The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    I mean from the Wikiped page, evidently written by an understandably salty fan:


    To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar is stated as the most deserved album to win the Album of the Year, but then he lost to 1989 by Taylor Swift. Many critics stated that the win of Taylor Swift is not deserved than To Pimp a Butterfly, and this loss is stated as the most shocked loss of Grammy Awards.[18][19][20]




    It's true, though. A lot of people were truly pissed about that.

    Kexruct said:

    I disagree because the Oscars's history of naming movies with a big cinematic gimmick Best Picture is pretty well known? I honestly don't know what else I can say here, the idea that people retroactively called it Oscar bait is just absurd to me and it strikes me as a disingenuous assertion on Myr's part.

    Like I could not for the life of me explain what Myr's opinion on the movie itself is, beyond knowing that he probably likes it. But I absolutely know that he likes the *idea* of a film taking potshots at superhero movies, and I know he thinks that it's been retroactively hated by the nerd press because of some convoluted nerd reason.

    I have no idea what I could possibly contend with there; it's just pretenses stacked on pretenses without any real discussion of Birdman, or even really an examination of the reaction to it/its impact beyond Myr just being vaguely discontent.

    Nerd press doesn't talk about Birdman much, and the hate was just a subdued thing that barely outlasted the Oscars

    FWIW my twitter feed at the time seemed to line up to some degree with what Myr is saying.

    Not surprised about these things.
  • Kexruct said:

    Distaste can be increased after a major win but I... really doubt anyone's opinion on a film would completely reverse after a Best Picture win? That just doesn't make any sense to me.

    no but people who were otherwise mum on the subject might decide to speak up after it won, which could create the illusion of people on the whole suddenly changing opinions.
  • I should really make a library account for this website.

    I am still there and don't want to accidentally click on any of the nsfw category threads.
  • My point exactly! It looked like Myr was saying that people legitimately were changing the opinions or pppppffffft I don't even know
  • I'm OK

    I was overly affectionate with sredni and then I ate some food and watched people play dnd
  • I'm OK

    I was overly affectionate with sredni and then I ate some food and watched people play dnd

    did they slay the dragon
  • I don't know why I bother with this, I'll stop before I start visibly freaking out and people get mad
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It's cool
  • edited 2016-03-11 21:28:24

    Jane said:

    I'm OK

    I was overly affectionate with sredni and then I ate some food and watched people play dnd

    did they slay the dragon
    they fought a genuinely disturbing silent hill creature and the bard tried to insult it and ended up being a misogynistic asshole because he always is and then the whole party got mad at him and so the bard tried to pin his behavior on the monster "being a chauvinist" and then the beloved bear animal companion almost died and there were "this is a grizzly situation" puns and yeah
  • edited 2016-03-11 21:29:39
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Kexruct said:

    Distaste can be increased after a major win
    but I... really doubt anyone's opinion on a film would completely
    reverse after a Best Picture win? That just doesn't make any sense to
    me.

    I don't really think it was the same people expressing the two opinions. The win understandably changed who felt like being loud.

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    idk I remember a lot of people being pretty upset that literally every muslim in the film is a terrorist
    I dunno. Most of what I heard suggests it's basically a chamber piece about someone who just plain did not interact with Muslims outside of hostile contexts and was probably a racist on some level, and whose experiences arguably made him a worse person—which, I am told, the film does not shy away from.

    Presenting a perspective without adornment does not indicate sympathy with the perspective. It simply indicates that you find the person with the perspective interesting enough to follow around.
    Jane said:

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    this is literally the first time I have heard American Sniper described as anything other than a propaganda film.
    See above.
  • So OK tangential from this conversation I am actually now looking at the stuff that was nominated for Grammys this past awards and what the actual heck.

    "Back To Back" by Drake? Not even "Hotline Bling" which was everywhere, or "Charged Up" which people like, but "Back To Back"?

    And "All Day" which is like a profoundly OK Kanye song. 

