True. Honestly, the biggest mark I can think of against organic life has nothing to do with emotion or even sensations exactly, but what it requires to exist.
I brought this up to Tzetze once.
he responded with "Thankfully, we humans can improve the lot of our fellow creatures through SCIENCE"
"It is a matter of grave importance that Fairy tales should be respected.... Whosoever alters them to suit his own opinions, whatever they are, is guilty, to our thinking, of an act of presumption, and appropriates to himself what does not belong to him." -- Charles Dickens
Technically, the origins of Islam were pretty militant, but not because the religion itself is militant so much as because Muhammad ended up being a kind of great unifier of the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula, and consequently a temporal ruler just as much as he was a religious leader. The notion that the tenets of Islam themselves are any more violent than any other is pretty absurd.
Absurd why? In Islamic doctrine, Muhammad is called sinless and al-insan al-kimal (the ideal man). And unlike Jesus or Buddha, he was a temporal ruler who conquered tribes and cities, massacred every male Banu Qurayza, and took numerous wives. I'd say it's absurd to assume that different ideals and different scriptures lead to equal outcomes, though it's possible that extraordinary evidence exists for the extraordinary claim we're (for some reason) expected to believe.
The relationship between the general day to day doings of followers of a religion and what is says in the holy books of that religion are often not entirely related.
Like, the "useful" parts of a religion that people are already naturally inclined to go through with get much closer following than other, less convenient bits.
And as the bits that people are already inclined to go along with in most major world religions are generally very similar (*injunctions against murdering people, weird food rules, holiday festivities, being nice to your neighbors, mean to your enemies, ect.*) it is safe to say that most religions are, in practice, largely identical.
Now Pillows will talk about things s/he always talks about
so I admire this author named Thomas Pynchon he writes these epic mindscrews and nobody knows what he even looks like he's real mysterious-like and also thrash metal stoner metal doom metal weird psychedelic music from 50 years ago nobody listens to anymore and also what is with Time? it's like, I hate it and it fascinates me and also I like to characterize it as a goddess speaking of which cow girls with big big boobs are attractive to me I bet you didn't know that and I made this Mario fangame name of Black Candles does anyone want to play it besides Miko and also I want to write an epic novel I'm making progress at an average of two words per day and also I hate TV TV is a wasteland of commercialism and stupidity and also I dislike gender stereotypes usually although who is totally consistent on that one and also Applejack is my favorite pony and also Patchouli Knowledge is my favorite Touhou and also death to Nickelback and also HAW HAW
When someone criticizes Islam, they get called racist or something. How is it racism?
because very few people who "have a problem with Islam" actually have a problem with Islam.
Generally they're either racists who want more excuses to hate brown people or they're r/atheist types who think all religions are the same. These are the same people who will insist Buddhism is a philosophy.
It is very rare to find, on the internet, anyone who is actually familiar with Islam and a level-headed critic of it.
Like, the "useful" parts of a religion that people are already naturally inclined to go through with get much closer following than other, less convenient bits.
And as the bits that people are already inclined to go along with in most major world religions are generally very similar (*injunctions against murdering people, weird food rules, holiday festivities, being nice to your neighbors, mean to your enemies, ect.*) it is safe to say that most religions are, in practice, largely identical.
i think saying they're largely identical is putting it too strongly
i mean agree with the rest of what you're saying, but only to a point; religions often have pretty major areas of disagreement with regards to specific practices, even if the kinds of things they make rules about are the same
for that matter, most people celebrate holidays, think that some things are good to eat and some are not, condemn killing people under certain circumstances, and think it's good to be nice to people they like and ok to be not nice to people they don't like
that tells you a lot about people in general, but not a lot about what any given person actually thinks
for that matter, most people celebrate holidays, think that some things are good to eat and some are not, condemn killing people under certain circumstances, and think it's good to be nice to people they like and ok to be not nice to people they don't like
that's kinda what i'm trying to point out, that people generally use religion to do what they wanted to do in the first place, regardless of what that religion actually has to say.
for that matter, most people celebrate holidays, think that some things are good to eat and some are not, condemn killing people under certain circumstances, and think it's good to be nice to people they like and ok to be not nice to people they don't like
that's kinda what i'm trying to point out, that people generally use religion to do what they wanted to do in the first place, regardless of what that religion actually has to say.
for better or for worse.
fair enough
given how much ideology permeates culture i wonder if this isn't a bit chicken-or-egg, tho
"Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
"When you wrestle a pig, you get dirty and the pig has fun"
Every time I start to get uppity and I start disagreeing with you guys and start moving towards victory in that; you guys need to remember this and change the subject.
