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  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    Aliroz said:

    I wish people would talk to me.


    . Have you read Elizabeth Alder's The King's Shadow?
    I don't read much, Ali. You know that.

    It's really great, and even thought you don't read much, it's one of my favorite nooks.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Tre said:

    So Psychonauts is pretty rad

    Minus the use of "g***sy" to describe Raz's past I like it a lot

    "gypsy"?
  • i am here

    with diet coke, roasted peanuts, dried fruit and pistachios
  • Tre said:

    I wish people would talk to me.

    Yooooo
    you are now guilty of putting Crank That in my head
    Is this because of my thread, or what I just said?

    because I didn't mean YOOOOOOOUUUUU, that's different
  • Anonus said:

    Tre said:

    So Psychonauts is pretty rad

    Minus the use of "g***sy" to describe Raz's past I like it a lot

    "gypsy"?
    yeah, that's a slur.

    the more correct term is the rarely-used "Roma", I believe.
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    I wish people would talk to me.


    . Have you read Elizabeth Alder's The King's Shadow?
    I don't read much, Ali. You know that.

    It's really great, and even thought you don't read much, it's one of my favorite nooks.
    I believe you, I just don't know where I'd pick it up. There really aren't any bookstores around here and our library is quite small and mostly geared toward young adults.
  • Anonus said:

    Tre said:

    So Psychonauts is pretty rad

    Minus the use of "g***sy" to describe Raz's past I like it a lot

    "gypsy"?
    yeah

    enough people consider it a slur that hearing it used casually is uncomfortable

    but other than that I do quite enjoy it, it strikes me as what would happen if Inception and Rayman 3 had a baby
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Should I call them the tzigani or tziganist people?
  • Aliroz said:

    Should I call them the tzigani or tziganist people?

    Romani.
  • I used to know a Roma girl, actually, she may have been my first crush.

    I didn't know her all that well mind you, she was someone I went to grade school with.

    I wrote dorky poems about her because I was stupid back then.
  • TreTre
    edited 2014-01-30 03:21:31
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    I guess you could, but I would keep caution. I think that's considered offensive as well.

    Myself, I just tend to stick with Roma/Romani...
  • Aliroz said:

    Should I call them the tzigani or tziganist people?

    Romani.
    Oh is it Romani? Not Roma?

    I feel so ignorant whenever I talk about this cuz it's one of the few areas of "peoples of the world" that I have almost no knowledge on at all.
  • Both seem to be fine.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    "Pinkie's Brew" has "gypsy" in its lyrics...
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I'm not saying it's not a slur, I just thought of that
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    That word is used throughout FIW, honestly...it should probably bother me more than it does.
  • I think the problem with that word is that we're not conditioned to consider it a taboo word, and thus a lot of people use it without second thought.
  • Father shall be swallowed by the son, and brother shall be swallowed by brother.
    It seems to be one of those words people don't realize can be offensive due to how ubiquitous it's become as far as describing the Roma is concerned, like how 'nigger' became commonplace for describing black folks before people smartened up. Even then, some Roma folk have no problem with people using it, and that's understandable, I guess, but just to be safe I try to avoid using it personally.

    If any other race knows the terrible connotations an exonym can earn over time, it'd be my own.
  • Father shall be swallowed by the son, and brother shall be swallowed by brother.
    Ninja'd by Mo and switched accounts because Vanilla hates mobile Chrome.

