i watched ten episodes of attack on titan, it seemed alright but i don't have much desire to go back to it after learning about the author being a japanese war crime denialist
Eh, it's cool. I know lots of Studio Ghibli people are Japanese war crime denialists - I vaguely remember Miyazaki chewing them out, which gave me a lot of respect for the guy.
i watched ten episodes of attack on titan, it seemed alright but i don't have much desire to go back to it after learning about the author being a japanese war crime denialist
The characters are well-written but at times it seems like there's a political motive behind it, what with the passion it drives its morals into your brain.
Whether or not there is one I leave up to you to decide. I've learned my lesson about presuming things.
my point being that it's OK to like things written by people who are wrong - or even bigoted. Lovecraft would call me inferior mongrel swine if he were alive today and that doesn't stop me from reading him
that's true, but knowing the creator of something has bigoted opinions can lessen my enjoyment of the thing in question, because my recollection of those opinions will be in the back of my mind when watching it and apparent biases in it can bring that recollection to the fore
like in the case of Lovecraft i can certainly read it and get some enjoyment from it but it does affect my perception of the writing
i vaguely feel like AoT is less 'essential' than Lovecraft but only time will tell how influential it proves to be
but in the meantime there are plenty of other anime that interest me more
Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
I love Lovecraft's work, partly because I'm pretty sure if he were alive today and heard about folks like me, he would be immensely confused and he'd spend most of his days in a daze, and that thought pleases me.
Whereas me loving Attack On Titan (if I did) is just feeding into Japanese imperialism. Which my folks have suffered and still not entirely forgiven.
Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
Lovecraft himself was a buffoon and nobody took him seriously. Nobody listens to him. Even we can't take him seriously. When we look at his view of the world as depicted in his writings, we just laugh and laugh. It's plainly ludicrous. He is a figure that is prodded, laughed at, mocked. Lovecraft may have wanted to further the cause of Manifest Destiny, but he did it no good, and even in death he cannot do it any good.
I cannot mock Isayama Hajime. He is clearly no fool. People listen to him, poring over his work, finding things. He is successful, and that gives him a certain amount of power. Power that is undeniable. His sentiments are shared by many, and he could be a figure of some influence.
One is a laughingstock; his type died out long ago, long before my own parents were young. The other is a bogeyman; his kind we will see in the years to come.
i know what you mean and i'm sure you're not referring to anyone here, but like, i probably wouldn't have ever watched FIM were it not for the nerd following, and i guess i have typical nerd tastes...
i dunno, since when did 'dudebro' have anything to do with nerds anyway? This is a recent association, i feel.
some nerds are dudebros, or at least act like them
and American cartoon fans are nerds, I guess, it's just that American animation is rarely central to "nerd culture" (a lot of people I've spoken to outside of, like, Toon Zone seem to think that Looney Tunes and such are something to be grown out of, for instance)
but yeah i know some nerds act like dudebros, i guess i just kinda bristled at the suggestion that being dudebros had anything to do with having typical nerd tastes
i might be way off the mark but i think nerds tend to be more forgiving of cartoons made with the express purpose of advertising toys, e.g. He-Man, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Transformers
plus a lot of American animation fans are kind of meh on flash animation anyway, plus the 'for little girls' thing probably put a lot of people off (bearing in mind the male nerd following for MLP kind of snowballed out of some 'ironic' thing on 4chan and otherwise might not have happened)
I think people are OK with that because toys are fun and the cartoons that are mostly to advertise them should be, as a consequence, also fun. Ofc Transformers in particular has become this whole....thing, that is difficult to describe in short.
The reason the MLP fandom, or at least parts of it, is bad is that it actively excludes the intended audience.
No child is left out of Transformers by there being older Transformers fans, but a lot of the worst people who latched on to Friendship is Magic are also responsible for the franchise's internet presence being turned into a thing largely of perversion and hatred, and thus unsuitable for the young girls the show is actually made for. You can argue--and you'd be right--that that's not actually the show's fault, but it's how things developed.
There's plenty of American animation fans who like FIM, but they don't make up the most prominent chunk of the fandom.
We do tend to be meh-to-negative on Flash.
And I'm the sort of fan who generally disdains toyetic cartoons, FIM aside...I prefer things that are based on things with some sort of animated/comic/literary origin, or original creations.
anyway I thought "nerds" generally gravitated towards tie-in animation more than original stuff (e.g. people waxing nostalgic over Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh! - I thought the latter was kind of junky as a kid, but then again I hated the '90s X-Men show too so)
i think devotion to certain interests is kind of integral to the concept of 'nerdiness' so you would expect tie-in cartoons to attract nerd followings, wouldn't you?
i preferred Yu-Gi-Oh! to X-Men... i watched some of both, but was never crazy about either
He rarely has occasion to speak about it publicly, but he's mentioned it. He's the forum's only other Pepper Ann enthusiast unless you'd consider yourself such too...
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Cute macro SNK would be cute tho
mostly i think of snk as the purview of kinda basic 18 year olds on tumblr and reddit
like in the case of Lovecraft i can certainly read it and get some enjoyment from it but it does affect my perception of the writing
i vaguely feel like AoT is less 'essential' than Lovecraft but only time will tell how influential it proves to be
but in the meantime there are plenty of other anime that interest me more
i dunno, since when did 'dudebro' have anything to do with nerds anyway? This is a recent association, i feel.
somehow, stuff that holds my interest is invariably considered 'typical nerd stuff'
plus a lot of American animation fans are kind of meh on flash animation anyway, plus the 'for little girls' thing probably put a lot of people off (bearing in mind the male nerd following for MLP kind of snowballed out of some 'ironic' thing on 4chan and otherwise might not have happened)
i preferred Yu-Gi-Oh! to X-Men... i watched some of both, but was never crazy about either
idk how i missed that