The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I think having a four-digit year is perfectly reasonable, mostly because who knows how long is this internet thing going to last?
  • edited 2016-02-18 06:18:45
    kill living beings
    look babe, if you want to program something based on human life expectancy statistics and "iffiness" to save you typing two digits, be my guest, but i ain't gonna
  • considering the fact that you're an ageless princess goddess it would seem that their concerns were well grounded, eh?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    considering the fact that you're an ageless princess goddess it would seem that their concerns were well grounded, eh?

    point


    look babe, if you want to program something based on human life expectancy numbers and "iffiness" to save you typing two digits, be my guest, but i ain't gonna

    i dunno, i mean i guess it makes sense that nobody wants to try to commit that to code, but at the same time...it's one of those issues that's frustrating because a computer needs me to spell out something that would be obvious to a human interpreting the same input.

    if i write "8/10/90" on a piece of paper, the person reading it is going to understand that the only reasonable interpretation is 1990. the computer needs to explicitly be told that. >_<
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    well what about people who are going to be born in 2090?
  • kill living beings
    yeah i actually have problems with that. i read a lot of history and scifi, and they're all like "49ers" and i'm like oh god
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Anonus said:

    well what about people who are going to be born in 2090?

    if i were going write code to interpret two-digit dates, the range wouldn't be fixed, it would be based on the current date. by 2100 or so, it would be assuming "90" means 2090 because most people born in 1990 are dead.

    that said, i can see why, as tzetze said, you really wouldn't want to bother with such a program.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ...see, now I'm wondering how Microsoft Excel does it, because it seems to interpret two-digit years as belonging to one century or another by default...
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Of course computers need to be explicitly told that. Computers don't live in a particular century in the way we do.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Microsoft said:

    By default, Excel determines the century by using a cutoff year of 2029 [...]

    The article I found this in is for Excel 2000 to 2007; I'm guessing they changed this in recent versions because 2029 isn't that far away anymore...
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    MachSpeed said:

    Of course computers need to be explicitly told that. Computers don't live in a particular century in the way we do.

    I mean, it makes sense.

    It's just frustrating when we rely on computers for things that can be done easier with a bit of human intuition.
  • kill living beings

    ...see, now I'm wondering how Microsoft Excel does it, because it seems to interpret two-digit years as belonging to one century or another by default...

    looks dumb
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Well, a human can't memorize and spit out enormous amounts of data, because if they could, a very small pygmy with wires jacked up their ass would be sitting on this table right now.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Actually the very small pygmy would probably be me. And someone else would be living in this house.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    Microsoft said:

    By default, Excel determines the century by using a cutoff year of 2029 [...]

    The article I found this in is for Excel 2000 to 2007; I'm guessing they changed this in recent versions because 2029 isn't that far away anymore...
    Nope! Tried it in Excel 2016. "1/1/30" still comes out to "1/1/1930".

    This seems to be another example of "this was designed 25 years ago and we didn't see that people would still be using this code so much later, but now people rely on it so we have to keep it this way for compatibility"
  • kill living beings
    what the fuck kind of nerd plans anything fifteen years ahead
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    movie studio execs contemplating reboots of contemporary movie successes
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Incidentally, I like that the Office 2016 programs are version 16.0

    It's a neat coincidence in that they didn't have to fudge it...beyond all the version number fudging they did back in the '90s, at least
  • Morning

    My illness has definitely finally caught up with me.
  • I have such severe anxiety over oversleeping that I've developed a habit of waking up and just shouting "FUCK" on instinct
  • Kexruct said:

    I have such severe anxiety over oversleeping that I've developed a habit of waking up and just shouting "FUCK" on instinct

    I do something similar where I say "fuck" because I have to get out of bed and do things.
  • It's usually followed by that, of course
  • So you go:

    *wakes up*
    FUCK.
    *checks time*
    Oh, fuck.
  • Best part of waking up is FUCKSHIT in your cup.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    waking up is a bad thing, it is agreed
  • kill living beings
    gendarmery
  • edited 2016-02-18 17:00:41
    Most real-life sociopaths, far from living glamorous and powerful lives, usually grow up in lower-class urban backgrounds and come from abusive households. They generally don't tend to hold jobs for very long because, as it turns out, poor impulse control and pathological lying are not skills conducive to climbing social ladders. They're more to be pitied than anything.

    The kind of sociopath we see in American Psycho is a purely hypothetical construct, and we likely lack very valuable data about those kinds of people (if they exist at all).
  • In the walk in centre because I fainted twice today.

    Fun times.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Isn't sociopathy just another mental illness?
  • Acererak said:

    Most real-life sociopaths, far from living glamorous and powerful lives, usually grow up in lower-class urban backgrounds and come from abusive households. They generally don't tend to hold jobs for very long because, as it turns out, poor impulse control and pathological lying are not skills conducive to climbing social ladders. They're more to be pitied than anything.


    The kind of sociopath we see in American Psycho is a purely hypothetical construct, and we likely lack very valuable data about those kinds of people (if they exist at all).
    I don't think they'd be crazymurderers but I would not be for a second surprised if there were rich, successful people with diagnosable Antisocial Personality Disorder. The level of cackling evil a lot of rich people do sometimes for no reason has never ceased to amaze me

  • meow meow meowtherfuckers
    neighbors have been playing loud music all day to the point that my bed is vibrating so i am playing retaliatory weird j-rock 
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I'm back(nobody noticed I was gone)
  • well that seems unlikely given that when someone is probated there's a note there right on top of the activity page
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    do you really have any cats
  • edited 2016-02-19 00:04:14
    meow meow meowtherfuckers
    no, i'm an impostor that got that sound off the internet  (yes, i have cats)
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    i just wondered if somehow the music got distorted
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I was joking most people probably did
  • image

    gonna start a gofundme to get me the 1600 dollars to aquire this jacket
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    1600 is way too much for a jacket imo
  • edited 2016-02-19 02:59:00
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Man on moon:  Possible, let's spend millions of dollars on it.

    Three-dimensional printing:  Possible, let's spend millions of dollars on it.

    Water-less instant shower: Impossible, and impractical.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    well, there is the "sonic shower"...on Star Trek, anyway.
  • I'm awake... For now

    After yesterday, the doctor told me to spend the day in bed
  • Kexruct said:

    Acererak said:

    Most real-life sociopaths, far from living glamorous and powerful lives, usually grow up in lower-class urban backgrounds and come from abusive households. They generally don't tend to hold jobs for very long because, as it turns out, poor impulse control and pathological lying are not skills conducive to climbing social ladders. They're more to be pitied than anything.


    The kind of sociopath we see in American Psycho is a purely hypothetical construct, and we likely lack very valuable data about those kinds of people (if they exist at all).
    I don't think they'd be crazymurderers but I would not be for a second surprised if there were rich, successful people with diagnosable Antisocial Personality Disorder. The level of cackling evil a lot of rich people do sometimes for no reason has never ceased to amaze me

    Oh, definitely. I believe that such people exist too. 
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