Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Aren't there already Pokémon fan hacks that increase the Legendaries' base stats to crazy numbers like that? I remember reading about one somewhere.
It does seem like god Pokemon should have insane stats, be impossible to properly capture even with a Master Ball, and generally be a case of, "...Shit"
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
That oddly reminds me of how the Master Ball used to have a 1/256 chance of breaking open.
Anyhow, maybe Route 1 should also have some Roggenrolas. It is a mountain, after all.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Ah, okay, just wanted to make sure we didn't need everything to be a SUPER SECRET SURPRISE.
Is ths game intended for people with little pokemon experience, or be for people with quite a lot of it? (Discovering all the new ones vs. EV grinding)
Don't worry though, the gym guide will give advice more along the lines of, "Don't bother with grass types - this leader has a counter. I'd recommend x Pokemon/Strategy to beat them"
Not quite that straight forward, but that's the gist of the kind of advice
Also don't forget: This IS the ingame AI. So it may decide to ignore its deadly strategy all together and instead use, say, growl on a Psychic type
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
I was under the impression that on a scale between the regular game and Blaze Black/Volt White, this game would be sort of a medium difficulty. Thus far, this does not seem to be mistaken.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Aww, that's adorable! :)
Anything else you need help with at the moment (and if it's a secret then feel free to PM it)?
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Right up until events taking place after the first gym
^^ Well, there is a late game gym. Over 350 by 250 tiles in size. Then there are the alleyways, the subways, the maze like interconnecting buildings...
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Kinda like Castelia in BW2? Sounds challenging, but I'm still up for it.
Does it have any significant time-period counterparts?
After the E4, you can access past it. It would be three small towns. Lugia would be found in the area (the present has three gyms in it. Ice w/ an Articuno, Electric w/ a Zapdos, and Fire w/ a Moltres. Yep. A city with three gyms)
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
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So basically, Pokemon the Movie 2000: The City. Got it.
Articuno: Zapdos: Moltres: Mewtwo: Mew: (Same location as Mewtwo but in the past) Entei: Raikou: Suicune: Lugia: Center of the mega city, but in the past Ho-oh: Celebi: Echo Woods Regirock: Regice: Registeel: Kyogre: Groudon: Rayquaza: Jirachi: Deoxys: Azelf: Mesprit: Uxie: Dialga: Palkia: Giratina: Reverse World (After beating ghost leader... Who ends up being Giratina) Heatran: Regigigas: Cresselia: Darkrai: Shaymin: Manaphy: Arceus: Origin Cave Victini: Cobalion: Virizion: Terrakion: Tornadus: Thundurus: Landorus: Zekrom: Reshiram: Kyurem: Meloetta: Keldeo: Genesect:
Basically you start in the top left corner. Go to the Rock leader. Warp to past. Go face Bug and Normal in any order. Go face Flying. Warp to present. Go face Poison. Go to city left of Fighting. Warp to past. Go face Fighting. Warp to present. Go face Steel and Psychic in any order. Go to city right of Psychic. Warp to past. Go face Grass. Go face Water and Ground in any order. Go... Somewhere? This is where the map starts saying fuck you to me. Warp to present. Go face Ice, Electric, and Fire in any order. Go face Dark (might throw in a high speed subway so you don't have to do insane backtracking to get there). Go attempt to face E4. Warp to past. Go face Dragon. Go to town in top left corner. Warp to present. Go face E4
Any suggestions for the map to reduce backtracking? And this is just the map before Post Game. After post game you unlock some past routes/cities in the present and vice versa, along with a few new places not currently on the map
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
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I like the subway idea. The path between the time warp on the far east side of the map and the Grass gym seems a bit long; I would either put it south of the Psychic gym or put something like a story event or a minigame somewhere along the way. Perhaps both. Apart from that, it looks good to me.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
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Well, the ocean is obviously Kyogre and Manaphy's domain. Or maybe the Regis, since they were entombed on islands in Hoenn.
What about Keldeo? You could see it training, it notices you, flees, and a man fills you in on the legend? Catching Keldeo could unlock the other three, all in the past?
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
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I completely forgot that the Ghost gym was post-E4, even when you told me why. Now I'm almost tempted to suggest a name like Garin to see if people catch on before the big reveal.
Just line up all the gyms next to each other so it cuts down on all the wasted time trying to get there and the requirement of all the different HMs needed to progress.
And the HMs will all be optional. Using blockades and such (which makes sense considering events in the present get bad, and events in the past involve a terrorist group)
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
I'm afraid I'm no good at actually making tiles. Sorry.
