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Sredni Vashtar · 2013-01-16 01:35:04

I think that it's kind of important to look at Björk's music from a whole-album perspective rather than a song-by-song one, even if those songs are exceptional on their own.

I'm not sure what album to recommend you listen to, though. Vespertine is probably my favourite, but it has a very particular, very strange sound to it; Post is more varied, but less coherent and consistent; and Debut is very accessible, but at points far too straightforward.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-01-16 01:36:40

maybe I will at some point, thank you for the suggestions.

Obā-san · 2013-01-16 01:39:26

it's not the most common opinion, but Biophilia is my fave Bjork album.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-01-16 01:42:42

elsewhere

>DJ Food feat. The Orb & Cold-Cut

hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit

Obā-san · 2013-01-16 01:44:16

DJ Food has done stuff with J.G. Thirlwell

Tachyon · 2013-01-16 01:44:46

Mojave Music said:
holy shit the little bit of editing they do to "I Don't Like" makes the song so much more tolerable.

Finally got to that part. Their mix is good.

i didn't see what was so bad about the original, though.

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-01-16 01:45:08

I have not heard Biophilia yet. This makes me sad.

Then again, I haven't heard Bish Bosch yet, either...

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-01-16 01:45:32

Naney said:
DJ Food has done stuff with J.G. Thirlwell

Sounds worthy.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-01-16 01:46:09

a8 said:

Mojave Music said:
holy shit the little bit of editing they do to "I Don't Like" makes the song so much more tolerable.
Finally got to that part. Their mix is good.

i didn't see what was so bad about the original, though.

well, the remix (with Kanye West, Pusha T, and Jadakiss) is already more tolerable than Chief Keef (who does the hook and has the most simplistic verse) by himself on the original.

also I don't understand how Yung Chop is successful as a producer and I'm not. -.-

I'm not caring so much for the song by Sasha Go-Hard and the Zebrakatz one that follows it though.

Naney said:
DJ Food has done stuff with J.G. Thirlwell

yeah but I absolutely adore both The Orb and Coldcut.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-01-16 01:49:35

Yarrun XIX · 2013-01-16 01:50:49

It's so beautiful

Salix Babylonika · 2013-01-16 01:52:16

oh got-damn they put "Higher Ground" on here and mixed it with the "Rooster in my 'Rari" remix

REACHIN FOR HIGH REACHIN FOR HIGH REACHIN FOR HIGH DUN DUN DUN DUN DUNUHNUHNUH

Yarrun said:
It's so beautiful

what is?

Justice4243 · 2013-01-17 02:34:32

WHO WANTS TO SHOT UP MARIJUANA WITH ME?!

Manly McMacho · 2013-01-17 02:50:33

not me, I only snort black tar marijuana nao

Salix Babylonika · 2014-11-17 03:08:35

this thread is almost two years old already huh

Yarrun XIX · 2014-11-17 11:59:50

Yarrun XIX said:
It's so beautiful

I have no idea

Viani · 2017-07-14 06:39:08

This troper was a Smug Snake in the past, but recently graduated in stats. It was in a combat based MMORPG with my Kingdom Hearts themed OC. What really bothers me, is how much I enjoyed hurting them! I don't bite, much!

glennmagusharvey · 2017-07-14 06:51:14

this thread has apparently existed for years and i have not yet crawled in my skin and not healed wounds in this thread

...then again tbf that's the most boring and predictable response to the term "dark and edgy"

oh jt got necro'd by vorpy
i guess necromancy is dark and edgy

Obā-san · 2017-07-14 06:53:03

wrong thread

Sredni Vashtar · 2017-07-18 14:00:34

Subterranean musick for a subterranean thread.

Viani · 2017-07-20 21:37:29

Edit: I never meant to post this in the dark and edgy thread but glad you guys worked it out!

Thanks!

Yarrun XIX · 2017-07-20 21:37:56

Is she the one who debated Sargon?

SF_Sorrow · 2017-07-20 21:42:31

it would be good to show the full context here

glennmagusharvey · 2017-07-20 21:46:45

is it just me or does anyone else feel that it's going a bit overboard to say that one should not call a penis a "male sex organ"/"male genitals"/"male genitalia" just because it's on someone who does not identify as male? i mean, going by this reasoning, one could say that a preserved specimen penis or a wax model of a penis should not be called a "male sex organ" because it's not attached to something that identifies as any gender...

i mean, hell, the way sexes are defined scientifically is by what supplies the cells that transmit or receive genetic matter, so we have a "female penis" that's properly called an ovipositor because it deposits cells that receive genetic material, despite looking like a phallus, and properly not called a penis because it does not deposit cells that transmit genetic material to other cells for reproductive purposes.

and so the penis, as an organ that transmits sperm, identifies male sex.

i guess one could say that "male sex organ" contains the phrase "male sex" which qualifies it to be referring to sex as opposed to gender, while "male genitals" does not contain that phrase and also contains something that sounds a bit like the word "gender" which is different from "sex", though it's pretty well recognized that "genitalia" = "genitals" = "sex organs" = "primary sex characteristics"

