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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    What would happen if Peter Pan ate at Wendy's?
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Fouria G said:

    This isn't really a suggestion, since I agree that characters should not be soapboxes, but it's possible to give a character a political voice without destroying their autonomy, isn't it?

    I mean, for example, Fussy isn't overtly political, but as a reader, I'd make certain assumptions about her attitude from the way she behaves and presents herself (i.e. she's a hippie), and that in itself doesn't come off as an endorsement or a criticism of said views so much as a fact of her personality.
    Right. The most she really does is flout societal norms and tease what little of the establishment they have there. She's basically being who she wants to be at the expense of a few characters, but I couldn't imagine bringing in an actual, real political problem to their little world. That just seems too cruel. 
  • edited 2012-06-03 15:41:05
    Let me tell you. About Fallen London.
    Man, Stardust is amazing. That's a pretty mild example of his sueness, actually.

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  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    Eventually Alan Moore came along and decided to teach stardust a lesson by placing him in his universe of comics in suspended animation, and one of his characters taking over the star that Stardust lives in, thus ruining Stardust for future generations. 


    I never did like Alan Moore. 

  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    That's horrifying.
  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    Bet Punisher could still take him, though.
  • edited 2012-06-03 15:51:40
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    "Man, Stardust is amazing. That's a pretty mild example of his sueness, actually."

    Wow...bad-fic!Pony!Justice is starting to look pretty tame...
  • The Punisher wishes he had a needle that vibrated to tell him when someone was about to commit crimes.

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  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    "Stardust's vast knowledge of interplanetart science has made him the most remarkable man that ever lived..."

    PffffttHahahahaha!
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    He's planning to use the gigantic vulture birds of Venus in some criminal way
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    That is truly astonishing.
  • edited 2012-06-03 16:00:53
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Oh Jesus, these are just too much. I love how a criminal mastermind that can make impressive rays to destroy whole population has an escape plan that involves hiding in a tree. 

    And how a girl who just lost EVERY FREAKIN' THING (including everyone she's known or loved) can't help but become attracted to Stardust immediately.

    I don't know whether to be disappointed or relieved that I can't even fake-write a mary sue to this level of absurdity.
  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    I think The Sentry could get him.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Today is June 3rd

    Theoretically, I could change my name. To something like Mary Sue
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I'm attempted to encourage this if only because it means three months of fictional attractive women flashing you their boobs because "they don't know what just came over them."
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Oh hell yes
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I could have changed mine a week ago.

    But I probably won't, because when people rename streets it's always to something cheesy and corporate like "Nationwide Boulevard" or something overly long-winded like "Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard."
  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    I just remembered to tell Imi that I just finished The Man Who Was Thursday.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Did you like it? I liked it.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    STARDUST CAPTURES THE CRIMINAL MASTERMIND

    Stardust: For stealing all that money from innocent people, I will now punish you in the worst way possible

    Criminal Mastermind: have mercy!

    Stardust: You had no mercy for your victims so there will be no mercy for you.  Because you love dollars so much....

    Stardust: You will become one! A Canadian dollar!

    Criminal Mastermind: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Stardust: and you will be crumply so that soda vending machines, in the far future, will reject you and spit you out every time!

    Criminal Mastermind: ARGH

    Stardust: and your structure will be so that no matter how many times you are pulled back and forth across the edge of the vending machine, you will never uncrumple!

    Criminal Mastermind: AIIIIEEE

    Stardust: And later you will be replaced by a coin with a copper insert that befuddles Americans! And when you are frozen, your little copper core pops out!

    Criminal Mastermind: now that's just ridiculous

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  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    @Imi

    I liked it, but it got kind of trippy at the end, and I could predict part of what happened.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I liked how it got trippy at the end...I usually consider that a plus.
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  • TUMUT CREW REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tumut
    I still don't get why Sunday did that.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    ..."Destructo's Ray", eh?
  • Huh. And I was worried that Tre was a Marty Stu.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Tre said:

    Huh. And I was worried that Tre was a Marty Stu.

    It really does put things into perspective, don't it?
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-06-03 17:11:05
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    Indeed.