    "Trap Queen" deserves to be on there, and "Alright" by Kendrick won, which is about right. There's also a J. Cole song and "Truffle Butter" by Nicki on here, which are at least good songs, but hardly the epitome of hip-hop this past year.
  • the number one thing I remember about American Sniper was the amazingly fake baby
  • Kexruct said:

    Distaste can be increased after a major win
    but I... really doubt anyone's opinion on a film would completely
    reverse after a Best Picture win? That just doesn't make any sense to
    me.

    I don't really think it was the same people expressing the two opinions. The win understandably changed who felt like being loud.

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    idk I remember a lot of people being pretty upset that literally every muslim in the film is a terrorist
    I dunno. Most of what I heard suggests it's basically a chamber piece about someone who just plain did not interact with Muslims outside of hostile contexts and was probably a racist on some level, and whose experiences arguably made him a worse person—which, I a told, the film does not shy away from.

    Presenting a perspective without adornment does not indicate sympathy with the perspective. It simply indicates that you find the person with the perspective interesting enough to follow around.
    Jane said:

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    this is literally the first time I have heard American Sniper described as anything other than a propaganda film.
    See above.
    that makes sense on a surface level but Clint Eastwood is like super right-wing.

    This is perhaps a case where knowing more about the artist actually makes the art less enjoyable. In any case though, I haven't seen the film, and do not plan to.
  • Jane said:

    I'm OK

    I was overly affectionate with sredni and then I ate some food and watched people play dnd

    did they slay the dragon
    they fought a genuinely disturbing silent hill creature and the bard tried to insult it and ended up being a misogynistic asshole because he always is and then the whole party got mad at him and so the bard tried to pin his behavior on the monster "being a chauvinist" and then the beloved bear animal companion almost died and there were "this is a grizzly situation" puns and yeah
    Sounds unbearable.
  • Scanlan the bard is the best Critical Role character because he absolutely nails the "guy who thinks he's hot with the ladies but is just a sleeze with no sex appeal" thing and also every time he uses his bard abilities he butchers a pop song to do so

    so you get the whole party clapping along IRL while he heals the mind flayer theyve teamed up with with a supremely awkward reinterpretation of Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing
  • I'm going to get other people here to watch this eventually
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    Kexruct said:

    Distaste can be increased after a major win
    but I... really doubt anyone's opinion on a film would completely
    reverse after a Best Picture win? That just doesn't make any sense to
    me.

    I don't really think it was the same people expressing the two opinions. The win understandably changed who felt like being loud.

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    idk I remember a lot of people being pretty upset that literally every muslim in the film is a terrorist
    I dunno. Most of what I heard suggests it's basically a chamber piece about someone who just plain did not interact with Muslims outside of hostile contexts and was probably a racist on some level, and whose experiences arguably made him a worse person—which, I a told, the film does not shy away from.

    Presenting a perspective without adornment does not indicate sympathy with the perspective. It simply indicates that you find the person with the perspective interesting enough to follow around.
    Jane said:

    There's also American Sniper, which got a nomination because anything Clint Eastwood directs is automatically guaranteed a nomination nowadays, but which nobody seriously thought would win other than right-wing pundits.

    A lot of more left-leaning critics really liked it, too, and I think most people agreed that it did a good job of painting this difficult, complicated person in a fair light that neither entirely glamourised nor demonised him by just showing him as someone who, right or wrong, thought that he was doing his job and that his job was important.
    this is literally the first time I have heard American Sniper described as anything other than a propaganda film.
    See above.
    that makes sense on a surface level but Clint Eastwood is like super right-wing.

    This is perhaps a case where knowing more about the artist actually makes the art less enjoyable. In any case though, I haven't seen the film, and do not plan to.
    Ehhhh, Eastwood isn't that simple. He's against the Iraq War, and while he may think the guy was a hero, I think he's smart enough to realise that there's a lot of grey there, and again, my sources indicate that the script changes as it goes on, with the implication that the protagonist is suffering from untreated PTSD and unable to cope with the fact that the war he was fighting in began under false pretences.
  • :shrug:

    I dunno. The reason I'm not going to watch it is not that I think it's probably not something I'd enjoy (although I am like 95% sure I wouldn't), but rather because that would require me to sit down and view a film of my own volition, which we all know is impossible.
  • kill living beings
    I could quietly
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    That is fair.

