It's been a while since I made any gay jokes about Naney
I should do that again sometime
Also nobody ever makes queer jokes at my expense besides myself, for some reason
I mean, even as someone who is also on the LGBT spectrum I feel pretty uncomfortable making fun of anyone but myself on those grounds even in lightheartedness.
my understanding is that it's supposed to be a parody of a hentai protagonist's outfit or something. It's sort of treated as a joke in-show, but some people will find it tasteless regardless.
Also, it's like, alive, which is admittedly kinda weird.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
That's understandable.
For me, though, humor has always been a big part of how I cope with bad feelings...and of course, feeling like you're trapped in a body that doesn't suit you is a bad feeling.
i am entirely indifferent to anime fanservice unless it starts getting in the way of other things, in which case i dislike it immensely.
well I mean
for most of the episode our protagonist dresses rather normally but then suddenly.
A lot of people have had a problem with the show on those grounds (which is a topic I'm sort of sick of talking about, so I'll just leave you to draw your own conclusions).
she looks like carly carmine's kid sister or something
Sredni Vashtar said: Jabberwock said:i'd be interested to read your thoughts on YA fiction if you're willing to post them, Sredni.
I used to rant about this a lot over on TVT—nrjxll and I made for an interesting tag-team—but by this point I'm a little out of practice at explaining myself, so this might take awhile... It is only fairly recently that "young adult" and "middle-grade" fiction have been set aside as separate marketing categories from children's and adult literature. From a pure marketing perspective, this makes sense: Certain age brackets gravitate towards certain kinds of stories, organising books that way simplifies some things, and so forth. But I do not think that this is good for either writers or readers. In particular, the treatment of "Young Adult fiction" as if it were a genre is highly problematic for me. By treating all fiction for teenagers, regardless of genre, as if it were one single genre because it is simpler to market it that way, you elide differences and insult your readers. The trend chasing in the wake of successes like Twilight and The Hunger Games have only agitated this, I think: Ultra-specific trend genres like "teen dystopian romance" are singled out while the rest is treated as a homogenous mass. What is even more insidious is how this is drilled into the heads of young writers. Certain types of plots are favoured above others because they are genre conventions of an artificial genre. A protagonist in a novel written for a teenage readership must not be too young or too old, for example, for fear of "alienating readers;" one must be very careful about how one writes about sexuality, but a total dearth of romance is prudish and unrealistic; and so on. It is not unlike the instruction sheet they give you to write a Harlequin romance. I fucking loathe marketing culture.
Lindsay Ellis made a rather funny comment a while back, proposing a dystopian YA novel where on every girl's sixteenth birthday- or, in keeping with the trends of YA, her Selection Day- she must choose three men, to screw, marry... and kill.
And when you think about it that's the basic plot of a distressing number of them, of course, with many more proper nouns made of common words. I liked The Hunger Games overall but it's hard to ignore the negative impact it's had.
i am probably not as informed about publishers' criteria as i should be, but that does sound troubling.
i kind of want to write for a younger audience (not sure whether i should go YA or children's fiction, or whether i can do both) so this is the kind of thing i need to be aware of.
For me, though, humor has always been a big part of how I cope with bad feelings...and of course, feeling like you're trapped in a body that doesn't suit you is a bad feeling.
I dunno.
You're sort of like a pearl in an oyster. All you have to do is hide in an ocean and wait for a tourist to break you open or something.
I mean, even as someone who is also on the LGBT spectrum I feel pretty uncomfortable making fun of anyone but myself on those grounds even in lightheartedness.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Ugh, I'm too spoiled, aren't I? I feel bad for buying this smartphone... >_>
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
For me, though, humor has always been a big part of how I cope with bad feelings...and of course, feeling like you're trapped in a body that doesn't suit you is a bad feeling.
I dunno.
You're sort of like a pearl in an oyster. All you have to do is hide in an ocean and wait for a tourist to break you open or something.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
i am entirely indifferent to anime fanservice unless it starts getting in the way of other things, in which case i dislike it immensely.
well I mean
for most of the episode our protagonist dresses rather normally but then suddenly.
A lot of people have had a problem with the show on those grounds (which is a topic I'm sort of sick of talking about, so I'll just leave you to draw your own conclusions).
she looks like carly carmine's kid sister or something
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
my understanding is that it's supposed to be a parody of a hentai protagonist's outfit or something. It's sort of treated as a joke in-show, but some people will find it tasteless regardless.
Also, it's like, alive, which is admittedly kinda weird.