As for the Legendary Trios: I like the Beasts best, but they seem a little clichéd. Then again, we already have Eevee as a starter, so I guess we shouldn't be too worried about that.
Nonetheless, I'll put my vote in for the Birds and the Kamis. The birds seem to have storyline significance already, and I still haven't tried out the Therian Formes.
Yeah beasts I am apprehensive about as they don't fit the region pre E4 very well, and the Muskedeer are also there, so...
Kami sound good. Not sure where to place them yet, however
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The birds... Not entirely sure. If I make them related to the gym leader ones, then you'd catch their birds. If not related, then how do I handle them?
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
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Sinnoh dragons or Unova dragons? And didn't you want Lugia and Ho-Oh to be post-E4 too?
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Maybe we should move discussion to PMs though?
Anyways, Eevee is the starter so roggenrola make it... Yeah
But if we DO go with that, then maybe:
Origin Cave
F1 Zubat, Rattata, Woobat
BF1 Zubat, Rattata, Woobat
-Rare: Ditto (No Pokeballs til after the cave. I'll see if I can disable shinies there)
Route 1 Present: Rattata, Caterpie, Spearow
-Rare: Whismur, Hoppip, Roggenrola
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Not quite that straight forward, but that's the gist of the kind of advice
Also don't forget: This IS the ingame AI. So it may decide to ignore its deadly strategy all together and instead use, say, growl on a Psychic type
I ended up with a new trainer class instead. A guy with one hand in his pocket. He is wearing a hoodie and jeans. Casual (Male)
I'm going to make all young couples have an old couple counterpart in the exact same spot in the present, where possible
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^^ Well, there is a late game gym. Over 350 by 250 tiles in size. Then there are the alleyways, the subways, the maze like interconnecting buildings...
Articuno:
Zapdos:
Moltres:
Mewtwo:
Mew: (Same location as Mewtwo but in the past)
Entei:
Raikou:
Suicune:
Lugia: Center of the mega city, but in the past
Ho-oh:
Celebi: Echo Woods
Regirock:
Regice:
Registeel:
Kyogre:
Groudon:
Rayquaza:
Jirachi:
Deoxys:
Azelf:
Mesprit:
Uxie:
Dialga:
Palkia:
Giratina: Reverse World (After beating ghost leader... Who ends up being Giratina)
Heatran:
Regigigas:
Cresselia:
Darkrai:
Shaymin:
Manaphy:
Arceus: Origin Cave
Victini:
Cobalion:
Virizion:
Terrakion:
Tornadus:
Thundurus:
Landorus:
Zekrom:
Reshiram:
Kyurem:
Meloetta:
Keldeo:
Genesect:
...Yeeeah...
Basically you start in the top left corner. Go to the Rock leader. Warp to past. Go face Bug and Normal in any order. Go face Flying. Warp to present. Go face Poison. Go to city left of Fighting. Warp to past. Go face Fighting. Warp to present. Go face Steel and Psychic in any order. Go to city right of Psychic. Warp to past. Go face Grass. Go face Water and Ground in any order. Go... Somewhere? This is where the map starts saying fuck you to me. Warp to present. Go face Ice, Electric, and Fire in any order. Go face Dark (might throw in a high speed subway so you don't have to do insane backtracking to get there). Go attempt to face E4. Warp to past. Go face Dragon. Go to town in top left corner. Warp to present. Go face E4
Any suggestions for the map to reduce backtracking? And this is just the map before Post Game. After post game you unlock some past routes/cities in the present and vice versa, along with a few new places not currently on the map
Maybe give a chance to catch a legendary? Basically a side plot? Around there should be ocean...
Well we'll brainstorm ideas
With this idea plus maybe a cabin on the path with a game of Pokér...
The maps adjusted so far. Yellow is Post E4 content so far
I want there to be three of the six minor trios (Unova has two minor trios) and a few other legendaries available before the E4
I know that the Muskedeers will be available
What should the other two trios be?
Birds
Beasts
Golems
Pixies
Kami
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Kami sound good. Not sure where to place them yet, however
Birds
Victini
Mid game (Badges 9-14):
Muskedeer
Shaymin (Story Point)
Keldeo
Late game (Badges 15-E4):
Kami
Meloetta
Post E4:
The rest
Sound good? Or anybody want certain legends at certain points? Celebi, the Dragon Trio, and Arceus WILL be Post Game
Anyhow, I'm fine with that setup.