The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Odradek said:

    BTW Kexruct, I dreamt that I was in a nonary game.


    The rules weren't explained very well and we basically went up and down a skyscraper. At one point some people died, and then we had to sneak past a demon-possessed cat, which we could do because one of us had shadow magic. I told everyone that a golden fairy told me we could float down form the top of the skyscraper to get outside. Then we all died because the fairly lied.

    Except I lived, and as a tribute to the dead, I sang a karaoke version of a song one of them wrote, which turned out to just be "Gray Seal" by Elton John.

    I wander what Freud would say.
    One time I dreamed that Monobear had altered my watch so that it does the injecty thing from VLR whenever I informed anyone that I met Monobear. I ran to someone for help and told them what happened and freaked out when I realized that I was going to die. I woke up as I was crying and yelling goodbye to as many people as I could.

    It wasn't a fun dream.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    doesn't sound like it
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    girls' names are weird

    so many of the popular girls' names in English are just regular English words for plants (usually flowers), or places, or months, or virtues, or else are just popular male names with a feminine suffix attached

    whereas most of the popular boys' names in English have no meaning in standard English besides being boys' names
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Tachyon said:

    i have a book that addresses that from a neuroscientific perspective

    it's called Delusions of Gender

    unfortunately, and i guess as you might expect, it seems to be popular with transphobic types

    but the book itself isn't actually about transsexuality and isn't transphobic, at least as far as i've read

    I don't personally believe that transsexualism is mutually exclusive with the basic viewpoint that book argues for and I think that people who would use it to deny trans experiences are severely missing the point.
  • edited 2013-11-27 12:47:11
    image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Proof that Sony hates PAL regions: Both the PSP 2000 and 3000 are called the Slim & Lite.
  • Tachyon said:

    girls' names are weird

    so many of the popular girls' names in English are just regular English words for plants (usually flowers), or places, or months, or virtues, or else are just popular male names with a feminine suffix attached

    whereas most of the popular boys' names in English have no meaning in standard English besides being boys' names

    *looks for the one hilarious section in Lords and Ladies about why Bestiality Carter is named as such but can't find it*

    You'll see it when I get home and return to my Discworld collection.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i haven't read that one yet
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I feel like crap today
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I grumped a lot today and also stress
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    The best Discworld book is the one where things happen. So speaks the Goddess.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    turkish avatar
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    whee Zelda, it's a nice break from all that bullet hell stuff sometimes even though I play Touhou really hardcore
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    btw why is The Lost Levels sadistic :o I wouldn't even try to play it ^_^;
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    like srsly I am really bad at Mario (except SM64 but that one is kind of easy)
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    vidyagamez lol
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I'm still trying to prove that the video game industry is a giant Freudian penis metaphor.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'm home now.

    Today's a very cold and wintery day.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    The railroad bridge over Frebis Avenue still has the old Norfolk & Western Railway logo on it! (Apologies for the dirty windshield)

    image

    For those not familiar, Norfolk & Western hasn't existed under that name since 1997; they merged with the Southern Railway to form Norfolk Southern.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Spoilers: Maths teachers are incapable of keeping their rooms tidy.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Miko said:

    like srsly I am really bad at Mario (except SM64 but that one is kind of easy)

    but you beat Black Candles like 6 times
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    although that's kind of an easy one
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I beat The Lost Levels when I was a fetus
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Pillows said:

    I beat The Lost Levels when I was a fetus

    How did you get the controller into your mother?

    ...

    Don't answer that.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i found Black Candles quite hard

    i still haven't completed the most recent version
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    I beat Lost Levels before it existed. Check and mate.
  • edited 2013-11-27 13:33:02
    My dreams exceed my real life
    So one of the big basises of Hegelianism is the so-called Labour Of The Negative.

    Basically here's how it goes:

    When you have a disagreement with someone on something, generally you have reasons you take to authorize your position and give it credence. Your opponent will likely have something similar.

    So any given community is going to have a set of reasons it takes to be authoritative, like "the word of the scripture" or "the evidence of experimentation". Eventually, a set of internal contradictions is going to disrupt the internal structure of the community's set of reasons and the community will have to come up with a new paradigm to explain how these apparent contradictions make sense. This pushes the whole system forward and expands our conceptual framework.

    Two big objections to this.

    There's the one leveled by Kierkegaard from a strongly Christian perspective, which is that Hegel's position fails to respect the radical externalize of the world and how it can force us to revise our positions  from outside, as well as objecting that some things will always escape conceptualization. He uses the Biblical story of Abraham and Isaac against Hegelian ethics, presenting a story that seems to escape reason. You don't have to be as strong a christian as Kierkegaard to think there's something to this objection. More secular, similar statements were made by Wilfred Sellars, who spoke of the "Hegelian serpent swallowing its tail" and Peirce's joke about 

    "Let the Universe be an evolution of Pure Reason if you will. Yet if while you are walking in
    the street reflecting upon how everything is the pure distillate of Reason, a man carrying a
    heavy pole suddenly pokes you in the small of the back, you may think there is something
    in the Universe that Pure Reason fails to account for; and when you look at the color red
    and ask yourself how Pure Reason could make red to have that utterly inexpressible and
    irrational positive quality it has, you will be perhaps disposed to think that Quality and
    Reaction have their independent standings in the Universe"

    Another big objection that Gilles Deleuze finds, is that Hegel explains the development of the conceptual, but fails to explain how the conceptual came from the non-conceptual. Hegelians seem to be left with a similar situation to a popular comic panel
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    where Hegelians like Zizek, for instance, have to resort to talking of a radical rupture in being to explain how our human sphere came about. Deleuze has tried, in his work, to make sense of the conceptual arising from the non-conceptual, which is a big reason why Deleuze's philosophy is so hard(not that Hegel's is much easier). Adrian Johnston is a modern Hegelian trying to answer Deleuze's challenge with reference to contemporary neurology and biology. http://societyandspace.com/2013/10/07/interview-with-adrian-johnston-on-transcendental-materialism/

    In the analytic world, the debate between Dennett and self-proclaimed Hegelian Robert Brandom have shown much the same structure of argument. http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/Brandom.pdf

    #things nobody cares about

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    I beat Lost Levels before it existed. Check and mate.

    Pillows presumably did too, since it didn't come out until 1986 which was after he was born
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Ah. My apologies. By it, I meant reality. I really should have been more clear.
  • edited 2013-11-27 13:39:25

    To see if I got this straight, is this sort of an argument about how this concept of the Labour of the Negative fails to account for it's own starting place?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    To see if I got this straight, is this sort of an argument about how this concept of the Labour of the Negative fails to account for it's own starting place?
    Yes, partially.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    dark comedy done poorly
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    The easier a game is the more its fans suck at it and that is why everyone's Zelda gameplay is painfully skill-less but w/e I'm still watching this series because it's fun.
  • this idea of like there being something before a conceptual framework for experience kinda confuses me though?


    Because I'm pretty sure you can't process sensory data of any sort or really think anything meaningful without a framework for thought.

    Like, I'm pretty sure that most animals with a central nervous system of decent complexity have some sort of framework for understanding the world, even if it's just an incredibly rudimentary set of sensory/experience associations.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    beating a dead horse on lunatic
  • edited 2013-11-27 13:47:27

    Unless I'm not really understanding what is meant by a conceptual framework here. >_>


    This sort of seemingly largely self-defined specific terminology is what bugs me about lots of philosophy things I have read.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i don't think Zelda is really about skill, except i guess the puzzle-solving

    mostly it's about exploring the world and having fun playing as an adventurer
  • edited 2013-11-27 13:49:05
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    This sort of seemingly largely self-defined specific terminology is what bugs me about lots of philosophy things I have read.

    this has been my main problem trying to take an interest in philosophy stuff
  • edited 2013-11-27 13:50:46
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ^^ that is true and that is why I don't care so much and I would literally hate this series if it didn't have all that fun stuff due to it being baby-friendly
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    idk like, it just irks me. I'm whiny. But ummm I agree basically.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    lol why do I even like this series again I've been ignoring it for the better part of a decade
  • an obsession with skill can only lead to terrible things



    exhibit a
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i dunno, i think it's enjoyable, but if you don't find it appealing you don't have to

    i think calling it 'baby-friendly' is a bit condescending and rude, tho i realize that's hyperbole
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    idk, you don't come off as whiny, just a little fixated on difficulty

    which makes me feel bad because i am bad at hard games, i suppose
  • wow i forgot just how crappy brain drill is
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    It's like, it pains me to see someone miss a jump that I could have done with my eyes closed while eating a sandwich, and then skip ahead to when they get back to that place and try again, and every time they fail I cringe. Just for example.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    mouse brains
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    well, why not just play the game yourself?

    i mean, i can't really disagree with you here since i sometimes get irritated if i'm watching someone playing a game badly (tho it can be kinda funny to watch people get frustrated)
  • (*sweep picking into the distance*)
  • The sadness will last forever.
    avoiding something because it's overhyped
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