looks sideways at fine bros controversy

Odradek · 2016-02-01 15:24:46

Maybe if you didn't have a culture centered on things like "content creators" and "brands" this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

*tumblr gif of sassy lady drinking a drink*

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-02-01 15:25:56

So I assume you saw the Folding Ideas video on this? I didn't know this was a thing until I watched that.

Odradek · 2016-02-01 15:27:28

Sredni Vashtar said:
So I assume you saw the Folding Ideas video on this? I didn't know this was a thing until I watched that.

I have seen it, but I knew this was a thing before that.

This was my favorite parody of it.

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-01 15:29:27

There's no controversy. At all.

We all decided that they were fucking idiots.

Odradek · 2016-02-01 15:30:50

MachSpeed said:
There's no controversy. At all.

We all decided that they were fucking idiots.

Let's not get into a semantics debate here

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-01 15:32:39

The meme is "they're losing followers every thirty seconds."

Princess Alice · 2016-02-01 15:36:56

The funniest part: when you apply for a trademark, there's a 30-day period where others can file objections.

If Fine Bros had waited another month, they could have gotten away with this.

But they made the incredibly stupid mistake of announcing their plans while there was still time for others to file objections, so now lawyers are rushing to tell the patent office not to grant their trademarks.

Odradek · 2016-02-01 15:36:56

How about "scandal"?

Section42L · 2016-02-01 15:37:07

It's not a meme.

It's actually happening.

They've lost over 150,000 subscribers so far.

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-01 15:38:06

This is probably petty, but I just subscribed to them so I could unsubscribe again.

I like this counter. It's somewhat faster.

Crystal · 2016-02-01 15:44:49

Lol.

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-01 15:46:20

Courtesy of Crystal linking it to me, I forgot to say.

Tre · 2016-02-01 15:48:46

I haven't even really had much of any attachment to those videos so I'm just sitting here like

lee4hmz · 2016-02-01 16:28:17

I'm more like "who are the Fine Bros?"

Tatterhood · 2016-02-01 17:27:03

lee4hmz said:
I'm more like "who are the Fine Bros?"

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-01 17:38:05

Apparently all of the Kids React, Elderly Reacts, etc. videos all come from one company? And they tried to trademark the concept of reacting?

Sredni Vashtar · 2016-02-01 17:46:19

Sort of. Have an explanation.

Imipolex G · 2016-02-01 18:22:38

they're getting a reaction, all right

Tatterhood · 2016-02-01 22:15:04

Yarrun XIX said:
Apparently all of the Kids React, Elderly Reacts, etc. videos all come from one company? And they tried to trademark the concept of reacting?

weird

Odradek · 2016-02-01 22:16:16

Even before they did this, they went after Ellen Degeneres for having a short segment on her show where kids were shown old technology.

Bee · 2016-02-01 22:44:32

my polysynaptic spinal functions are in violation of trademark

Klinotaxis · 2016-02-01 23:05:37

the idea of showing kids old technology and filming their reactions might be specific enough to be copyrightapatentable, but... they didn't... and then asked people to spam to enforce their nonexistent rights. have i got that right

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 23:06:54

yeah basically.

Imipolex G · 2016-02-01 23:08:02

I don't think concepts like that should be copypatentrightable, but what do I know

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 23:15:00

neither do I but they could probably get away with it in at least the specific context of Youtube videos.

Klinotaxis · 2016-02-01 23:17:59

for a patent (and i don't even know if you can patent comedy routines) they'd have to prove no prior art, which would probably be pretty easy to attack.

Section42L · 2016-02-02 01:10:56

Sredni Vashtar said:
Sort of. Have an explanation.

This is a Good Video, just so y'all know.

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-02 01:24:49

It is a pretty good video. Clear, concise, and level-headed, and I might be banwagan-jumping pitchfork-touting asshole, but sometimes I value such things.

