The Landfill of the Heapers' Hangout (contains Fossilmaiden's Punnery)

glennmagusharvey

smart aleck responses

"Have you ever filled up your computer storage?"

"No, that wouldn't hold water well."

"What do you watch your anime on?"

"A screen."

"What's your favorite music?"

"Music that I like to listen to."

glennmagusharvey

unfortunately they are so absolutely useless meaningwise

but they are fun if shitposting is the order of the day

because they require some sort of atypical thinking to come up with

glennmagusharvey

@Tachyon, who was/were your favorite character(s) in madomagi?

Tachyon

initially Sayaka, but later Madoka and Homura

Did you have a favourite, or favourites?

glennmagusharvey

Homura, and Kyouko to a lesser extent

Sayaka somewhat, initially, but less so later

Mami and Madoka were, comparatively, just there

glennmagusharvey

"Also in addition to it having pedestrian direction, Karin's sacrifice is
undermined by it being allowed to happen because of one of the most
offensively low effort bulljive contrivances I've seen."

(from another forum, and not a response to me, but just that my response is something i don't care to post there)

but madoka kaname's deus ex machina was really bullshit too

edit: never mind i'm posting it [/flamebait]

glennmagusharvey

glennmagusharvey said:

but madoka kaname's deus ex machina was really bullshit too

and so was the entire setting

glennmagusharvey

(unrelated)
what if i am homura

glennmagusharvey

note: not "what if i were homura"

but "what if i am homura"

glennmagusharvey

@Tachyon: do you find it weird for someone to identify with and/or empathize with homura?

SF_Sorrow

glennmagusharvey

Ooh, ideas for Castlevania monsters.

lee4hmz

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glennmagusharvey

spearmint cost only wood and food, no gold

glennmagusharvey

WOLOLO

Tachyon

glennmagusharvey said:

@Tachyon: do you find it weird for someone to identify with and/or empathize with homura?

no, of course not

she's a much more sympathetic character than she first appears

Tachyon

i feel weird talking about this show now because my memories of parts of it are hazy

at the time it really was one of very, very few things that affected me on a level i'd tentatively call spiritual, so i resent 'bullshit' but i have no defence to offer

Calica

Tachyon said:

madoka magica is one of the best shows i have ever watched, i mean that quite seriously

(i haven't seen anything past the end of the series, just the show itself)

rebellion story, the third movie, is definitely worth watching

Calica

i have some opinions on the ending but i'm going to go get food first

glennmagusharvey

Tachyon said:

i feel weird talking about this show now because my memories of parts of it are hazy

at the time it really was one of very, very few things that affected me on a level i'd tentatively call spiritual, so i resent 'bullshit' but i have no defence to offer

sorry about that

if it helps any, i feel the same way when other people speak similarly of stories i find spiritually inspiring or something of similar magnitude

glennmagusharvey

thing is i end up talking madomagi so much
since other people talk about it
it creates the illusion that it's one of my favorite shows and that i'm really into it and/or the genre it subverts (magical girls)
and i'm neither

glennmagusharvey

but no one ever even talks about uta~kata or umi monogatari

people do seem to remember nanoha but no one regards that as highly impressive/awesome/epic/etc. anymore

Tachyon

i never saw Nanoha... i remember a lot of people complaining about it

when i was a kid i liked Cardcaptor Sakura (the mangled dub, which was slightly less mangled in the ITV broadcast in that they at least showed all the episodes)

i saw a little Sailor Moon, that was ok

Tachyon

Do you like Uta~Kata or Umi Monogatari?

i don't know them.

Princess Alice

Welcome to Salem, Centralia

Speed Limit 40 km/h unless otherwise posted

Tachyon

Why that name?

glennmagusharvey

Tachyon said:

Do you like Uta~Kata or Umi Monogatari?

i don't know them.

yes, i do

Uta~Kata is basically the closest thing to a direct predecessor to madomago in spirit
Umi Monogatari (a.k.a. Sea Story, no relation to "-monogatari" series) is another magical girl story that deals with its themes in very mature ways

Tachyon

Sounds interesting.  i should check those out some time.