    Also:

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    He has one helluva raepface.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I just realized how much bigger he is compared to all the other characters.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    look at his crotch


    he's the polar opposite of the goblin king

  • TreTre
    edited 2012-06-03 17:20:56
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    If those two panels didn't have any words I'd have thought that he'd be the one who wanted to go with her.

    Anyway, I guess I'd have to agree with Fouria about the whole "Mary Sues warp reality around themselves" thing. I've purposely tried to make my characters a bit less like that than before (especially Tre, who I actually think is more flawed than he is admirable) so that people wouldn't spout off "OH MY GOD LYLE'S MAKING HIS CHARACTERS PERFECT, LET'S LYNCH HIM".

    There's only one character I've created who I've deliberately not done that with, and he's a vampire who doesn't really do much plot-wise in Stuck, so. He's a parody of the "perfect human" archetype anyway, so I should be allowed.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.


    what

    does that mean
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
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    That seems pretty useful, and a lot better line in the sand than many people think when they read "mary-sue".

    I'm sure many people would still consider the character on the left a mary-sue.
  • edited 2012-06-03 17:55:03
    Let me tell you. About Fallen London.
    Well, she's still a catgirl :p

    Besides that, "clumsy" and "cries too much" are usually excuses for all the other characters to fawn over them. Which is the point: it's more in the way they're written, the context of the story, and how other characters interact with them than the laundry list of items that make up their biography.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    The first one looks just as sueish as the second one imo
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    For some reason I'm tempted to take up yuri.

    Except only I don't know where to start. -_-
  • edited 2012-06-03 18:00:11
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Well, she's still a catgirl :p

    Besides that, "clumsy" and "cries too much" are usually excuses for all the other characters to fawn over them. Which is the point: it's more in the way they're written, the context of the story, and how other characters interact with them than the laundry list of items that make up their biography.
    Yeah, she definitely runs the risk of being a sue depending how how she's treated.  


    The first one looks just as sueish as the second one imo

    That was sort of my initial gut reaction, but that was just because she was a cat-girl. Aside from that, the character is not overtly a sue as far as I can tell. But writing could easily push her in that direction.
  • edited 2012-06-03 18:02:29
    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    That was sort of my initial gut reaction, but that was just because she was a cat-girl.
    For me it was the whole popular clumsy nerd angle who is "bad at math"
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I think that's less sueism and more "overused character archetype-ism" 
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    For me it was the whole popular clumsy nerd angle who is "bad at math"

    It means that while she may not be a "mary sue", she's sure as hell 2-dimensional as they come
  • edited 2012-06-03 18:15:49
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Yeah, as some of the comments pointed out, she could still be considered a "bad character". I think the meow-mix thing actually has some potential, especially if it was pretty hard for her to change back. Even if she carries around an iPod with the meow-mix song on stand-by, it'd be amusing to try and see her change back if she only has paws.

    A bit less interesting if she can just change back, at will...
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Good Fookin' night
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the "GPAs" given are actually letter grades?
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    I never really understood those character stats/bios/whatever-the-hell-you-call-them off to the side. Is this something for other artists/authors to use or is it one of those silly things they deem necessary to inform you of?
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
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    This one made me facepalm, in a good way.
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    They're both pretty dire, but I can see the one on the left being tolerable, maybe even interesting, in the hands of a skillful writer.  The one on the right, not so much - the character is overloaded with talents and apparently lacks any weaknesses; without a radical overhaul I don't think there's much you could do with a character like that beyond perhaps turning her into a deity of some sort and largely removing her from the main plot.

    I never really understood those character stats/bios/whatever-the-hell-you-call-them off to the side. Is this something for other artists/authors to use or is it one of those silly things they deem necessary to inform you of?

    Some readers like that kind of thing (I'm quite fond of character profiles, honestly).

    Such profiles can be useful for authors who want to keep track of continuity, as well, although for that purpose I'd think it would be better to keep the profile private and revise it as the plot develops if necessary.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Oh okay. I've always seen them in a gallery in Deviantart, presented kind of like "here's OC A, OC B, " and that'd be the end of it. I was wondering if that was a part of their own stories or characters they "traded" around or what have you
  • edited 2012-06-03 18:49:12
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Hopefully they're being used for something...

    Then again, I find it hard to believe everyone's ponysona has made it into a fan-fic...

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