    Bluh.
  • Father shall be swallowed by the son, and brother shall be swallowed by brother.
    In other, less problematic news, my avatar on this account finally makes some semblance of sense again

    Hellaaaaaaa
  • i never did post my thoughts on Yeezus

    it was going to be a long, funny rant-thing

    but now i just don't feel like it'd be worth the time
  • im legit not tired at all and it's nearly 3:30 in the morning.

    i will be yelled at again

    i hate yelling, it makes me want to shrivel up and die
  • i wish i was better at being funny

    being good enough to make a career of it would be amazing
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    ^^aww

    i hate being yelled at too

    ^similarly i worry that i'd be bad at writing characters, but i haven't really tried
  • edited 2014-01-30 04:55:46
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Roma and Romani are not entirely synonymous

    not all Romani identify as Roma; 'roma' is the Romani word for 'men' but is also an ethnic identifier in Eastern Europe

    i kind of want to let Psychonauts off since most Americans don't even know 'gypsy' is a slur, but i guess that's not an excuse
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Americans use it quite casually. Its status as a slur is not well known here.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Nor here, which is certainly less forgivable.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Speaking of race issues... is it bad that it strikes me as unreasonable for someone who isn't English to come over here and complain about the immigrants?

    It seems hypocritical.

    Just got out of a conversation with a guy who was saying that stuff.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    Speaking of race issues... is it bad that it strikes me as unreasonable for someone who isn't English to come over here and complain about the immigrants?

    It seems hypocritical.

    Just got out of a conversation with a guy who was saying that stuff.

    It is. Unless he is being outright harassed by said immigrants, I do not think that he has room to complain.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    On an unrelated note, I am reading about Benjamin Britten.
  • what can you tell me about Benjamin Britten
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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    #reasonswhyyoushouldreadDialHForHero

    The actual thing or my liveblog. Or both!
  • edited 2014-01-30 07:33:14
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    MacDuffy said:

    what can you tell me about Benjamin Britten

    Extremely talented composer active primarily in the early to mid-twentieth century, originally for Aldeburgh, England. Probably best known for the operas Peter Grimes, The Turn of the Screw and Death in Venice. Struggled with an attraction to teenage boys that he never acted upon (which informs much of his work), although he did fall in love with and end up spending half of his life with the tenor Peter Pears, for whom he composed several very striking song cycles. He was also an openly gay socialist and pacifist at the height of the Cold War.
  • MacDuffy said:

    what can you tell me about Benjamin Britten

    Extremely talented composer active primarily in the early to mid-twentieth century, originally for Aldeburgh, England. Probably best known for the operas Peter Grimes, The Turn of the Screw and Death in Venice. Struggled with an attraction to teenage boys that he never acted upon (which informs much of his work), although he did fall in love with and end up spending half of his life with the tenor Peter Pears, for whom he composed several very striking song cycles. He was also an openly gay socialist and pacifist at the height of the Cold War.


    i should go
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Why?

    (The book I'm reading is The Rest is Noise by Alex Ross, by the way. It is fascinating.)
  • edited 2014-01-30 08:01:05
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    (Also, by saying that Britten's issues informed his work, I mean that there is a mournful preoccupation with the corruption of innocence and a definite twinge of internal conflict and self-loathing in a lot of his work, although it is most obvious in, say, Death in Venice. Of course, that had just as much to do with his own emotional immaturity as anything else...)
  • edited 2014-01-30 08:27:32
    it was a joke

    mass effect

    in all seriousness he actually sounds really interesting
  • edited 2014-01-30 08:36:46
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Ah, OK.

    Yeah, he's one of those people that you wouldn't immediately expect to be fascinating but actually really is. A lot of composers are like that, actually; I guess it's like being any sort of artist in that way.

    What's particularly interesting about him from a music history perspective is how contrary he was to prevailing compositional idiom: While most prominent composers were deep into total serialism and other forms of hard atonality and avant-garde confrontation, Britten's work was mostly tonal, highly impressionistic and just plain beautiful--something which certainly did not please Boulez and his ilk.

    That's the one nice thing about living in the twenty-first century: Chamber music is no longer the domain of the Drama Llama.
  • Pie served at 120 Degrees.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
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  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Uncanny indeed.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Of course, something complicating matters is that a lot of people use gypsy to describe all nomadic peoples, not just the Romani.
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
  • The status of "gypsy" might be similar to the status of "spaz", in the United States -- a term that's considered offensive elsewhere but not here.

    Though I think "gypsy" is falling out of favor too.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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