I think what Ray is trying to say here is that some of the conversations here have taken on a bit of a hegemonic "this idea is stupid and agreeing with it makes you stupid" timbre in the past, which I do not entirely disagree with.
So, through scrolling down the 'audio post' tag, I've found that my audio problem is certainly not mine alone. There's a good many whose audio posts are also borked.
I've never been one to complain about Tumblr updates, but this audio update is...kind of irresponsible.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
There seems to be a lot of gathering anger for various sources and directing it at Ms. Rowling. I mean...Harry Potter is about an British magic school, right? And the stories are basically about him and is British friends. So there was an asian person is as a love interest (this girl was only in one book right?) and she wasn't really developed well? Is that this woman's problem?
You know what other races weren't given a lot of page time? Pretty much all of them.
I'll grant that Asian actors are very under represented in western media, but that's hardly analogous to Rowling robbing Asians of their heritage.
There seems to be a lot of gathering anger for various sources and directing it at Ms. Rowling. I mean...Harry Potter is about an British magic school, right? And the stories are basically about him and is British friends. So there was an asian person is as a love interest (this girl was only in one book right?) and she wasn't really developed well? Is that this woman's problem?
She was in the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh.
She was developed quite well for a side character, and for that matter an "other" love interest.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Apparently the Asian woman up there played a character in like...four of the movies and now she's bitching about it because her character wasn't given enough time to extol the virtues of being Asian.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
i actually saw that gifset on my dash, thought it was pretty funny
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
Well, yes, but still. Being irritated about a name is one thing. "ROWLING IS AN EVIL RACIST AND FETISHIZES ASIANS AND I'M SUPER OFFENDED EVEN THOUGH I WILLINGLY PLAYED THE CHARACTER" is another.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
Well, yes, but still. Being irritated about a name is one thing. "ROWLING IS AN EVIL RACIST AND FETISHIZES ASIANS AND I'M SUPER OFFENDED EVEN THOUGH I WILLINGLY PLAYED THE CHARACTER" is another.
my understanding was that she was complaining that her character's name made no sense (the character in question is supposed to be Chinese and apparently has two Korean surnames for a name).
That would be reason to complain, but not necessarily reason to go into a diatribe about Rowland being part of the white agenda to misrepresent Asians in the media.
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
Well, yes, but still. Being irritated about a name is one thing. "ROWLING IS AN EVIL RACIST AND FETISHIZES ASIANS AND I'M SUPER OFFENDED EVEN THOUGH I WILLINGLY PLAYED THE CHARACTER" is another.
justin bieber threatened a photographer, had his monkey seized, illegally drew a tattoo saying “swaggy” alongside a mouse, and wrote “hopefully she would have been a belieber” in a guestbook dedicated to anne frank
this is the most interesting downward spiral i’ve ever seen
you forgot the time he wore overalls to meet the prime minister of Canada
justin bieber threatened a photographer, had his monkey seized, illegally drew a tattoo saying “swaggy” alongside a mouse, and wrote “hopefully she would have been a belieber” in a guestbook dedicated to anne frank
this is the most interesting downward spiral i’ve ever seen
you forgot the time he wore overalls to meet the prime minister of Canada
it seems to me that this is a good example of people assuming that other people guided by subtle cultural forces are actively aware that they are perpetuating harmful images/stereotypes/ect.
which is something that seems to happen a lot
it kinda reminds me of that one dude with the blog saying that the Nolan batman films deliberately support a facist worldview.
I would really need more context here before I could definitively determine what she meant.
I'm not even sure where this was said or what prompted it. She seems pretty angry in that gif and you'll note that people tend to not choose their words well when angry.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
it seems to me that this is a good example of people assuming that other people guided by subtle cultural forces are actively aware that they are perpetuating harmful images/stereotypes/ect.
which is something that seems to happen a lot
it kinda reminds me of that one dude with the blog saying that the Nolan batman films deliberately supported a facist worldview.
I remember Odradek posting some person who basically read the Nolan films as basically extolling the virtues of the white aristocracy.
I would really need more context here before I could definitively determine what she meant.