In the end, I can't see this whole thing being anything but a failure for everyone. Reactions are indefensible as a concept, the Fine Brothers' brands have little to no value for people trying to hitch their star to theirs, they cannot police their franchises for a lack of quality except in the harshest of ways (content strikes and channel takedowns), and all it will do is flood Youtube with even more reaction videos of this caliber.

But I know I'm preaching to the choir too, because none of you folks actually watch React videos with any regularity.

Bee · 2016-02-02 02:20:49

Signal boosting that video. Thank you.

Princess Alice · 2016-02-02 02:49:15

I feel like there's two levels of bullshit going on here.

If they'd just applied for trademarks on the series names they actually use, "Teens React", "Kids React", etc...well, honestly, I'd still be pretty pissed, because I don't like that you can apparently trademark a literal description of your product as if it's unique.

But then they had to go and act as if they owned the entire concept of reaction videos, which elevated it from frustrating to hilarious!

Section42L · 2016-02-02 02:50:38

The main saving grace here is that they're as incompetent as they are greedy.

Section42L · 2016-02-02 06:12:17

The crow has been eaten.

Obā-san · 2016-02-02 06:18:31

in all my time on the internet i have never seen an apology so complete and thorough

One-Winged Eagle · 2016-02-02 06:23:20

I don't know, I think they could fit more crows in there.

Section42L · 2016-02-02 06:37:17

Today is Tomorrow said:
in all my time on the internet i have never seen an apology so complete and thorough

Yeah, it's not really a proper apology. Still, it's a prick to their egos and I'm happy about it.

People do need to keep watch to make sure they keep their word, though.

Crystal · 2016-02-02 06:40:49

I guess it's thorough for people like them, but I'm not holding my breath or anything.

Bee · 2016-02-02 07:03:27

Good enough for me.

Section42L · 2016-02-02 07:10:44

Bee said:
Good enough for me.

It's not good enough until the databases show that the trademarks have been dropped.

If they keep to their word, however, I do agree with you.

Obā-san · 2016-02-02 07:14:11

Section42L said:

Bee said:
Good enough for me.
It's not good enough until the databases show that the trademarks have been dropped.

If they keep to their word, however, I do agree with you.

saying you're going to do that then not doing that is PR hari kiri, by saying publically that they are doing that, they are essentially guaranteeing it

Obā-san · 2016-02-02 07:17:11

it's like saying a "stick a needle in my eye" and actually handingout eye-sticking needles

Section42L · 2016-02-02 07:24:22

Yeah, true.

This is pretty beautiful.

Bee · 2016-02-02 08:48:55

Today is Tomorrow said:

Section42L said:

Bee said:
Good enough for me.
It's not good enough until the databases show that the trademarks have been dropped.

If they keep to their word, however, I do agree with you.
saying you're going to do that then not doing that is PR hari kiri, by saying publically that they are doing that, they are essentially guaranteeing it

To be fair, politicians go explicitly against shit they said they would do and still get good PR all the time...

Obā-san · 2016-02-02 08:51:02

politicians have better PR budgets than youtubers generally speaking

Obā-san · 2016-02-02 08:52:01

also they have a substantially delayed period between "doing the thing" and "repercussions for the thing" to do damage control

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-16 02:29:26

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-16 02:30:22

this thread bothers me a lot

Tachyon · 2016-02-16 02:36:50

Why?

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-16 02:40:06

sorry?

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-16 02:42:34

ok "a lot" is a huge overstatement. Give me a moment to explain.

Obā-san · 2016-02-16 02:43:22

in retrospect, while the Fine Bros fucked up, a lot of the bandwagoning that followed seems remarkably meanspirited

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-16 02:43:52

I just think that it's unkind to lump The Fine Bros. in together with all other content creators (and yes that is the term) on Youtube.

Most of those people don't do shitty things like Fine Bros. did, is all.

Actually I suppose by the thread I just sort of meant the OP, and by a lot I meant slightly.

I'm being a huge jerk tonight.

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