This show sounds amazingly ridiculous and ridiculously amazing.
Lindsay Ellis made a rather funny comment a while back, proposing a dystopian YA novel where on every girl's sixteenth birthday- or, in keeping with the trends of YA, her Selection Day- she must choose three men, to screw, marry... and kill.
And when you think about it that's the basic plot of a distressing number of them, of course, with many more proper nouns made of common words. I liked The Hunger Games overall but it's hard to ignore the negative impact it's had.
As indifferent as I am to much of her comedic schtick, Ellis did put her money where her mouth was with that whole "Fifty Shades Of Green" thing, and her commentary on YA in general tends to be spot on, so I'll give her props.
She also managed to assemble most of the interesting people on Blip under the Chez Apocalypse banner, meaning that I never actually have to come within shouting distance of TGWTG ever again. Thank you, Based Goddess.
my understanding is that it's supposed to be a parody of a hentai protagonist's outfit or something. It's sort of treated as a joke in-show, but some people will find it tasteless regardless.
Also, it's like, alive, which is admittedly kinda weird.
This show sounds amazingly ridiculous and ridiculously amazing.
I like it a lot, and while the fanservice is a minor factor for me (I am a sucker, what can I say) I would still like it a lot even if it was absent, so, take that as you will.
Speaking of which the second episode came out today, I should watch it.
i am entirely indifferent to anime fanservice unless it starts getting in the way of other things, in which case i dislike it immensely.
well I mean
for most of the episode our protagonist dresses rather normally but then suddenly.
A lot of people have had a problem with the show on those grounds (which is a topic I'm sort of sick of talking about, so I'll just leave you to draw your own conclusions).
she looks like carly carmine's kid sister or something
I don't know who that is.
yu-gi-oh 5DS character, a ditzy reporter who succumbs to evil and wears a similar outfit. she also has twippy hair but it's longer
i am probably not as informed about publishers' criteria as i should be, but that does sound troubling.
i kind of want to write for a younger audience (not sure whether i should go YA or children's fiction, or whether i can do both) so this is the kind of thing i need to be aware of.
Honestly, just write what you want and don't compromise. Most of these constraints and demands are just as much bad advice and internalised notions as they are actual expectations.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
when i was a wee lad i could not stand sad/dystopian stories and i had a strong dislike of most human protagonists, which kept me away from lots of the truly obnoxious books hackcoughthegiverhackcough
Honestly, just write what you want and don't compromise. Most of these constraints and demands are just as much bad advice and internalised notions as they are actual expectations.
i see.
honestly my main motivation for writing children's/YA fiction is that i want to write the kind of books i'd have liked to read as a kid
also you know what book I thought about earlier today that I hadn't previously thought about since like third grade?
Marco's Millions, that weird sci-fi book with the dimension travel and the hairs being keys to other worlds and the swinging boat thing and the mantis people.
I dunno if it's responsible for the unfortunate trends in children's literature as it was written long before dystopia was the norm, but even if it is in some way responsible I'd prefer to think it avoids many of the pratfalls of the YA Dystopia genre. For one thing, even if it is somewhat heavy handed it is tackling a rather more subtle moral dilemma than the average "oh no it forces teenagers to kill each other or something." Especially considering its target audience, it tackles some pretty heavy stuff that doesn't have an easy answer and could conceivably happen, and that's why even if it is pretty simple and even if there are better explorations of the same general concepts out there, The Giver is one of my favorite books.
funny thing, a bunch of people in class yesterday suggested i should write a dystopian short story for my big Writing Project
i don't know tho, i feel like for a dystopia you kind of need a political point, and that point should come first, otherwise you're just wasting people's time with it
funny thing, a bunch of people in class yesterday suggested i should write a dystopian short story for my big Writing Project
i don't know tho, i feel like for a dystopia you kind of need a political point, and that point should come first, otherwise you're just wasting people's time with it
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Honestly, just write what you want and don't compromise. Most of these constraints and demands are just as much bad advice and internalised notions as they are actual expectations.
i see.
honestly my main motivation for writing children's/YA fiction is that i want to write the kind of books i'd have liked to read as a kid
That is the best motivation. Maybe I say that because that is why I create things, but I really do find it noble.
I dunno if it's responsible for the unfortunate trends in children's literature as it was written long before dystopia was the norm, but even if it is in some way responsible I'd prefer to think it avoids many of the pratfalls of the YA Dystopia genre. For one thing, even if it is somewhat heavy handed it is tackling a rather more subtle moral dilemma than the average "oh no it forces teenagers to kill each other or something." Especially considering its target audience, it tackles some pretty heavy stuff that doesn't have an easy answer and could conceivably happen, and that's why even if it is pretty simple and even if there are better explorations of the same general concepts out there, The Giver is one of my favorite books.