    I just wanted to clarify that not watching it or assuming it's propaganda because Clint Eastwood is right-wing seems misguided to me, partly because how the other side looks at things can be informative, and partly because Clint Eastwood's politics aren't really conventionally conservative at all, particularly when it comes to the military.
  • I hope I can leave soon, I like the library and all but my back is startin to hurt from sitting in this tiny wooden chair they have at the computer table.

    Also we're apparently doing something for my birthday tonight but I don't know what.

    Unrelated, I actually really want that Slim Shady LP cassette reissue despite not being a huge Em fan, is this what it's like to be a hipster?
  • I guess I could actually like go and look for a book to check out but I haven't actually sat down and read a novel in ages so I'm not sure where I'd start.

    idk they seem to want me to get off the computer, they're funny about that sort of thing here.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jane said:

    Unrelated, I actually really want that Slim Shady LP cassette reissue despite not being a huge Em fan, is this what it's like to be a hipster?
    Yes and no. But I think it would be kinda cool to have, in all honesty. I love cassettes, despite not having our cassette player set up...
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Is it a pretty library?
  • Playing The Sims 3, and I have an alien baby.

    At least I think it's a alien baby. It's got the alien skin, but I won't tell until it grows into a toddler.
  • Crystal said:

    Is it a pretty library?

    eh 7/10

    I'm home now and my mom just found out she's quite possibly been a victim of identity theft, so we're having quite the evening.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I think Rifftrax is pretty funny
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My plane ride tomorrow is scheduled at 3:30 PM, which is obscene and selfish on my dad's part
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Three hour time difference!

    Four hour flight!

    I need to go back to school on monday!

    DO THE MATH
  • edited 2016-03-11 22:30:32
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'm reading about Clint Eastwood now and I am experiencing mad respect. Endorsing John McCain was a terrible idea, but, like, he does everything—acts, directs, writes films, composes and performs music in multiple genres, was the mayor of a small seaside town—and he's actually really intelligent and more than a bit weird. Even the chair thing makes sense in retrospect, even if everyone, including him, thinks he completely fucked it up.
  • edited 2016-03-11 22:40:41
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    I'm reading about Clint Eastwood now and I am experiencing mad respect. Endorsing John McCain was a terrible idea, but, like, he does everything—acts, directs, writes films, composes and performs music in multiple genres, was the mayor of a small seaside town—and he's actually really intelligent and more than a bit weird. Even the chair thing makes sense in retrospect, even if everyone, including him, thinks he completely fucked it up.

    Oddly enough, he has the same sort of political philosophy that you would expect the The Man With No Name to have if he gave any serious thought towards politics.

    He can also be forgiven on the McCain endorsement since McCain seemed like a perfectly respectable politician before he sold his soul in 2008.

    There's no excuse for his Romney endorsement, unfortunately.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I am officially now on Spring Break. LAZY TIME!
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    If I stole all your money, would that make you Spring Broke?
  • Lazy time, come on grab your friends, we won't go anywhere but the couch
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    If I stole all your money, would that make you Spring Broke?

    That would only work if I had any money to steal in the first place, so...


    Haven said:

    Lazy time, come on grab your friends, we won't go anywhere but the couch

    I smiled.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    image
  • huh, guy in the dead center looks like a younger yet schlubbier version of my dad
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    What a wonderful pagetopper. And oh my.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    From the looks on their faces, I am assuming that is a show about a family of serial killers.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    When does it turn into Too Many Cooks
  • edited 2016-03-12 00:31:30
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    If only.
    image
    I look forward to watching the sequel, Fullest House, in 23 years, as I begin it all again.

    I can only assume this somehow leads back to House, because that's the best interpretation.

    ^ I'm half-tempted to run under the assumption that DJ also doubles as a contract killer.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    why are they using two children to portray one child
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    why are they using two children to portray one child

    Because the original series did that with Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen playing Michelle.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    why are they using two children to portray one child

    Because that's what the original did and by gum if the original did it we gotta do it too.

    The original did it because of what Yarrun said.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Child labor laws

    why are they using two children to portray one child

    Because the original series did that with Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen playing Michelle.
    These are both true
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