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Anonus · 2013-02-28 19:45:22

The post itself was fairly benign, but the blog is one written by Laurence Auster, who uses his blog to broadcast racist, homophobic viewpoints, and is also a published author who has come under fire for racist viewpoints. (this was brought to our attention by a tipster who felt it to seem problematic)

This was not even the main reason for his ban, though. We feel as though he's enough of a negative influence here (e.g. an overly confrontational attitude, an apparent sense of superiority to others) that he isn't worth the trouble.

glennmagusharvey · 2013-02-28 19:51:54

[quote]One of Fast Eddie's given reasons for refusal to add a proper quote system to his homemade forum software was "whenever you see a post with a bunch of quotes all followed by responses, you know you're dealing with a troll." We always had a good laugh about that, mostly because it doesn't make any sense, but also because that's always been GMH's MO in debates and he's, y'know, not a troll. [/quote]

I think he's even personally familiar with my MO -- at least, I've explicitly mentioned it to him a few years back -- and as far as I know he still feels that the probability that a user who does this is a troll is high enough that it justifies not quite banning the practice but making it difficult.

Speaking of which, we don't have quote blocks here which does make it harder to compose comments in Notepad (or your choice of variant, such as Metapad).

[quote]That's the very first time I've ever heard that taking time to respond to every one of a person's points as "trolling". Fast Eddie would hate upper-level math classes. [/quote]

Or literary analysis.

Wait what's TVT about again?

[quote]Do you have your right to say it? Of course. We are a free country. But by the same token, it is within my rights to call you out for it.[/quote]

Yep, and that's the best thing about free speech. When someone else says something you think is stupid, you get to respond by saying that you think it's stupid.

Or the worst thing if you moderate internet forums. lol

[quote]8. More often than not, I've noticed, states' rights arguments seem to be more about the denial of individual liberties than the expansion of them. I thought that this was relevant, but I'm not sure where I would have put it.[/quote]

More accurately, it PRESUMES that having state governments do stuff rather than the federal goverment will NECESSARILY result more respect for individual liberties. Rather than critically asking whether that actually happens.

Hexartes · 2013-02-28 19:52:15

whoa whoa what

when did he get banned

and why

edit: ninja'd

Hexartes · 2013-02-28 19:56:56

Okay, so I think I've figured out the problem with political cartoons:

1. Politics are complex. Really complex. You can hardly simplify any political issue to three panels.

2. They're presumptuous. They assume that their point is self evident, and so much so that it's funny that people have other opinions.

Previous Calica · 2013-02-28 20:00:25

I'm just going to note that California wouldn't have any financial troubles if it were able to raise tax revenue without a Proposition.

But then, America as a whole seems to have issues with the idea of actually having taxes.

Oh, and if Texas seceded, you'd see a lot of their biggest employers suddenly jump ship, such as NASA(remember "Houston, we have a problem"?) and the military.

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-02-28 20:04:23

Kexruct said:
Okay, so I think I've figured out the problem with political cartoons:

1. Politics are complex. Really complex. You can hardly simplify any political issue to three panels.

2. They're presumptuous. They assume that their point is self evident, and so much so that it's funny that people have other opinions.

These points are quite accurate for the most part. There are political cartoons that avoid being overly simplistic or presumptuous in tone, but they are fairly rare.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-02-28 20:05:00

This conversation's kinda collapsed now that the only opposing viewpoint has been banned, no?

For the sake of being a devil's advocate in some minor way, I do think Texas could probably survive on its own, but I don't think it'd be better off.

Obā-san · 2013-02-28 20:07:44

This conversation's kinda collapsed now that the only opposing viewpoint has been banned, no?

I DON'T THINK THIS WAS A CONVERSATION WE WANTED TO HAVE

that caps lock wwas accidental but i feel like keeping it because i read it in lemongrab's voice and that's pretty funny

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-02-28 20:12:02

^^ It could, but as I said, it would be much worse off. The same applies to any large state with a strong industrial-commercial infrastructure. I'm sure that California could be its own state, but would it really be better for Californians in the long run, or even in the short run? Quite the opposite.

