The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    CA: I've seen it surmised that the "pictures" he's looking for are the dirty kind. :lol: That or he's just that ignorant.
  • edited 2012-05-28 23:20:12
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Suddenly, the YouTube Poop sentence mixing in which Gaston is made to say "How can you read this? There's no tits/bitches!" makes a strange amount of sense.

    But then again, he was flipping through the book with no intention of looking at it too closely. I wouldn't be surprised if he simply didn't notice them and was just trying to make a point to Belle.
  • SURE IS BORING AROUND HERE

    (by here I mean my room)

  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Gee, it sure is ARIAL FREAKING BLACK around here! 

    COMIC SANS MAH BOI, this peace is what all true fontographers strive for?
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    This is very comforting.


  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    I just wonder what Garamond's up to!

    Your Majesty, Garamond and his minions have seized the island of Courier New.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.



    really fun gimmick level

    I had to turn the volume off.  Someone needs to tell whoever was running his gums in this video that there's only one Super Mario Frustration, and it's not him. 
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    ^^That was raocow, and I have watched dozens and dozens of his videos because he makes me smile inside.
  • Raocow is probably the only LPer who can get away with being ABSOLUTELY WACKY imo.

    If you want him being really repetitive, watch his LP of Cat Planet.

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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I wonder how many raocow videos I've watched now.

    *thinks* probably at least 200.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    After Super Mario Frustration, there can be nothing else


    I still crack up years later watching/listening to that. Makes me wonder if it was scripted or this guy was an improv genius

  • The only series of his I've ever seen all the way through was his LP of A Super Mario Thing.

    Whose main character I had as an avatar for awhile.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Super Mario Frustration was pretty funny too.

    I think I've watched five, maybe six (?) complete raocow serieseses.


  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind

    USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

    reason: i don't like his face

  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Mercury: GOTHAM, GRAB MY SERIFS

    Gotham: *grabs Mercury's serifs*

    Mercury: EDITORIAL DESIGN
  • reason: TRAAAAAAAAAAAITOR
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    The only raocow LP I've watched all the way through is Cat Planet.

    I think he's pretty good; I just have to watch his LPs in bite-size chunks because I lose focus otherwise. This leads to me getting distracted by other things, unfortunately.
  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    you fool, you've de-revolutionized our business paradigm 
  • edited 2012-05-28 23:55:49

    appeal to emotion


    You attempted to manipulate an emotional response in place of a valid or compelling argument.


    Appeals to emotion include appeals to fear, envy, hatred, pity, pride, and more. It's important to note that sometimes a logically coherent argument may inspire emotion or have an emotional aspect, but the problem and fallacy occurs when emotion is used instead of a logical argument, or to obscure the fact that no compelling rational reason exists for one's position. Everyone, bar sociopaths, is affected by emotion, and so appeals to emotion are a very common and effective argument tactic, but they're ultimately flawed, dishonest, and tend to make one's opponents justifiably emotional.


    Example: Luke didn't want to eat his sheep's brains with chopped liver and brussel sprouts, but his father told him to think about the poor, starving children in a third world country who weren't fortunate enough to have any food at all.

  • false cause


    You presumed that a real or perceived relationship between things means that one is the cause of the other.

    One such mistake in thinking is the 'cum hoc ergo propter hoc' (with this, therefore because of this) fallacy in which someone presumes that because things are happening together that one thing is therefore the cause of the other. The mistake lies in ignoring the possibility that there may be a common cause to both things happening, or, as per the example below, that the two things in question have no causal relationship at all, and their apparent connection is just a coincidence. Another common variation is the 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' (after this, therefore because of this) fallacy in which a causal connection is assumed because one thing happens prior to another thing happening, therefore the second thing must be caused by the first thing.

    Example: Pointing to a fancy chart, Roger shows how temperatures have been rising over the past few centuries, whilst at the same time the numbers of pirates have been decreasing; thus pirates cool the world and global warming is a hoax.

  • strawman


    You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

    By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable or valid. This kind of dishonesty not only undermines rational discourse, it also harms one's own position because it brings your credibility into question - if you're willing to misrepresent your opponent's argument in the negative, might you also be willing to exaggerate your own in the positive?

