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  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Ahhhhh, OK.
  • iunno if he said that or not, people keep throwing that tidbit around on tumblr but i never see a source
  • edited 2014-11-07 17:17:00
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Fair 'nuff. Maybe I should go look for one at some point.

    At any rate, I'm still interested in whatever you end up writing on this topic.
  • i just kinda accepted it as true cuz it fit how i came to understand what was going on tbh
  • kill living beings
    i've had "Blumenkranz" running in my head for two days now

    just anime things
  • kill living beings
    i got like eight likes for a dumb list i wrote because i was bothered by twitter discussions
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    iunno if he said that or not, people keep throwing that tidbit around on tumblr but i never see a source

    I get the feeling it might be taken out of context, maybe as part of a statement saying something along the lines of what you said. But then, Tumblr has a tendency to treat questionable statements as gospel...
  • edited 2014-11-07 17:22:54
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    naney said:

    iunno if he said that or not, people keep throwing that tidbit around on tumblr but i never see a source

    I get the feeling it might be taken out of context, maybe as part of a statement saying something along the lines of what you said. But then, Tumblr has a tendency to treat questionable statements as gospel...
    I get the feeling that what they're talking about is a mutation of this quote.

    To me, he's not really saying that they deserve to be abused there, but I can understand how it got mutated into him saying that.
  • i cant read that on account of highlighting the text not showing it on mobile
  • edited 2014-11-07 17:31:14

    i found a way

    and yeah i can see how tumblr would twist that around
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yeah, what he's saying is that people can do really horrible or thoughtless things out of what would normally be considered positive motivations, which applies just as much to the antagonists as the protagonists here.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Also... I thought that the bit with Sayaka and the two men on the train was pretty blunt in its anti-misogyny.
  • One reason I have found it very difficult to muster up the initiative to watch Madoka is that it seems to hate the genre it's a part of.

    That doesn't make for good fiction.

    Granted this is only going by a vague synopsis of the plot and a lot of analysis from other people.
  • it does kinda turn things upside down, but it works by it's own logic, not out of subversion of other works
  • edited 2014-11-07 19:10:28
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The premise riffs on some of the troubling implications of more conventional shows in the genre, but it's not about "ripping into" its genre. At its heart, it's a deconstructive Faustian parable that is also a magical girl show. There is no contempt there, even when it is being critical, and people really play up the critical aspect when it's more of a side-dish.

    Which is to say that I found it every moving and exciting and cool, and you should totally watch it regardless of how you feel about magical girl shows in general.
  • kill living beings
    thank god i was out of tvtropes before somebody could tell me it's a deconstruction, because then i'd never watch it (i haven't watched it but for no particular reason, well ok i don't like the faces much i guess)
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Madoka doesn't hate the genre it's part of.

    Neither does Cabin in the Woods.

    Funny Games and Spec Ops, now those are a movie and game that fucking hate the genre they're part of.
  • its a deconstruction i.e. it's not completely predictable
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    The full interview, in translation, is here.  In context, it can't be read as "they deserve to suffer", especially when you consider the last quote: 
    Madoka, the protagonist, made a certain decision at the end, and that was because she did not want to negate what the many mahou shoujo had wished for themselves.
    That's...pretty much the opposite of "they deserve to suffer".
  • things i know about funny games:

    1. it contains two Naked City songs

    ergo it is the best horror film
  • regarding me making a long meduka post: i came to the conclusion that i would have to think a lot to make this thing be coherent and i am in too poor of a mood after that terrible plasma donation to want to think too much
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    That's quite understandable.

    I hope that you feel better soon.
  • kill living beings
    oh what went wrong with plasma donation
  • bad stick, each return was increasingly painful, arm still kinda hurts and the lady didn't even say sorry
  • kill living beings
    sucks
  • the things i do for love
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Lilly said:

    The full interview, in translation, is here.  In context, it can't be read as "they deserve to suffer", especially when you consider the last quote: 

    Madoka, the protagonist, made a certain decision at the end, and that was because she did not want to negate what the many mahou shoujo had wished for themselves.
    That's...pretty much the opposite of "they deserve to suffer".
    Exactly!

    On a tangentially related note: People call a lot of things "deconstructions" when they aren't actually deconstructive, at least not in the postmoderist literary theory sense.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    the things i do for love

    *snuggles*

    You really are just the best and I am sorry. u_u
  • kill living beings

    People call a lot of things "deconstructions" when they aren't actually deconstructive, at least not in the postmoderist literary theory sense.
    hardly critique the colonial remnants inherent in this taco del mar menu at all
  • edited 2014-11-07 19:59:41
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    People call a lot of things "deconstructions" when they aren't actually deconstructive, at least not in the postmoderist literary theory sense.
    hardly critique the colonial remnants inherent in this taco del mar menu at all
    I mean it like this: Some works are a full top-down "why is X, X?" assessment and dissection of a genre, medium and/or style in that format's own language. Simply subverting a genre or putting a series of tropes in a more realistic situation for contrast does not make a work deconstructive.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Everyone being guilty of their own suffering is kinda-sorta a Buddhist thing. I mean, it's complicated.

    I could try to explain that. Badly.
  • kill living beings

    I mean it like this: Some works are a full top-down "why is X, X?" assessment and dissection of a genre, medium and/or style in that format's own language. Simply subverting a genre or putting a series of tropes in a more realistic situation for contrast does not make a work deconstructive.

    i have absolutely no reason to even begin to try to understand derrida so i stick with the onion
  • kill living beings
    nice
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    A timeless classic.
  • so basically Light is the guy from Hatred?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    naney said:
    that is both hilarious and wrong on so many levels
  • naney said:

    so basically Light is the guy from Hatred?

    no, Light is actually a decently interesting (if entirely and very deliberately unsympathetic) character, the guy from Hatred is just a power fantasy of a particularly disturbing kind.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    That's a real good story.
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    queer heterosexuality is a cool concept because it reveals way way less about queerness than it does what heterosexuals think queerness is, which in this case is apparently holding hands, cuddling and expressing any type of basic human affection

  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I don't understand
  • kill living beings
    amazeballs
  • edited 2014-11-10 19:32:21

    Odradek said:

    I don't understand

    there are heterosexual men who identify as "queer" because apparently demonstrating any level of affection towards another person is inherently non-heterosexual

    basically it's an extention of the "no homo" mindset
  • I bet they enjoy looking at the color pink too.
  • no, Light is actually a decently interesting (if entirely and very deliberately unsympathetic) character, the guy from Hatred is just a power fantasy of a particularly disturbing kind.

    I don't know anything about Hatred (and it doesn't sound like I want to) but Death Note is all about how disturbing power fantasies are bad.

    Also, I (unfortunately) know people who would disagree with you about the "entirely unsympathetic" part
  • Acererak said:

    no, Light is actually a decently interesting (if entirely and very deliberately unsympathetic) character, the guy from Hatred is just a power fantasy of a particularly disturbing kind.

    I don't know anything about Hatred (and it doesn't sound like I want to) but Death Note is all about how disturbing power fantasies are bad.

    Also, I (unfortunately) know people who would disagree with you about the "entirely unsympathetic" part
    So do I, but he's meant to be unsympathetic. People who think that this whole Kira business is a great idea don't change that.
  • edited 2014-11-13 20:22:44

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    HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

    BAKA.

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