This being said, I am not opposed to regions with distinct cultural and historical traditions separating from larger, culturally distinct states, assuming that they use legal means. For instance, were Catalonia to gain its independence from Spain in the next year (which could actually happen), I would be all for it. But there is a stark difference between the two situations.

^ That line really is humorous when you read it that way.

glennmagusharvey · 2013-02-28 20:23:26

> This conversation's kinda collapsed now that the only opposing viewpoint has been banned, no?

Actually no; I see a pretty lively discussion about these topics going on right now.

Odradek · 2013-02-28 21:59:53

Well I'll kind of miss him I guess.

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-02-28 22:16:21

I disagreed with him on a lot of things, sometimes very sternly, but it was interesting to have an intelligent, reasonably well-spoken conservative to bounce off of around here. So, yes, I will miss him a little.

Viani · 2013-02-28 22:22:15

I do miss him too, he was on the dark side of misanthropy, where I was the light and beautiful side of it, and I cast my rays into his darkness to reveal the things that were hidden within.

His conveyed superiority didn't bug me much because I knew the entire time that he was nowhere being close to being more superior than everyone else than I am, I am a gentle patriarch, who respects the lesser plebians and gives them respect, since they make my shoes and give me love and money, of course. All that comes from stepping on peasants is anger, and banning.

And now that he's banned, I guess I have to adapt to this new social environment, so I am not driven to extinction and am unable to pass on my opinionated genes to others, by the great Anonus Asteroid Event.

Speaking of political jokes, since I am not a political person, I wouldn't know anything I've seen in a political cartoon.

but I so want to make a Moefied Lucky Staresque Political Cartoon series.

Misery · 2013-03-01 01:04:40

Meh.

Oh, political things...hmm...that's a touchy subject for me...even more than religious things.

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-03-01 18:01:20

^^ Moe politics. Oh no.

Viani · 2013-03-01 19:17:19

Which political party probably hate anime the most, republicans or democrats?

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-03-03 05:53:37

Republicans, although John McCain watching Fist of the North Star would be kind of brilliant.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 10:49:36

Aren't Democrats usually the ones to blame television and video games for things?

Obā-san · 2013-03-03 10:50:57

Justice42 said:
Aren't Democrats usually the ones to blame television and video games for things?

no

Odradek · 2013-03-03 10:51:39

Justice42 said:
Aren't Democrats usually the ones to blame television and video games for things?

Sometimes.

Tachyon · 2013-03-03 10:52:55

it depends on the things

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 10:55:08

Hilarly Clinton was certainly the biggest proponent of blaming video games for things.

Though, it does appear that both Republicans and Democrats spend a lot of time doing this.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 10:56:24

Though, I wonder if Republics are doing this a great deal at the moment, because it makes for an easy method to avoid the issue of gun control.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 10:57:44

Family Entertainment Protection Act

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"FEPA" redirects here. For the integral bacterial outer membrane porin protein, see FepA.

The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings system for video games in order to protect children from inappropriate content.^[1]

The FEPA would have imposed fines of $1000 dollars or 100 hours of community service for a first time offense of selling a "Mature" or "Adult-Only" rated video game to a minor, and $5000 or 500 hours for each subsequent offense. The bill also called for a FTC investigation into the ESRB to ascertain whether they have been properly rating games.^[2]

Similar bills have been passed in some U.S. states such as California, Michigan and Illinois, but were ruled to be unconstitutional.^[3]

This bill did not become law; it was referred to the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation and expired at the end of the 109th session of Congress without further action.^[4]

Obā-san · 2013-03-03 10:58:23

observation: Joe Lieberman is not very likeable

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 10:59:30

No. No he is not.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 11:01:23

Joe Lieberman:

Teller:

Sredni Vashtar · 2013-03-03 11:16:47

Joe Lieberman is a jackass, but he's not in office anymore, so yeah.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 11:25:43

Hypothesis: Teller has a falling out with Penn in later years, reexamines his political stances and uses magic to travel back in time to become Joe Lieberman