But what I'm getting at here is that The Giver is quite a few cuts above the average Hunger Games knockoff, and this is not at all unrelated to the fact that it's pretty ambiguous if The Giver's world counts as a dystopia. Most YA dystopia books nowadays don't allow for any discussion or interpretation, and I appreciate that The Giver avoided patronizing its target audience.
i feel like for a dystopia you kind of need a political point, and that point should come first, otherwise you're just wasting people's time with it
ick ick ick ick ick don't do that, it's been done to death and it's crazy inflexible
you know that dystopian books were good? the mortal engines series. They were set in a dystopia, but it was used as a backdrop for a story that explored a wide range of fascinating ideas and was hella entertaining to boot.
I do not remember reading many books with animal or non-human protagonists when I was young, although I have always been more interested in non-human characters on principle.
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my understanding is that it's supposed to be a parody of a hentai protagonist's outfit or something. It's sort of treated as a joke in-show, but some people will find it tasteless regardless.
Also, it's like, alive, which is admittedly kinda weird.
I used to rant about this a lot over on TVT—nrjxll and I made for an interesting tag-team—but by this point I'm a little out of practice at explaining myself, so this might take awhile...
It is only fairly recently that "young adult" and "middle-grade" fiction have been set aside as separate marketing categories from children's and adult literature. From a pure marketing perspective, this makes sense: Certain age brackets gravitate towards certain kinds of stories, organising books that way simplifies some things, and so forth. But I do not think that this is good for either writers or readers.
In particular, the treatment of "Young Adult fiction" as if it were a genre is highly problematic for me. By treating all fiction for teenagers, regardless of genre, as if it were one single genre because it is simpler to market it that way, you elide differences and insult your readers. The trend chasing in the wake of successes like Twilight and The Hunger Games have only agitated this, I think: Ultra-specific trend genres like "teen dystopian romance" are singled out while the rest is treated as a homogenous mass.
What is even more insidious is how this is drilled into the heads of young writers. Certain types of plots are favoured above others because they are genre conventions of an artificial genre. A protagonist in a novel written for a teenage readership must not be too young or too old, for example, for fear of "alienating readers;" one must be very careful about how one writes about sexuality, but a total dearth of romance is prudish and unrealistic; and so on. It is not unlike the instruction sheet they give you to write a Harlequin romance.
I fucking loathe marketing culture.
Lindsay Ellis made a rather funny comment a while back, proposing a dystopian YA novel where on every girl's sixteenth birthday- or, in keeping with the trends of YA, her Selection Day- she must choose three men, to screw, marry... and kill.
i am probably not as informed about publishers' criteria as i should be, but that does sound troubling.
i kind of want to write for a younger audience (not sure whether i should go YA or children's fiction, or whether i can do both) so this is the kind of thing i need to be aware of.
same
I guess I should've seen that coming
it's ok to have a smartphone. Really.
i spend money on other things (like i recently spent a ton of money on clothing), it's really a question of weighing up your priorities
I knew it was Patchy who would do me in
It was revenge for all those hundreds of avatars
Speaking of which the second episode came out today, I should watch it.
sounds fair to me
i'm worried my phone is getting too old; the alarm didn't go off yesterday morning which meant i was late for class (luckily a fire drill woke me)
don't see the resemblance really. In either normal or Dark Signer mode.
Which wouldn't be that big a deal, except I didn't know it happened until after the fact and I kept missing phone calls. :\
take that back or I'll ensure you never cough again
well, I've never read it, but I know by its reputation that it's divisive to say the least.
i see.
honestly my main motivation for writing children's/YA fiction is that i want to write the kind of books i'd have liked to read as a kid
yeah, when it stops being fit for purpose it's definitely time to replace it
Marco's Millions, that weird sci-fi book with the dimension travel and the hairs being keys to other worlds and the swinging boat thing and the mantis people.
i mostly preferred books with animal protagonists, but that was less the case as i got older
Still do
i don't know tho, i feel like for a dystopia you kind of need a political point, and that point should come first, otherwise you're just wasting people's time with it
some Redwall books (particularly, I remember The Legend of Luke offhand), and of course the Warrior Cats series.
having said which, i really loved The Stray, which was about an elderly woman
also Harriet's Hare where the hare in question came from outer space (shut up, it was awesome)