes that was enough

    if you still like songs in this vein you should check out The Human Abstract's Digital Veil
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    @MetaFour

    Do you have any recomandation for me.

    Thanks
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    You are not wrong.


    As an aside, you should listen to Alternative TV's "Still Life" and "Lost in Room". I think that you would enjoy them.
    I enjoyed them both very much, thank you.
    Yaaaaay! ^w^

    They were a really interesting band, as much for their music (which just got odder and odder with time) as their personal and musical connections: They rehearsed with Throbbing Gristle and toured with The Pop Group.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I would enjoy Do The Evolution more if it wasn't propaganda for a shitty book.
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    Also this is sacrilege, but Eddie Vedder is a shitty vocalist.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I actually enjoy some Pearl Jam songs, and Do The Evolution is one of them.

    I wish they would've showed off their melodicism more often, instead of constantly acting like they had something to prove to people who would've never liked them anyway.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I actually enjoy some Pearl Jam songs, and Do The Evolution is one of them.


    I wish they would've showed off their melodicism more often, instead of constantly acting like they had something to prove to people who would've never liked them anyway.
    It has a lot of good stuff going for it and a catchy riff.

    It's just the above.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I like Pearl Jam. Not bunches, but at least a little, enough to be curious about their discography. Maybe that makes me a bad music snob. But I do not care. It's sort of like how the Dave Matthews Band have strong nostalgia value for me, or how I really enjoy Arcade Fire but find The Suburbs a mixed bag.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I like Pearl Jam. Not bunches, but at least a little, enough to be curious about their discography. Maybe that makes me a bad music snob. But I do not care. It's sort of like how the Dave Matthews Band have strong nostalgia value for me, or how I really enjoy Arcade Fire but find The Suburbs a mixed bag.

    That's fine.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Good.

    Speaking of liking divisive music, power electronics and harsh noise are way more diverse genres than people give them credit for, but bad power electronics in particular is just boring.
  • edited 2014-06-24 22:06:01
    For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    @Byakuren: Anything in particular you're looking for? I just remember you liking "Endless Galaxy", and I can't think of very much that sounds like that.
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    MetaFour said:

    @Byakuren: Anything in particular you're looking for? I just remember you liking "Endless Galaxy", and I can't think of very much that sounds like that.

    That's a shame... well... hmm... I can't quite think of something else either...
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Digital Veil was awesome.
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    If I could compose, that would be the kind of music I would want to make!
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Maybe you'd like Afro Celt Sound System? Or maybe I just have Further in Time on my mind because I recently got it. But that and the remix album Pod are definitely their most energetic, groove-focused albums.
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    More updates.

    Derek & The Dominos: Layla and other assorted love songs — "Layla" is cool. Rest of album is eeeeeeeeehhhhhh.
    Los Super 7: Heard It on the X — It's slightly less diverse than listening to Third Coast Radio for several hours, yet somehow less cohesive.
    Morphine: The Cure for Pain — "Thursday" is cool. Rest of album might grow on me.
    John Zorn: Naked City The jazzier songs were cool. All the hardcore songs sounded the same.

    Currently listening to a 3-CD anthology of Duke Ellington radio singles from 1946 to 1947. Perhaps not as good as The Blanton-Webster Years anthology, but still wonderful stuff.
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Uncle Tupelo: Still Feel Gone — Liked it better than Anodyne but not as much as No Depression.
    Mae: Destination: B-Sides. I prolly would have liked this better back when I was super into these guys. It's been years since I've listened to the album this was attached to.
  • i heard a song in the pub, liked it, looked it up, it was chvrches. looks like I am re evaluating my opinion on them, slightly
  • i never would have bothered listening to them except i got their album for free, which is a pretty unfuckwithable price and it turned out to be decent fun so im glad that i gave them a chance
  • they're definitely a band where i get the feeling that they could be a lot better than they are though
  • like Science/Visions could have kept crescendoing for quite a while and it sure as heck didn't need to drop into the kinda clattering trance groove with the annoying ultra-indie male backing vocalist(s?)
  • speaking of which "ultra-indie male vocalist" has definitely reached the absolute top tier of annoying vox i dont want to hear ever, trumping "deathcore guy who only does inhales" and "Adam Levine"
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    and yet you listen to extreme metal genres where the vocals are all snarls
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    :)
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    speaking of which "ultra-indie male vocalist" has definitely reached the absolute top tier of annoying vox i dont want to hear ever, trumping "deathcore guy who only does inhales" and "Adam Levine"

    I have no idea why someone decided to separate Adam Levine's vocals from One More Night, but I put them back together again http://tinyurl.com/koyb9c5
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    speaking of which "ultra-indie male vocalist" has definitely reached the absolute top tier of annoying vox i dont want to hear ever, trumping "deathcore guy who only does inhales" and "Adam Levine"

    I have no idea why someone decided to separate Adam Levine's vocals from One More Night, but I put them back together again http://tinyurl.com/koyb9c5
    Infinitely better version of this song.
  • edited 2014-06-26 19:35:36
    the song i heard was Lies and i was impressed with its relatively original sounding production, (for poppy stuff) it caught my ear because it sounded quite diff to anything I'd heard in a while and originality is not something I anticipated from them
  • speaking of which "ultra-indie male vocalist" has definitely reached the absolute top tier of annoying vox i dont want to hear ever, trumping "deathcore guy who only does inhales" and "Adam Levine"

    +++

  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    sunn wolf said:

    the song i heard was Lies and i was impressed with its relatively original sounding production, (for poppy stuff) it caught my ear because it sounded quite diff to anything I'd heard in a while and originality is not something I anticipated from them

    "Lies" is an interesting little number, yes. Good chord progression, very acerbic lyrics.
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    Odradek said:

    speaking of which "ultra-indie male vocalist" has definitely reached the absolute top tier of annoying vox i dont want to hear ever, trumping "deathcore guy who only does inhales" and "Adam Levine"

    I have no idea why someone decided to separate Adam Levine's vocals from One More Night, but I put them back together again http://tinyurl.com/koyb9c5
    Infinitely better version of this song.
    I don't know what you're talking about.

    Sure someone decided to put audio of a family talking in Spanish there along with Levine's soaring inspired vocals, but otherwise it sounds EXACTLY the same.
  • edited 2014-06-26 19:47:08
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i actually don't get it

    Adam Levine doesn't sound notably bad or unpleasant

    or like notably anything
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    I like Payphone, because of how silly it is.

    The whole thing is so overwrought, the video is straight out of a self-insert fanfic Adam Levine wrote when he was twelve, and Wiz Khalifa doesn't even try to rhyme half his stuff.
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