Okay, can I just have some consensus on this?

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  • edited 2012-09-03 15:08:47

    Verb

    affect (third-person singular simple present affects, present participle affecting, simple past and past participle affected)

    1. (transitive) To aim for, to try to obtain.
    2. (transitive, now rare) To feel affection for; to like, be fond of.
       [quotations ▼]
    3. (transitive) To make a false display of.
  • To make or bring about; to implement.
    The best way to effect change is to work with existing stakeholders
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  • But I wasn't saying
    To make or bring about; to implement.
    I was saying
    To make a false display of.
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:10:41
    Verb

    effect (third-person singular simple present effects, present participle effecting, simple past and past participle effected)

    1. To make or bring about; to implement.
      The best way to effect change is to work with existing stakeholders.

    Okay, you win.

    Sorry.

  • But I wasn't saying

    To make or bring about; to implement.
    I was saying
    To make a false display of.

  • edited 2012-09-03 15:11:19
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  • He ninja'd me.

    Sorry.

  • Behold, let us do some substitution:
    It amuses me that people would  bring about / implement American-ness in order to be pretentious.
    This is not what I was saying, it makes no sense
    It amuses me that people would make a false display of American-ness in order to be pretentious.
    Which is what I said, and does make sense.
  • I understand that, and I apologize for making it into an argument.

    I don't sarcastically apologize.

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  • edited 2012-09-03 15:38:47
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  • I think we should all go back to measuring things in hands
  • No, because dividing with base-12 measurements is much easier. Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with a country having a different way of doing things.
  • Kexruct said:

    No, because dividing with base-12 measurements is much easier. Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with a country having a different way of doing things.

    International consistency would improve efficiency.
  • Also true, but globalization isn't always good.
  • Now, I'm not in a position to really compare the tradeoff between overall streamlining / your alleged "ease of use" (*I've always found metric easier, but whatever floats your boat*)
  • Kexruct said:

    Also true, but globalization isn't always good.

    I didn't say it was, but I fail to see how it wouldn't be in this instance. but as I said, I am no expert.
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:46:16
    Besides, basically every single instance of the imperial system also has the equivalent metric measurement.
  • Kexruct said:

    Besides, it's not like basically every single instance of the imperial system also has the equivalent metric measurement.

    Well, sense the metric system divides neatly on any scale, you don't need as many.
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:48:42
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  • what frosty said.
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:53:15

    Why are you so adamant about this? I'm comfortable with Imperial measurements. Yes, I know, they are silly (trust me, I've had that hammered into my head by science teachers since elementary school), but in casual conversation, it really doesn't matter.   I only started this thread to ensure clarity when communicating, but it's turned into an argument over whether what Americans do is wrong or if it matters at all.

  • ijbm: when someone says what i was trying to say and says it far better than I could have
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:52:47
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  • Frosty said:

    ^^ If you insist that your international friends use them around you, it does.

    This. I'm sick and tired of going around converting back and forth for some silly arbitrary reason


    Things like this should be simple.
  • BUT I'M NOT.

    I don't care what terminology we use, I just want to ensure everyone knows it and that we understand it and that no one acts elitist about it!

  • Kexruct said:

    BUT I'M NOT.

    I don't care what terminology we use, I just want to ensure everyone knows it and that we understand it and that no one acts elitist about it!

    But not everyone knows it, that's the problem.
  • Which is why I made the thread!
  • edited 2012-09-03 15:59:02
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  • I thought this thread was about soccer/football/whatevsidgadf


    And reaching a consensus wouldn't mean that people would automatically know these things.
  • No, what I said, or at least meant, was that we need consistency with what we call it. If we call it "football" all the time that's fine provided we agree to it.
  • edited 2012-09-03 16:01:57
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    The various imperial/US customary measurements aren't actually arbitrary; they developed largely independently of one another and the units are whatever people found convenient for their purposes.  I find the metric system much easier to use, but that's having grown up using it.  The transition from imperial to metric units in the UK was confusing and unintuitive to a lot of people, because it meant having to learn an entirely new system from scratch, and one which doesn't closely resemble the system it replaced.  The "superiority" of the metric system depends largely on what you're used to, and sometimes on what it is you're trying to measure.

    Kexruct, is your goal to find out what people mean, or to establish a standard we should follow, or what?  I'm a little confused here.

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    Kexruct said:

    No, what I said, or at least meant, was that we need consistency with what we call it. If we call it "football" all the time that's fine provided we agree to it.

    But isn't that precisely what you said you found sad earlier?
  • We should call it baseball
  • edited 2012-09-03 16:02:17
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  • basketball perhaps
  • That's what I meant though.

    There are many bad things  about me but ethnocentricism is not one of them.

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    How about from now on "football" = Aussie rules, without exception
  • i think no one should mention any sport ever again


    that way we all win
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  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Why cant you just call it "Football" and "NFL"?
  • i vote we call it national socialist black metal
  • edited 2012-09-03 16:13:48

    Football should be measured in hands


    think about it.
  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    all sports ever should just be called calvinball

    everyone wins

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  • all sports ever should just be called calvinball

    everyone wins

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    But is it metric or imperial calvinball?


    are there nazis?
  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    the calvinball committee hasn't reached a consensus on those questions yet
  • the calvinball committee hasn't reached a consensus on those questions yet

    Someone should start a thread so one can be reached.
  • But seriously, why do these things matter so much to people? Why must we be so sure, so certain?


    Why are we here?


    What the fuck is "Blue Raspberry" anyways?
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