glennmagusharvey

i found both of them more emotionally moving than madomagi

i think madomagi would have been better if they used more subtlety

e.g. more subtlety in introducing the audience to the setting/premise

glennmagusharvey

i think i would have enjoyed madomagi more if i felt like i discovered the themes on my own, rather than then being splashed at me up front

i jave a love hate relationship with madomagi b/c i want(ed) to enjoy it but it just didn't come out right for some reason

and i've wasted so much time trying to figure out why

glennmagusharvey

(unrelated) the world does not run on event flags

Tachyon

it was less subtle than i was expecting, yes

the darkness was already extremely obvious even in the first episode, but maybe that's because i'd already had the thing about Mami's head spoiled and knew it was coming, so i was more attuned to possible indicators of darkness than i might otherwise have been

and the characters irritated me at one point because i figured the deal with the soul gems the moment they were introduced and was confused as to why the characters didn't realize how important they were

otoh i feel like the twists and turns are kind of beside the point in a show like Madoka Magica, what matters are the character arcs and those were strong and tied together thematically in a way that was compelling and meaningful

Tachyon

it plays out like a tragedy in the traditional dramatic sense

greater emotional subtlety would imo have detracted from the catharsis

Princess Alice

Tachyon said:

Why that name?

I don't remember. It was something I came up with in a bout of sleep deprivation some months ago.

I imagined it as a suburb of Queen City, near the old Cloverleaf Mall...

Tachyon

You should draw a map.

Tachyon

Rules provide us with COMFORT

Rules keep us SAFE

Rules bring us PROSPERITY

OBEY

An AUTHORITY which is not OBEYED is NO AUTHORITY AT ALL

A life without AUTHORITY is a life without DIRECTION

A life without DIRECTION is a life without PURPOSE

Freedom without PURPOSE is AIMLESS, WANDERING NIHILISM

SUBMISSION IS FREEDOM

OBEDIENCE IS PURPOSE

ALL ARE EQUAL BEFORE THE RULE OF LAW

Princess Alice

Tachyon said:

You should draw a map.

I wish I could, but I lack a sense of scale

I'm aware this is a problem what with the whole "aspiring engineer" thing

Tachyon

i imagine it comes with practice.

glennmagusharvey

Tachyon said:

it was less subtle than i was expecting, yes

the darkness was already extremely obvious even in the first episode, but maybe that's because i'd already had the thing about Mami's head spoiled and knew it was coming, so i was more attuned to possible indicators of darkness than i might otherwise have been

and the characters irritated me at one point because i figured the deal with the soul gems the moment they were introduced and was confused as to why the characters didn't realize how important they were

otoh i feel like the twists and turns are kind of beside the point in a show like Madoka Magica, what matters are the character arcs and those were strong and tied together thematically in a way that was compelling and meaningful

I think I agree with you on everything in that post except the last paragraph

Tachyon said:

it plays out like a tragedy in the traditional dramatic sense

greater emotional subtlety would imo have detracted from the catharsis

^ I agree that "it plays out like a tragedy" in the sense of using the twists and turns -- as well as the characters -- like set-pieces

but i feel that that made it more distant and made it less emotionally accessible

and i didn't like that

glennmagusharvey

i have a slight problem

i am accumulating TF2 keys as tradeable commodities on Steam

however

i am increasingly looking elsewhere other than Steam to buy games

glennmagusharvey

NOTE: I am not interested in trading those keys for TF2 cosmetics

Tachyon

i wouldn't want all shows to be like that, but i think within the context of a tightly-written plot that constructedness payed off.

glennmagusharvey

but the constructedness prevents me from relating to the characters and feeling their struggles

i merely observe them

like i observe sayaka gradually going nuts but i don't feel it

and that is a serious flaw

Obā-san

to you

glennmagusharvey

yes it is a serious flaw to me

YMMV

Tachyon

yeah

i can't argue with that, obviously we experienced the show differently

if it was a failure to me, p much every other show failed me worse

glennmagusharvey

well i found kiddy grade to have an intensely inspiring narrative

and most people...well, most people probably haven't even seen it

Tachyon

i saw something from it.

i remember space ships.

Tachyon

If i watch it and it turns out to be, at least in my estimations, utter shite, will that upset you?

i would imagine not because i am not you and my interests are not yours but just asking

Princess Alice

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