SF_Sorrow · 2017-07-20 21:56:27

no, it's not

she was saying that solely equating 'penis' with 'maleness' in the name of 'biology' is just another way of how people attempt to delegitimize those who have penises that don't identify as male

Tatterhood · 2017-07-20 22:46:16

glennmagusharvey said:
is it just me or does anyone else feel that it's going a bit overboard to say that one should not call a penis a "male sex organ"/"male genitals"/"male genitalia" just because it's on someone who does not identify as male? i mean, going by this reasoning, one could say that a preserved specimen penis or a wax model of a penis should not be called a "male sex organ" because it's not attached to something that identifies as any gender...

The issue is that if what you actually mean is a penis, why are you saying "male genitals" instead of "penis"? Whether or not you are intending to make the statement that everyone with a penis is male, insisting on using that terminology when it's completely unnecessary has that implication. Especially if (since I'm fairly certain this is an offshoot of the whole Laci Green thing) you're already known for being shitty to trans people.

Also, a wax model of a penis is not a male sex organ, on account of how it's not in fact a sex organ. And if you insist on calling it a "wax model of a male sex organ" the question is again why you feel like using a phrase with twice as many syllables that has no semantic difference except possibly making trans people uncomfortable.

For that matter, insisting on distinguishing sex vs gender and taking great pleasure into saying trans women are "of the male sex" even though they have "female gender identity" also means you're a dick, regardless of whether or not one is defining terms such that that's technically correct.

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 22:51:49

why would you call it a "male sex organ" anyway? it's a penis. i mean regardless of trans issues i would just not use this phrase.

i might, might, use "male genitalia" to refer to the reproductive system in aggregate, but that doesn't happen that much. maybe if i was a urologist.

Tatterhood · 2017-07-20 22:54:49

Right, that's exactly my point. As best I can tell there is no actual reason to insist on saying "male sex organ" other than to intentionally upset trans people.

Yarrun XIX · 2017-07-20 23:03:19

The male/female dinglestick

The male/female meat cannon

The male/female one-eyed snake

The male/female bacon rod

The male/female burrowing bishop

Huh. When you use euphemisms to remove the clinical implications of 'sex organ' or 'penis', then defining the cock as a male/female body part just seems silly. It's the flesh stick that you stick into the beaver when you want to make a baby or feel good, or into other holes or crevices if you're into that, and that's all it needs to be. That is to say, in a more academic lingo, defining it by function makes a lot more sense given that, based on our current knowledge of how gender works, defining it strictly by sex/gender is inevitably gonna result in inaccuracy.

Viani · 2017-07-20 23:06:31

Okay I found something that totally reminded me of this thread

Somebody on my feed was going SCHOOL (SHOOTING) OF ROCK

but the comments are mostly filled with people talking about the lackluster characterization and choppy plot (and shadman) rather than react to the fact that this is a school shooting joke

but yeah theres those too I guess?

"School of Rock birthed modern " I was born in the wrong generation" -ers. This art speaks to me on a spiritual level."

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:15:01

i uh... don't get it. are those supposed to be harris and klebold?

Tatterhood · 2017-07-20 23:16:55

it appears to be made by that shadman guy or one of his friends so expecting it to actually mean anything other than "I, the artist, am edgy as fuck" is probably a fool's game

Viani · 2017-07-20 23:17:21

Klinotaxis said:
i uh... don't get it. are those supposed to be harris and klebold?

I don't believe so, neither of them have blonde hair.

they look like people cosplaying as the MC from Hatred tho

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:19:23

in that critical mode, what i can get out of it is that the artist, in the form of some school shooters who think they look cool, does not like the kind of classic rock music evangelized by the school of rock guy. right?

Tatterhood · 2017-07-20 23:20:02

Klinotaxis said:
in that critical mode, what i can get out of it is that the artist, in the form of some school shooters who think they look cool, does not like the kind of classic rock music evangelized by the school of rock guy. right?

I wouldn't even be entirely sure of that honestly

Obā-san · 2017-07-20 23:20:56

are there any school shooters who listened to cannibal corpse? seems poorly researched imho

Yarrun XIX · 2017-07-20 23:21:41

The school shooting joke is an easy target, when there's tons more to criticize.

For example, there's no way a shotgun at a range *that* close, even sawed-off would have that much spread, and looking at the earlier panels, the blood spatter from the students shouldn't be reaching that far, especially since we have Jack Black for comparison. Honestly, just sophomoric ballistic representation. And that's not even getting into how two grown-men snuck into a school for middle-schoolers.

Anyways, it's Shadman, so we really shouldn't be giving it the time of day, for the edgelord feeds on cheap controversy.

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:22:44

mainly i'm thinking that cos they're wearing metal shirts

but it is hard to determine an intent here

Viani · 2017-07-20 23:29:59

Actually the thing that weirds me out the most is the fact that Harris and Klebold have a fandom.