I have never won an argument in my life, and you smart people need to disagree with me and prove me wrong.
"Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
"When you wrestle a pig, you get dirty and the pig has fun"
Every time I start to get uppity and I start disagreeing with you guys and start moving towards victory in that; you guys need to remember this and change the subject.
I have never won an argument in my life, and you smart people need to disagree with me and prove me wrong.
Well, if you were really an uppity person who never wins arguments, by that reckoning, it wouldn't be smart to disagree with you, so i'm going to disagree with you, because i'm not smart - or maybe i am, who knows?
It's a mystery.
i'm not actually going anywhere with this, sorry if you read this far expecting some form of argument.
When people prove me wrong and in some cases make me feel all foolish (like that time deathpigeon rewrote reality so as to have Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary be retroactively different to make me wrong about a certain word); it's just something that needs to happen, like shedding skin or losing teeth.
If you don't lose credibility every once in a while, it builds up and you die. Trufax. (Losing arguments is a natural mechanism to prevent such buildup)
-note: not actually a true fact. I've just gotten used to being proven wrong enough for it to feel natural, and even comforting. Something I can rely on people to do- RESUME SILLINESS
Like I almost never say, nothing wrong with being wrong, so long as you know you're wrong.
you know i'm not all that informed on this so i'd rather sit this argument out
but talking across people, and worse, putting strawman arguments into their mouths and going all herp derp i'm an idiot, is both obnoxious and intellectually dishonest
it doesn't further your argument, it just communicates your utter lack of respect for the person disagreeing with you
I remember when more people used to talk to me this way. Good times; I really felt the intensity of those disagreements, like snuggling up tight in the jacket/blanket of wrongness, so familiar and warm. It's just not the same with the slightly-warm towel of respectful difference of perception. -note: Not really, that's a lie. I prefer to be respectfully disagreed with, even if it is less memorable and intense-
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
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he responded with "Thankfully, we humans can improve the lot of our fellow creatures through SCIENCE"
gah, ninja'd horribly
not going to touch that post about Islam
and sometimes people pretend to criticize religions or ideologies in order to disguise their own racism
Generally they're either racists who want more excuses to hate brown people or they're r/atheist types who think all religions are the same. These are the same people who will insist Buddhism is a philosophy.
It is very rare to find, on the internet, anyone who is actually familiar with Islam and a level-headed critic of it.
i mean agree with the rest of what you're saying, but only to a point; religions often have pretty major areas of disagreement with regards to specific practices, even if the kinds of things they make rules about are the same
for that matter, most people celebrate holidays, think that some things are good to eat and some are not, condemn killing people under certain circumstances, and think it's good to be nice to people they like and ok to be not nice to people they don't like
that tells you a lot about people in general, but not a lot about what any given person actually thinks
given how much ideology permeates culture i wonder if this isn't a bit chicken-or-egg, tho
I really did
^groovy!
Maybe I'm wrong?
but it's iconic for a reason
both were awesome in different respects
or maybe i'm not
It's a mystery.
i'm not actually going anywhere with this, sorry if you read this far expecting some form of argument.
'disagree with this post because i am disagreeable'
if we disagree with that, then we affirm that you are disagreeable
if we agree, we deny that you are disagreeable
each of which implies the contrary and so on ad infinitum
Also, Jeep Wranglers are stylin'
i'm not sure this was for the better
i think it's ok to be wrong so long as you try not to be wrong, and so long as you stop being wrong when it's pointed out that you're wrong
but maybe that is because i lack faith in myself
whatever, high time i went to bed
good night