Well, Hux and Phasma have accents as well. Maybe it might be a higher-ranking First Order thing.
Alternatively, peeps in the galaxy may just be born with whatever accent they have, which would explain Rey's if that theory about her being Luke's dorter has any weight.
I like their point about how all the new cast are audience stand-ins by virtue of being fans of events from the OT. It was something I'd felt but hadn't been able to articulate before.
That's a cute touch I hadn't previously considered. The flipside is that the whole film's worship of the OT is so intense that we know the film's structure and most of its story beats before they happen. My inner critical monologue had a hard time letting that pass, because it's like
During The Filming Of The Original Trilogy
"So we're making this film about samurai wizards in space and and and"
During The Filming Of The Force Awakens
"We have to get the space samurai wizards exactly right."
Like, the worship level towards the OT feels like it runs contrary to what the Star Wars OT was actually doing. Which was translating boundless creativity (a virtue Lucas clearly has, even if his execution is lacking without co-authority) into a film that could be easily digested by mainstream audiences. This film got the accessibility right, but it's not particularly creative, and the whole in-universe myth worship thing brings that to the forefront again for me.
I mean, I know I must sound like a broken record, but I really hope that the next films will strike out on their own path. The next film will almost necessarily have some of the tone of ESB, by virtue of being the second act in a three act Hollywood blockbuster story (and therefore nearly necessitating a conclusion that implies the bad guys are winning), but I'm going to get so Sithif Kylo cuts off Rey's hand or some shit I swear
while i felt the film was maybe overly close to the first movie in places, i'm willing to let it slide because they tried to do something different with the prequels and people hated it
i don't blame them for playing it safe with this one
Yeah, I was pretty annoyed with some of the recapitulation. Like, another, bigger death star? Really.
Rey and Finn are sufficiently different from Luke and Han Solo and all that I liked things over all, though.
Things seemed to be moving in a different direction. Like, Rey's excited about space heroism and all, but when she's given a lightsaber she freaks out and runs rather than going all this is just like my animes.
Also Luke's probably all sad now so he might not even give mentor advice to his kid.
I think the movie hit the "sweet spot" of meaningful retreading, but only by a hair
also the prequels were "different" but also Attack of the Clones was a complete clusterfucking panderfest and is considered by me at least the worst of the trilogy so I'd say there's a right and wrong way to do this
I can see that point of view, too, and I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be thinking of that if I held the reins.
On the other hand, that the prequels are so different from the OT is not their chief issue. Or really an issue at all. They're a characterisation and plot nightmare. TFA is an upgrade in the sense that those things are straightforward and basically sensible, but it's not a Star Wars film that can reinvigorate the setting in a creative sense. Broken record alert again (sorry), but it does come across as fan-fiction. That's not awful because fan-fiction has some amazing potential and some of my favourite stories hinge on it (like Arthurian mythology), but TFA definitely hits the poorer side of fan-fiction at times, and that side is in repeating the patterns of the original source material indefinitely.
I've seen this pattern before and it can never be more than putting the setting on life support. This time, it's been done via canon film, but the pattern can be clearly seen in basically any well-loved setting with supporting material from mediums other than the medium of origin. Alien, LotR, and naturally Star Wars, all have a long history of additional works that are fond imitations of content in the source material. That's fun for a fan that wants to revisit their favourite moments with a new coat of paint, but in the long term, it never really makes things better.
I should have another shot at being more concise, I guess.
I think the movie hit the "sweet spot" of meaningful retreading, but only by a hair
also the prequels were "different" but also Attack of the Clones was a complete clusterfucking panderfest and is considered by me at least the worst of the trilogy so I'd say there's a right and wrong way to do this
this seems to be the majority opinion
i actually liked it the most out of all the prequels when i saw it for the first time, clunky dialogue aside
I can let it go for this film since astute recycling and repeating events are a huge part of the Star Wars DNA, but if they end up doing this again I will start to get kinda cross.
1. The Millenium Falcon's appearance was immensely worrying at first. I think the film eventually got away with it. Eventually.
2. The retread of the Death Star was fucking lame as hell. That part I was not really digging at all. Like, granted, KOTOR did something similar, but at least the Star Forge had a vastly different function than the Death Star.
i'm a contrarian asshole: the Millennium Falcon's appearance was hilarious and awesome
kinda eyerolled at how every time there's a dramatic confrontation a vast pit appears though, that's like the greatest constant across the original trilogy, prequels and TFA
Perhaps in a literal sense, but there's the literal definition and there's the patterns of content. I guess TFA would be "fan-fiction" either way in a literal sense, but I brought the term up because it's so fond of repeating patterns we're familiar with.
Repetition (with variation) is a valid artistic technique. Like i said, TFA maybe went a little too far for me at times, but i'm willing to let it slide given understandable caution on the part of those making the movie.
"I don't mind the repetition here, but Episode VIII better do something more original, or I'll be pissed," seems to be the consensus among everyone who liked The Force Awakens.
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
also that's an interesting idea myyyyrmidon
Alternatively, peeps in the galaxy may just be born with whatever accent they have, which would explain Rey's if that theory about her being Luke's dorter has any weight.
rey is obviously so excited to be a space hero
i don't blame them for playing it safe with this one
Rey and Finn are sufficiently different from Luke and Han Solo and all that I liked things over all, though.
Things seemed to be moving in a different direction. Like, Rey's excited about space heroism and all, but when she's given a lightsaber she freaks out and runs rather than going all this is just like my animes.
Also Luke's probably all sad now so he might not even give mentor advice to his kid.
i actually liked it the most out of all the prequels when i saw it for the first time, clunky dialogue aside
I see what you're saying.
I can let it go for this film since astute recycling and repeating events are a huge part of the Star Wars DNA, but if they end up doing this again I will start to get kinda cross.
I do agree with the Death Star retread, though.
kinda eyerolled at how every time there's a dramatic confrontation a vast pit appears though, that's like the greatest constant across the original trilogy, prequels and TFA
Repetition (with variation) is a valid artistic technique. Like i said, TFA maybe went a little too far for me at times, but i'm willing to let it slide given understandable caution on the part of those making the movie.