I'm not even sure where this was said or what prompted it. She seems pretty angry in that gif and you'll note that people tend to not choose their words well when angry.
it seems to me that this is a good example of people assuming that other people guided by subtle cultural forces are actively aware that they are perpetuating harmful images/stereotypes/ect.
which is something that seems to happen a lot
it kinda reminds me of that one dude with the blog saying that the Nolan batman films deliberately supported a facist worldview.
I remember Odradek posting some person who basically read the Nolan films as basically extolling the virtues of the white aristocracy.
I would really need more context here before I could definitively determine what she meant.
I'm not even sure where this was said or what prompted it. She seems pretty angry in that gif and you'll note that people tend to not choose their words well when angry.
I'm wondering where this is taking place. I'm guessing she isn't at some sort of wrap up party for the films...I'm thinking she's some where where this a bunch of other minorities who are angry about portrayals in the media and is trying a little to hard to jump on a bandwagon.
I could be mistaken though, maybe she just showed up to an Olive Garden and felt the patrons should show more awareness of Asians in the media.
More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
For one thing...
Cho is a Chinese and Korean surname. As a Japanese given name it is derived from the word chou, meaning “butterfly”.[8] Chang is a common Chinese family name meaning “free” or “unhindered”. In Chinese, chou chang means “melancholy”.[9] This may allude to Cho's fragile emotional state following Cedric Diggory's murder. Cho may also be an English variant of her given name chou, meaning autumn. In the Mandarin translations of Harry Potter, the name "Cho Chang" is translated into "Zhang Qiu"[张秋] (in Chinese, surnames come before the first name), with "Zhang" being a common Chinese surname and a variant of the name "Chang", and "Qiu" meaning "autumn". If Cho were the surname: Cho/Cao 曹.As the name Cho Chang is considered to be Chinese, the Mandarin translation may give a hint as to what the name may mean.
part of the gifset just showed up on my dash again and there was a very interesting response to it
I am Chinese, I grew up in Guangdong and now live in Beijing. My surname is Yang (杨/楊 in simplified/traditional Chinese characters). And allow me, a born-and-raised-and-live-in-China Chinese, not so humbly inform you: Both Cho and Chang ARE Chinese words pronounced in the Cantonese dialect (the major dialect spoken in Guangdong and Hong Kong), and they are written as 秋 (or any homophones) and 张/張 in Chinese characters. Ask any Cantonese-speaking Chinese, and they’ll tell you this. And SURPRISE: both Cho and Chang can be used as first name AND last name in Chinese.
To sum it up: The girl speaking in this gifset clearly has NO knowledge at all of Chinese language, and is acting very presumptuous about it. And to me, that is a case of racism.
EDIT: Quoting from wikipedia, “Chang is the pinyin romanization of the Chinese surname 常 (Cháng). It was listed 80th among the Song-era Hundred Family Surnames” and “is also the Wade-Giles romanization of two Chinese surnames written Zhang in pinyin: one extremely common and written 張 in traditional characters and 张 in simplified characters and another quite rare and written as 章 in both systems.”
it seems to me that this is a good example of people assuming that other people guided by subtle cultural forces are actively aware that they are perpetuating harmful images/stereotypes/ect.
which is something that seems to happen a lot
it kinda reminds me of that one dude with the blog saying that the Nolan batman films deliberately supported a facist worldview.
I remember Odradek posting some person who basically read the Nolan films as basically extolling the virtues of the white aristocracy.
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I've never been one to complain about Tumblr updates, but this audio update is...kind of irresponsible.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I think it's pretty hard to argue that the majority of western media doesn't just treat "asian" as a vague blob rather than a group of very distinct cultures and ethnicities.
That is not an "agenda", but it's certainly insensitive, and I'd be pissed off too.
you forgot the time he wore overalls to meet the prime minister of Canada
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Would you stop doing that?
I see a lot of anger here, but I do not see any particular implication of some sort of mass conspiracy.
Granted, it is rather strange that she'd agree to play the character in the first place, but people do change their minds about things.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I would really need more context here before I could definitively determine what she meant.
I'm not even sure where this was said or what prompted it. She seems pretty angry in that gif and you'll note that people tend to not choose their words well when angry.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I remember Odradek posting some person who basically read the Nolan films as basically extolling the virtues of the white aristocracy.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis