The Russo Brothers are making a movie remake of Love and Monsters

Odradek · 2015-08-08 20:26:47

Because it will make the Doctor part of the MCU, you will lap it up as a great idea like the fucking street dog you are.

Tachyon · 2015-08-08 20:28:09

but i don't want the Doctor to be in the MCU

Odradek · 2015-08-08 20:29:10

No, you do. Every character must snark at every other character.

Tachyon · 2015-08-08 20:33:02

*deploys Bat Snark-Repellant*

Odradek · 2015-08-08 20:55:19

The directors of the worst Marvel movie are making a sequel to that movie based on a widely-hated comic arc, and featuring the symbol of Disney/Marvel dominance over IPs, and starring a clusterfuck of characters.

Marvel fanboys have the goddamn gall to be excited over this.

Section42L · 2015-08-08 21:02:20

I think that if the Winter Soldier happened twenty years ago, it would've been mocked as an ultimate example of the artistic bankruptcy of superhero comics.

I don't get why people are suddenly taking it seriously, not just in comics but in the culture at large.

MissUtilis · 2015-08-08 21:02:42

The main reason Disney is dominant over IPs is because Time Warner doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground

The Hanna-Barbera Cinematic Universe would be >>>>>> the MCU

MissUtilis · 2015-08-08 21:15:12

Also, I'm not a street dog! Us Dearly-Radcliffs lead a comfortable lifestyle fueled by Roger's big fat song royalty checks

MissUtilis · 2015-08-08 21:34:08

But yeah

Where are you seeing these Marvel fanboys? I have heard no excitement over Captain America 3

Odradek · 2015-08-08 21:38:42

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MissUtilis · 2015-08-08 21:45:12

I must not follow the same Tumblrs that you do, though I did get annoyed at a post where a bunch of teenagers tripped over themselves to praise St. Walter Elias Disney

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 14:43:08

I still think CA2 was really good. I honestly don't know what makes you folks hate it so much. All I know is that you do. The action was bad is the only argument I remember? And I totally feel otherwise.

I thought Love and Monsters was okay. I don't see what's so bad about it, other than the image of a slab of concrete sucking some guy's dick.

I'll also remind you that twenty years ago was the 90's, and we had dumb stuff like Cable and Spawn and The Dark Knight Returns and Liefeld and Kingdom Come running around. Comic books were always stupid. And they always will be.

I didn't like the Winter Soldier arc in the comic books. It left me unphased. Like, characters are supposed to stay dead or whatever? Like it's some sort of sacred cow? And I don't care. Bring back Uncle Ben or whatever, he's the only one left now. Nothing is sacred, and I will gladly overturn all altars, feast on the sacrificial meat with my fangs, and dance in the ashes as it is mixed in with the indignant tears of whomever dares to care about such things.

Odradek · 2015-08-09 14:45:20

No one has any personality of any kind.

It's a bad action movie, then it's a bad conspiracy movie, then it's a different kind of bad action movie.

It's too long.

The central political metaphor is insipid and insulting.

It wastes good actors with an infantile script.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 14:46:48

I disagree on all counts.

Tachyon · 2015-08-09 14:48:53

MachSpeed said:
I thought Love and Monsters was okay. I don't see what's so bad about it, other than the image of a slab of concrete sucking some guy's dick.

i felt Russell T Davies should have treated that kid's monster concept with a little more respect. He clearly wasn't taking the episode seriously.

Aside from that and the aforementioned paving slab bit, it was ok i think, kind of funny even.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 14:49:47

Other stupid 90's comic book things:

Death and Return of Superman.
Azrael Batman.
Guy Gardner, Warrior.
(the former doctor) Fate.
Clone Saga.
Captain America's breasts.
Superman Red and Superman Blue.
Collectibles.

Odradek · 2015-08-09 14:52:12

Also I was talking about Civil War, not Winter Soldier

Odradek · 2015-08-09 14:53:45

Every time someone defends Winter Soldier, they refer to some mystical unspecified way in which it was "well made" despite all the elements being bad.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 14:55:06

You said "the worst Marvel movie by the worst directors" so clearly, you have to be talking about Winter Soldier.

Like, I honestly can't tell if something is well made or not, because I don't know how to watch movies. I don't know how to do anything, unlike everyone here.

All I know is that it was a good time at the movies.

MissUtilis · 2015-08-09 14:55:34

Tachyon said:

MachSpeed said:
I thought Love and Monsters was okay. I don't see what's so bad about it, other than the image of a slab of concrete sucking some guy's dick.
i felt Russell T Davies should have treated that kid's monster concept with a little more respect. He clearly wasn't taking the episode seriously.

Aside from that and the aforementioned paving slab bit, it was ok i think, kind of funny even.

given how loaded with angst and death the show was otherwise I can't blame him for loosening up a bit

Odradek · 2015-08-09 14:56:08

The way you said it made it sound like I was insulting Winter Soldier when I said "a sequel to that movie based on a widely-hated comic arc"

Tachyon · 2015-08-09 14:57:29

eh, it wasn't really? New Earth had jokes, Tooth and Claw had jokes, The Idiot's Lantern had jokes

it was a bit of a grim season, it's true, but if he wanted to write something silly to serve as a breather ep i feel like he should have used his own monster

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 14:59:09

If you want to talk about stupid 80's comic book things, then there's;

Call to kill Jason Todd.
Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Crystar the Crystal Warrior.
The New Universe.
Superman and Big Barda make a porno.
Watchmen.
Etc.

Tachyon · 2015-08-09 15:04:51

for that matter you can write a funny Doctor Who and still take the monster seriously

take Flatline: hilarious episode, and the monsters are terrifying

or, heck, look at The Unicorn and the Wasp, definition of a silly episode, but the humour doesn't come from the monster, it comes from the other characters

Yarrun XIX · 2015-08-09 15:12:36

Oh, man, please let someone get cocky enough to make the clone saga into a film

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 15:15:44

I've listed things I actually like in both lists (Warrior, Kill Jason Todd, Crisis, Electric Superman, Kingdom Come), but I don't deny that they're all fucking stupid.

Asking comic books to not be fucking stupid is like asking water to flow upwards; it's almost impossible and you're going to get wet either way. In comics, everybody is bankrupt both financially and creatively all the time, and that's what makes it the pinnacle of proletarian entertainment.

Section42L · 2015-08-09 15:35:39

Sorry for the delay, but I was typing this on my phone and I kept getting ninja'd.

MachSpeed said:
I'll also remind you that twenty years ago was the 90's, and we had dumb stuff like Cable and Spawn and The Dark Knight Returns and Liefeld and Kingdom Come running around. Comic books were always stupid. And they always will be.

I didn't like the Winter Soldier arc in the comic books. It left me unphased. Like, characters are supposed to stay dead or whatever? Like it's some sort of sacred cow? And I don't care. Bring back Uncle Ben or whatever, he's the only one left now. Nothing is sacred, and I will gladly overturn all altars, feast on the sacrificial meat with my fangs, and dance in the ashes as it is mixed in with the indignant tears of whomever dares to care about such things

That was my point, yes.

If the Winter Soldier had happened twenty years ago, it would've just been seen as one more bad idea among the pile that you listed. Marvel would've come up with some explanation about how he wasn't "really" Bucky, and we all would've moved on.

Because Ed Brubaker was able to place a "respectable" guise on it, however, the idea has endured and been canonized to the point where it's been adapted into a movie.

I'm not referring to bringing him back being the "dumb idea", BTW. Anyone who still cares about the non-permeable nature of death in Big Two comics is quite naive, to say the least. The ship for worrying about that has sailed a long time ago.

I'm referring to bringing Bucky back as a grimdark cyborg assassin. I have a very hard time taking that idea seriously, yet you're apparently supposed to.

I don't mind dumb ideas at all. I do mind being forced to take them seriously.

I also have to appreciate the sheer ballsiness of putting Watchmen in your "dumb ideas" list, BTW.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-09 15:37:09

Civil War is fucking stupid and they're making that into a movie.

Section42L · 2015-08-09 15:39:27

I think we can both agree that Mark Millar is the literal worst.

MetaFour · 2015-08-09 16:07:17

We can only hope that we'll get to see Bleedball banging his head against the wall, screaming, "Don't you get it? I'm deep now! This is DEEP!" on the big screen.

Odradek · 2015-08-09 16:12:29

That would risk alienating Marvel's audience of eight year olds and eight year olds at heart.

That's more for DC's audience of twelve year olds and twelve year olds at heart.

MissUtilis · 2015-08-09 16:31:32

MetaFour said:
We can only hope that we'll get to see Bleedball banging his head against the wall, screaming, "Don't you get it? I'm deep now! This is DEEP!" on the big screen.

NGL this makes me think of Freakazoid

Calica · 2015-08-09 17:16:08

Section42L said:
I think we can both agree that Mark Millar is the literal worst.

i heard he licks goats

Section42L · 2015-08-09 17:18:59

To be fair, I did recently find out that he wrote some all-ages Superman comics that were actually pretty good.

I'm still surprised that he was able to write those comics, TBH.

Alduin · 2015-08-10 12:54:25

This is all I know about Mark Millar

Anonus · 2015-08-10 16:48:21

Dude looks like Snagglepuss's bigoted grandpa

Obā-san · 2015-08-10 17:12:50

this entire thread makes no sense to me but I do know that I saw the fourth transformers film yesterday and as a result I no longer have anything bad to say about the mcu

Odradek · 2015-08-10 17:15:11

naney said:
this entire thread makes no sense to me but I do know that I saw the fourth transformers film yesterday and as a result I no longer have anything bad to say about the mcu

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

Obā-san · 2015-08-10 17:17:14

it was like they took the worst action script of all time and gave it to their 13 year old nephew and said "hey kid put in some jokes"

Alduin · 2015-08-10 17:57:22

But yeah, I don't get the hate for Captain America 2. It was an entertaining way to spend an afternoon

Odradek · 2015-08-10 18:08:28

Odradek said:
No one has any personality of any kind.

It's a bad action movie, then it's a bad conspiracy movie, then it's a different kind of bad action movie.

It's too long.

The central political metaphor is insipid and insulting.

It wastes good actors with an infantile script.

MetaFour · 2015-08-11 00:45:09

I don't see how being hyperbolically negative about the MCU is any better than being hyperbolically positive about it.

Odradek · 2015-08-11 00:51:34

I feel everything I say about the MCU

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-11 01:08:11

Is the political metaphor insipid and insulting or is it just blunt, and the right kind of bluntness?

Odradek · 2015-08-11 01:13:09

Insipid and insulting

Tachyon · 2015-08-11 01:15:17

Ant-Man relegates all characters who aren't white Americans to the status of comedy criminal sidekicks

except for Falcon who's mostly there to get beaten up

an ethnic slur is deployed for comedy and it's supposed to be funny because it's spoken by an Eastern European criminal and suggests he is naive and ignorant

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-11 01:16:17

Hey, man. It's me we're talking about. The anti-fan of everything, in that I hate fans, and I would rather cut off pieces of myself than join those assholes in whatever dickstroking they're doing at any moment. I hate those folks almost as much as you.

I am the perfect man, deathless and eternal. I have no faults.

Look me in the eye. Tell me. Do you think I know what I'm talking about?

Odradek · 2015-08-11 01:19:28

MachSpeed said:
Hey, man. It's me we're talking about. The anti-fan of everything, in that I hate fans, and I would rather cut off pieces of myself than join those assholes in whatever dickstroking they're doing at any moment. I hate those folks almost as much as you.

I am the perfect man, deathless and eternal. I have no faults.

Look me in the eye. Tell me. Do you think I know what I'm talking about?

Yes, the movie's central thesis that mass surveillance happened because of nazi infiltration of the government by people who Hate Our Freedom, was completely correct.

I also liked the bit in Avengers 2 where two victims of American imperialism have to learn the value of interventionism from the billionaire who literally designed the bomb that killed their family.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-11 01:25:37

The second one, I'll give you. It was some bullshit.

The first one, I disagree, because it's not Nazi infiltration of the government. It's Nazis latched on to a growing and aggressive world power drunk on its pride and strength, letting it do what it wanted.

They wouldn't have gone American if America wasn't already going to be what it is now.

Odradek · 2015-08-11 01:27:32

No one hates freedom except people on the internet who have been redpilled by moldbug. And they don't rule the world.

One-Winged Eagle · 2015-08-11 01:30:30

American Imperialism is not "I hate freedom." American Imperialism is "I'm afraid for my freedoms and powers and wealth so I'm going to go bully other people to make me feel better."

It's so easy to go from that to "Everyone should be safe and afraid."

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