Like, maybe they watched the documentary on the Columbine Killers at a young age and DIDN'T QUITE GET that they were supposed to be villains and they murdered a whole fuckton of kids. From what I've seen, a lot of their fandom are bullied kids who look up to somebody who "defeated their bullies" but haven't really let reality set in.

I'd like to assume people just enjoy being part of the H&K fandom to of course, BE EDGY, to SHOCK and HORRIFY. But the thing is, humans do things that don't make sense. Especially emotional, younger kids with no role models.

I'll leave the rest of my musings to a PM. Whatever.

glennmagusharvey · 2017-07-20 23:30:00

SF_Sorrow said:
no, it's not

she was saying that solely equating 'penis' with 'maleness' in the name of 'biology' is just another way of how people attempt to delegitimize those who have penises that don't identify as male

yeah, i think i can make out that message, and i agree with that point, though the delivery is a bit...iffy.

edit: i got ninja'd to hell

Tatterhood · 2017-07-20 23:31:16

Klinotaxis said:
mainly i'm thinking that cos they're wearing metal shirts

but it is hard to determine an intent here

I mean it's pretty clear the artist thinks Cannibal Corpse and Slayer are cooler and more kvlt than classic rock.

But whether that means he actually likes the music better is not necessarily certain.

Princess Alice · 2017-07-20 23:33:13

Murderers having a fandom is, unfortunately, not uncommon.

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:34:11

i've heard that their DooM levels are not bad

Anonus · 2017-07-20 23:34:19

are we seriously going to talk about columbine today

Anonus · 2017-07-20 23:34:38

you know

five years to the day of that other infamous colorado shooting

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:36:25

are you perhaps cutting yourself on my monomolecular edge

glennmagusharvey · 2017-07-20 23:38:02

Tatterhood said:

glennmagusharvey said:
is it just me or does anyone else feel that it's going a bit overboard to say that one should not call a penis a "male sex organ"/"male genitals"/"male genitalia" just because it's on someone who does not identify as male? i mean, going by this reasoning, one could say that a preserved specimen penis or a wax model of a penis should not be called a "male sex organ" because it's not attached to something that identifies as any gender...
The issue is that if what you actually mean is a penis, why are you saying "male genitals" instead of "penis"? Whether or not you are intending to make the statement that everyone with a penis is male, insisting on using that terminology when it's completely unnecessary has that implication. Especially if (since I'm fairly certain this is an offshoot of the whole Laci Green thing) you're already known for being shitty to trans people.

Also, a wax model of a penis is not a male sex organ, on account of how it's not in fact a sex organ. And if you insist on calling it a "wax model of a male sex organ" the question is again why you feel like using a phrase with twice as many syllables that has no semantic difference except possibly making trans people uncomfortable.

For that matter, insisting on distinguishing sex vs gender and taking great pleasure into saying trans women are "of the male sex" even though they have "female gender identity" also means you're a dick, regardless of whether or not one is defining terms such that that's technically correct.

FWIW there are places where "penis" is censored out...such as the Steam forums lol.

But yeah, to be fair, as nitya said, "male genitalia"/"male genitals" includes both penis and testicles, strictly speaking, and probably also a few other things, though that's sort of aside from this point.

(FWIW I do not know who Laci Green is.)

I don't see a reason to keep on refer to "male genitals" (or "male genitalia") when one could simply say "penis" though. That said there are contexts in which one would need to talk about a penis (and accompanying other organs) possessed by a person who isn't cisgender, such as medical contexts, though presumably they'd be quite capable of using the term "penis".

Viani · 2017-07-20 23:38:19

Central Avenue said:
Murderers having a fandom is, unfortunately, not uncommon.

People tend to admire others for great feats that nobody else can do. Throwing away the normal life and following your heart in times of despair is an admirable feat. When others say "you can't do this" and "you'll never succeed", seeing those who don't listen to that and striking out and accomplishing feats fills people's hearts with hope, makes people want to follow them.

Just like making great music, going pro in a sport, creating a masterpiece or achieving a great record, going nuts and killing people is a feat that some people will admire.

glennmagusharvey · 2017-07-20 23:39:28

Viani said:

Central Avenue said:
Murderers having a fandom is, unfortunately, not uncommon.
People tend to admire others for great feats that nobody else can do. Throwing away the normal life and following your heart in times of despair is an admirable feat. When others say "you can't do this" and "you'll never succeed", seeing those who don't listen to that and striking out and accomplishing feats fills people's hearts with hope, makes people want to follow them.

Just like making great music, going pro in a sport, creating a masterpiece or achieving a great record, going nuts and killing people is a feat that some people will admire.

and thus we have hitler fans and trump fans.

Klinotaxis · 2017-07-20 23:43:07

you know a weird thing about school massacres

the top three (by death toll) are islamist militants, then number four was a farmer in minnesota in 1927

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