    Example: After Will said that we should put more money into health and education, Warren responded by saying that he was surprised that Will hates our country so much that he wants to leave it defenceless by cutting military spending.

  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    USER WAS KARKAT FOR THIS POST. IDIOT.
  • middle ground



    You claimed that a compromise, or middle point, between two extremes must be


     the truth.

    Much of the time the truth does indeed lie between two extreme points, but this can bias our thinking: sometimes a thing is simply untrue and a compromise of it is also untrue. Half way between truth and a lie, is still a lie.

    Example: Holly said that vaccinations caused autism in children, but her scientifically well-read friend Caleb said that this claim had been debunked and proven false. Their friend Alice offered a compromise that maybe vaccinations cause some autism, just not all autism.


  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    i accidentally destroyed the universe again
  • the texas sharpshooter


    You cherry-picked a data cluster to suit your argument, or found a pattern to fit a presumption.


    This 'false cause' fallacy is coined after a marksman shooting randomly at barns and then painting bullseye targets around the spot where the most bullet holes appear, making it appear as if he's a really good shot. Clusters naturally appear by chance, but don't necessarily indicate that there is a causal relationship.

    Example: The makers of Sugarette Candy Drinks point to research showing that of the five countries where Sugarette drinks sell the most units, three of them are in the top ten healthiest countries on Earth, therefore Sugarette drinks are healthy.

  • anecdotal


    You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.


    It's often much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality.

    Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.

  • appeal to nature


    You argued that because something is 'natural' it is therefore valid, justified, inevitable, or ideal.


    Just because something is natural does not mean that it's good. For instance murder is very natural, but most of us agree that we don't think it's a very good thing to be doing, nor does its 'naturalness' constitute any kind of justification for it.

    Example: The medicine man rolled into town on his bandwagon offering various natural remedies, such as very special plain water. He said that it was only natural that people should be wary of 'artificial' medicines such as antibiotics.

  • begging the question


    You presented a circular argument in which the conclusion was included in the premise.

    This logically incoherent argument often arises in situations where people have an assumption that is very ingrained, and therefore taken in their minds as a given. Circular reasoning is bad mostly because it's not very good.

    Example: The word of Zorbo the Great is flawless and perfect. We know this because it says so in The Great and Infallible Book of Zorbo's Best and Most Truest Things that are Definitely True and Should Not Ever Be Questioned.

  • black-or-white


    You presented two alternative states as the only possibilities, when in fact more possibilities exist.

    Also known as the false dilemma, this insidious tactic has the appearance of forming a logical argument, but under closer scrutiny it becomes evident that there are more possibilities than the either/or choice that is presented. Binary, black-or-white thinking doesn't allow for the many different variables, conditions, and contexts in which there would exist more than just the two possibilities put forth. It frames the argument misleadingly and obscures rational, honest debate.

    Example: Whilst rallying support for his plan to fundamentally undermine citizens' rights, the Supreme Leader told the people they were either on his side, or they were on the side of the enemy.

  • the texas sharpshooter

    why would you call anything this.

  • genetic


    You judged something as either good or bad on the basis of where it comes from, or from whom it came.

    This fallacy avoids the argument by shifting focus onto something's or someone's origins. It's similar to an ad hominem fallacy in that it leverages existing negative perceptions to make someone's argument look bad, without actually presenting a case for why the argument itself lacks merit.

    Example: Accused on the 6 o'clock news of corruption and taking bribes, the senator said that we should all be very wary of the things we hear in the media, because we all know how very unreliable the media can be.

  • edited 2012-05-29 00:03:16
    i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind

     don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.

    i find this phrase hilarious. Perhaps because I stayed up until 4 AM last night??? nobody knows.

    not even Zorbo the Great.

  • the texas sharpshooter

    why would you call anything this.

    The Texas Sharpshooter fallacy comes from the story of a clever Texas "sharpshooter" shooting his gun, then drawing the target around where he hit.
  • I have decided to read The Daily Lives of High School Boys.

    I suspect I will like it, as it is supposedly written by Bomber Grape (the man responsible for THE ROOM IS RIPE WITH THE STENCH OF BITCHES)

  • no true scotsman


    You made what could be called an appeal to purity as a way to dismiss relevant criticisms or flaws of your argument.

