so caspian's new album, 'dust and disquiet', is available to stream in its entirely from the new york times right now. recommend any post-rock aficionados give it a listen as it is quite good
Chillwave is great but it was killed by tastemakers because it wasn't profitable enough.
True story.
Chillwave died at least partly because it wasn't much of a thing to begin with. It was a bunch of music writers acting like a trend was a genre. DSBM is more of a genre than chillwave.
anyways he released a new album yesterday, free as a thank you to the fans for everyone helping him out with whatever financial predicament he was in
The facts do not seem to support your opinion there, Jane.
Incidentally, I agree with him that using generalised ratings as a way to pre-judge music can screw with how you perceive it and maybe even steer you into a different opinion from what your personal taste might tell you. Furthermore, saying that you make music for your own enjoyment rather than to fit other people's tastes is pretty uncontroversial as a method for making art. Sure, saying that you do it outright can come off as belligerent or contrary, but most musicians are, in one way or another, pursuing an ideal of what they want to hear rather than some unicorn fantasy of what others desire in music like theirs, whatever that is.
And I'm not even sure that's really what he's saying. Funk makes music for himself, and he likes seeing unvarnished reactions, even negative ones, because they assume nothing about what he does. It is more honest than someone who thinks they know what VSnares sounds like and bitching when they don't dig the new direction as if it's all about them.
Chillwave is great but it was killed by tastemakers because it wasn't profitable enough.
True story.
Chillwave died at least partly because it wasn't much of a thing to begin with. It was a bunch of music writers acting like a trend was a genre. DSBM is more of a genre than chillwave.
anyways he released a new album yesterday, free as a thank you to the fans for everyone helping him out with whatever financial predicament he was in
The facts do not seem to support your opinion there, Jane.
Incidentally, I agree with him that using generalised ratings as a way to pre-judge music can screw with how you perceive it and maybe even steer you into a different opinion from what your personal taste might tell you. Furthermore, saying that you make music for your own enjoyment rather than to fit other people's tastes is pretty uncontroversial as a method for making art. Sure, saying that you do it outright can come off as belligerent or contrary, but most musicians are, in one way or another, pursuing an ideal of what they want to hear rather than some unicorn fantasy of what others desire in music like theirs, whatever that is.
i am perhaps just prone to overreaction given how often i hear bland "the internet is bad and it's killing music" and "my fans are ungrateful idiots who don't understand my work" statements from musicians of all stripes.
not just boring indie rock dudes as one might expect.
Yeah, I get that, but while VSnares is notoriously grumpy, he strikes me as a little too self-aware and thoughtful to actually hold those opinions as you state them. I mean, I am pretty sure he is perfectly OK with the vast majority of people who listen to his music. His main problem seems to be with the kind of projection you get from certain kinds of critics—"I like when this artist makes X in the way I expect them to make X and as a consumer I am entitled to that."
V-Snares also has a lot of fans who listen to him because of how edgy he is (which, to his credit, he has never fully subscribed to himself) or who are /mu/ shitposters that only care about music as a fashion statement, so I can understand his frustration about that.
I think most of the edginess is simply a consequence of Aaron Funk just being a strange person with a warped sense of humour. That people latch onto the shock element without coming at it from that angle or really getting or appreciating the subtler or more personal elements (cf. "Dad") must be really annoying to someone like that.
I'm actually looking forward to his cover of "Blank Space", TBH.
The rest of the songs will probably be a complete loss, but I think that's the one halfway-decent song Taylor Swift has ever been involved in, and I can't see how he couldn't improve on it.
that reminds me of the time i was in downtown Minneapolis and there was this super hipstery dude with a t-shirt featuring the cover of Mayhem's Dawn of the Black Hearts
I have seen the talent underlying her work even if I know that I am not the audience, but her work has become patchier in the last few years, with her worst and best work popping out at about the same time. At least, I suppose, her career is interesting from a pop trainspotting perspective.
Ryan Adams is a different matter. He seems to hold attitudes about music criticism that are way closer to what Mo thought VSnares was saying than VSnares does, and that is... yeeeeaaaah.
Eccentric, yes, but I will take eccentricity and ironic country music over dishwatery soft rock and having your entire discography taken off AllMusic via a legal threat.
I have no idea but wow, what a jackass. Unless it was his legal team acting independently, but the fact that he would sign off on such a thing even tacitly is telling.
Okay I've listened to enough "Thinking Out Loud", enough "What I Like About You", and other annoyingly unromantic romance songs. Well, okay, Sheeran's piece is romantic I just cannot stand him, and especially that song.
Tell me about some good songs, please, just list until your fingers break. Humorous a la "One More Minute" (easiest example off the top of my head), absurd, darker stuff (hateful, jealous, so on you get my drift), I especially don't mind. Something actually sweet, or lovingly twisted, whatever.
Crystal said:Okay I've listened to enough "Thinking Out Loud", enough "What I Like About You", and other annoyingly unromantic romance songs. Well, okay, Sheeran's piece is romantic I just cannot stand him, and especially that song. Tell me about some good songs, please, just list until your fingers break. Humorous a la "One More Minute" (easiest example off the top of my head), absurd, darker stuff (hateful, jealous, so on you get my drift), I especially don't mind. Something actually sweet, or lovingly twisted, whatever.
Any love song that Swans or Angels of Light have ever released probably fills the darkness quota while still being quite sincere—"Blood Promise", "Miracle of Love", "Nathalie Neal", the entire album How I Loved You—but if it is a certain wry humour you seek, look no further than The Magnetic Fields' 69 Love Songs. It is brilliant, although to be honest, I would start with something earlier of theirs: "100,000 Fireflies", their first single and still one of their best songs. It is one of my all-time favourite bittersweet love songs.
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Chillwave died at least partly because it wasn't much of a thing to begin with. It was a bunch of music writers acting like a trend was a genre. DSBM is more of a genre than chillwave.
The facts do not seem to support your opinion there, Jane.
Incidentally, I agree with him that using generalised ratings as a way to pre-judge music can screw with how you perceive it and maybe even steer you into a different opinion from what your personal taste might tell you. Furthermore, saying that you make music for your own enjoyment rather than to fit other people's tastes is pretty uncontroversial as a method for making art. Sure, saying that you do it outright can come off as belligerent or contrary, but most musicians are, in one way or another, pursuing an ideal of what they want to hear rather than some unicorn fantasy of what others desire in music like theirs, whatever that is.
Same rules apply unless you're a pop superstar or trying to be one, and even then.
(The other Jane)
Great song, by the way.
(The other Jane)
nice Emperor shirt
The rest of the songs will probably be a complete loss, but I think that's the one halfway-decent song Taylor Swift has ever been involved in, and I can't see how he couldn't improve on it.
Ryan Adams is a different matter. He seems to hold attitudes about music criticism that are way closer to what Mo thought VSnares was saying than VSnares does, and that is... yeeeeaaaah.
Guess what the word for "blue" is.
Tell me about some good songs, please, just list until your fingers break. Humorous a la "One More Minute" (easiest example off the top of my head), absurd, darker stuff (hateful, jealous, so on you get my drift), I especially don't mind. Something actually sweet, or lovingly twisted, whatever.
Any love song that Swans or Angels of Light have ever released probably fills the darkness quota while still being quite sincere—"Blood Promise", "Miracle of Love", "Nathalie Neal", the entire album How I Loved You—but if it is a certain wry humour you seek, look no further than The Magnetic Fields' 69 Love Songs. It is brilliant, although to be honest, I would start with something earlier of theirs: "100,000 Fireflies", their first single and still one of their best songs. It is one of my all-time favourite bittersweet love songs.