Salix Babylonika · 2013-03-03 12:45:26

Justice42 said:
Family Entertainment Protection Act
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"FEPA" redirects here. For the integral bacterial outer membrane porin protein, see FepA.
The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings system for video games in order to protect children from inappropriate content.^[1]
The FEPA would have imposed fines of $1000 dollars or 100 hours of community service for a first time offense of selling a "Mature" or "Adult-Only" rated video game to a minor, and $5000 or 500 hours for each subsequent offense. The bill also called for a FTC investigation into the ESRB to ascertain whether they have been properly rating games.^[2]
Similar bills have been passed in some U.S. states such as California, Michigan and Illinois, but were ruled to be unconstitutional.^[3]
This bill did not become law; it was referred to the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation and expired at the end of the 109th session of Congress without further action.^[4]

if the ESRB ratings were actually enforced this wouldn't be a thing people try to do.

~*just saying maybe ten year olds shouldn't be playing Call of Duty: Black Ops*~

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 12:51:50

I think the ESRB ratings are pretty swell and agree.

Tachyon · 2013-03-03 13:26:21

i don't get why parents can't just check the ratings before buying the games.

i don't see why the law needs to be involved at all.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-03-03 13:27:28

a8 said:
i don't get why parents can't just check the ratings before buying the games.

i don't see why the law needs to be involved at all.

people check ratings all the time, they're just never followed.

see: my stepdad buying Call of Duty for my younger brothers.

I'm not saying it should be a law, but it's a hilariously blatant example of terrible parenting.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 13:30:52

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 13:31:34

'course, that was when the ratings where first introduced. Hopefully more parents know what is going on now.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 13:32:25

Huh...I guess that one is an actual Political Cartoon.

It's kinda sad that Gabe is worlds better at this then most of what I've seen posted to this thread and elsewhere.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-03-03 13:32:42

knowing and caring are very different things, sadly.

I've found that parents are more likely to flip at the slightest hint of sex than anything violent.

Tachyon · 2013-03-03 13:34:55

Well, i guess if it's literally just an 'M' with no other information that could legitimately confuse some parents.

But iirc most games specify on the back along the lines of 'Mature 17+ blood and gore / sexual themes / language / whatever'.

i assume parents who don't care are not the ones calling for games to be banned/censored.

Salix Babylonika · 2013-03-03 13:36:50

a8 said:
i assume parents who don't care are not the ones calling for games to be banned/censored.

you would be amazed.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 13:39:47

It is a rather odd cultural norm that violence tends to be way more acceptable than anything dealing with sex.

South Park has at least one show about this that I know of, and probably quite a few more.

Justice4243 · 2013-03-03 13:41:48

MEANWHILE, IN INDIA!

Princess Alice · 2013-03-04 12:19:45

I love it when a conservative cartoonist puts out a cartoon I agree with for exactly the opposite reason he intended.

lee4hmz · 2013-03-04 12:22:07

As if preachin' more would help? Church attendance tends to go up the poorer you are.

glennmagusharvey · 2013-03-04 13:39:42

^^ holy shit you're right

Obā-san · 2013-03-04 13:42:10

lee4hmz · 2013-03-04 14:37:04

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it neds more ECONONOY.,....

Obā-san · 2013-03-04 14:41:11

Tachyon · 2013-03-04 15:15:55

Central Avenue said:
I love it when a conservative cartoonist puts out a cartoon I agree with for exactly the opposite reason he intended.

It's neat because Asay isn't actually making any point here, he's literally just stating two opposing positions verbatim - oversimplified, of course, but he even thoughtfully added a 'many' to cover his ass there.

Presumably he assumed his own view was so self-evidently correct that a joke would be superfluous.

Obā-san · 2013-03-04 15:18:58

i'm just really not seeing what point is...

i am baffled

lee4hmz · 2013-03-04 17:33:53

My assumption is that it's thinly-veiled Mighty Whitey crap, and that you're supposed to agree with the panel on the bottom, but...I looked up the Bible quote he gives and it's just a different set of seven sins. Are we going to propose a solution, Asay, or are we just going to call names?

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