    In this form of faulty reasoning one's belief is rendered unfalsifiable because no matter how compelling the evidence is, one simply shifts the goalposts so that it wouldn't apply to a supposedly 'true' example. This kind of post-rationalization is a way of avoiding valid criticisms of one's argument.

    Example: Angus declares that Scotsmen do not put sugar on their porridge, to which Lachlan points out that he is a Scotsman and puts sugar on his porridge. Furious, like a true Scot, Angus yells that no true Scotsman sugars his porridge.

  • composition/division


    You assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all, or other, parts of it.

    Often when something is true for the part it does also apply to the whole, but the crucial difference is whether there exists good evidence to show that this is the case. Because we observe consistencies in things, our thinking can become biased so that we presume consistency to exist where it does not.

    Example: Daniel was a precocious child and had a liking for logic. He reasoned that atoms are invisible, and that he was made of atoms and therefore invisible too. Unfortunately, despite his thinky skills, he lost the game of hide and go seek.

  • The Texas Sharpshooter fallacy comes from the story of a clever Texas "sharpshooter" shooting his gun, then drawing the target around where he hit.

    It's still silly.

  • appeal to authority


    You used the opinion or position of an authority figure, or institution of authority, in place of an actual argument.


    It is important to note with this fallacy that authorities in given fields may very well have valid arguments, and that one should not dismiss another's experience and expertise. To form an argument, however, one must defend it on its merits i.e. know why the person in authority holds the particular position that they do. It is, of course, entirely possible that the opinion of a person or institution of authority is wrong; therefore the authority that such a person or institution holds does not have any intrinsic bearing upon whether their claims are true or not.

    Example: Not able to defend his position that evolution 'isn't true' Bob says that he knows a scientist who also questions evolution (and presumably isn't a primate).

  • bandwagon



    You appealed to popularity or the fact that many people do something as an attempted form of validation.


    The flaw in this argument is that the popularity of an idea has absolutely no bearing on its validity.
    If it did, then the Earth would have made itself flat for most of history to accommodate people's popular belief.

    Example: Shamus pointed a drunken finger at Sean and asked him to explain how so many people could believe in leprechauns if they're only a silly old superstition. Sean, however, had had a few too many Guinness himself and fell off his chair.

  • the gambler's fallacy


    You said that 'runs' occur to statistically independent phenomena such as roulette wheel spins.


    This commonly believed fallacy can be fairly said to have created an entire city in the desert of Nevada USA. Though the overall odds of a 'big run' happening may be low, each spin of the wheel is itself entirely independent from the last. So whilst there may be a very small chance that heads will come up 20 times in a row if you flip a coin, the chances of heads coming up on each individual flip remain 50/50, and aren't influenced by what happened before.

    Example: Red had come up six times in a row on the roulette wheel, so Greg knew that it was close to certain that black would be next up. Suffering an economic form of natural selection with this thinking, he soon lost all of his savings.

  • oh my god this is totally Bomber Grape

    how could anyone reasonably argue that it's not. The styles aren't similar, they're identical.

  • burden of proof


    You said that the burden of proof lies not with the person making the claim, but with someone else to disprove.

    The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.

    Example: Bertrand declares that a teapot is, at this very moment, in orbit around the Sun between the Earth and Mars, and that because no one can prove him wrong, his claim is therefore a valid one.

  • FM WHY ARE YOU SPAMMING DEFINITIONS OF LOGICAL FALLACIES
  • loaded question


    You asked a question that had an assumption built into it so that it couldn't be answered without appearing guilty.


    Loaded question fallacies are particularly effective at derailing rational debates because of their inflammatory nature - the recipient of the loaded question is compelled to defend themselves and may appear flustered or on the back foot. Not only is this fallacy a kind of appeal to emotion, it also insidiously frames the argument in a misleading way, like a pre-emptive strawman fallacy.

    Example: Grace and Helen were both romantically interested in Brad. One day, with Brad sitting within earshot, Grace asked in an inquisitive tone whether Helen was having any problems with a drug habit.

  • FM WHY ARE YOU SPAMMING DEFINITIONS OF LOGICAL FALLACIES

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  • the "Ren and Stimpy" end credits song is in my head now

    as for why, I have no idea
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