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  • My dreams exceed my real life
    People using "slight" as an adjective to mean insubstancial annoys me
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    yacht rock? that's a new one to me
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:
    I'm all for extolling the virtues of Steely Dan and taking a closer look at just how weird and subversive some early '70s soft rock really was (and how it influenced the post-punk avant-garde, e.g. Meat Puppets, Tuxedomoon, etc.), and I think the suggestion that a decent number of these musicians appropriated hyper-capitalist imagery as a way of undermining it is an interesting assertion, but the orthodox Marxist framing is such obvious pretentious claptrap.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The last paragraph is a truly sick burn, though.
  • edited 2017-02-26 20:50:42
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The linked article they did on Boston is way better overall, in my honest opinion.

    And the fact that this person goes by J. Temperance warms the cockles of my heart.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Vashdork, well know for insincere opinions.

    I think I'll read that later today. Helps that I generally like The New Inquiry, from the scatterings I've read.
  • edited 2017-02-26 20:54:50
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    I've read it, and I pretty much agree with Vash.

    I do at least appreciate not completely missing the point of Steely Dan's music like that Jacobin article the TNR one is responding to did.

    I have also generally liked what I've read of TNR, FWIW.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Jacobin tends to miss the point a lot. I feel like it's written primarily by people who have these very strong left-wing convictions but don't really know what being poor or disadvantaged actually means.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Incidentally "The Doobie Brothers" has always sounded like a fake band name someone would make up for a fictional yacht rock band as a joke
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Same. Very distinctly reminds me of the sorts of people I do my best not to associate with. And thanks for the input.
  • edited 2017-02-26 21:00:08
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    ^^^ I think that's the problem with most Internet socialism, honestly.

    Speaking of which, I think it's telling that Internet socialists who belong to minorities tend to be less annoying than white Internet socialists are.
  • kill living beings
    It's called a vanguard party
  • My dreams exceed my real life
  • kill living beings
    Man that guy is such a douche
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Man that guy is such a douche

    srHX9QO.jpg

    Just so everyone knows, I am done posting this now, I do not have five other things lined up
  • kill living beings
    It's a good one to stop on
  • edited 2017-02-26 21:20:27
    Transient.
    ^^^ I think that's the problem with most Internet socialism, honestly.
    It's also true of offline socialism, though.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    so yeah, cows
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'm really hoping that you're not one of those people who think that welfare and single-payer healthcare are the work of Satan, because for as understandable as your objections to the Maduro school of "this is how wealth redistribution works right" socialism are, there's a point at which opposition to a particular manifestation of an idea creeps over into the endorsement of equally terrible ideas.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...

    so yeah, cows

    Your face is a cow.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    thank you ^_^
  • edited 2017-02-26 21:43:17
    Transient.
    I'm really hoping that you're not one of those people who think that welfare and single-payer healthcare are the work of Satan, because for as understandable as your objections to the Maduro school of "this is how wealth redistribution works right" socialism are, there's a point at which opposition to a particular manifestation of an idea creeps over into the endorsement of equally terrible ideas.
    No, I don't think so. I think welfare, single-payer healthcare, public schooling are a very important for the maintenance of capitalistic society under a bourgeois democracy. Typical examples of this are the kind of wild capitalisms practiced in scandinavian countries. I'm all for it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    OK then. That is fair.

    I think you need to understand, though, that "socialism" encompasses a very broad expanse of different ideas and ideologies, and when somebody here, for instance, says that they think of themselves as a socialist, it's generally unfair to conflate their ideas with the sort of post-Leninist authoritarian tradition that Chavez and his successors operate within, to say the least.

    I could, for instance explain to you why I dislike Marx's take on communism, but why and how I also think that neoliberal capitalism as it currently exists is unsustainable and destructive, but your attitude towards socialist ideas *in general* makes me hesitant to explain myself to you, as I feel like my explanations might fall on deaf ears.
  • edited 2017-02-26 22:21:35
    Transient.
    Well, this conversation started with JacobinMag and some marxist writer, didn't it? I think it's fair to assume I'm referring to actual socialism, not social democracy or anything socialists consider wild capitalism.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    If on some off chance Moonlight or Arrival wins best picture, I look forward to people changing their opinions negatively overnight
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Odradek said:
    i (ill-advisedly) read enough of this to be reminded that there's an irony leftist dude who actually went to syria to go fight with the kurds and honestly i'm still kind of amazed by that
  • we live in a world where Rolling Stone wrote an article about a man known as Piss Pig Granddad
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I think you mean irony USG sponsored Zionist puppet nazi reactionary
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Dude
  • you have no clue how infinitely not in the mood I am for this discussion
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Gotcha
  • anyways I just went to a substantial and enjoyable Merce Cunningham retrospective
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    Applejack would totally have a beat-up old Ford pickup.


    Fluttershy would have a tiny little compact car.

    Rarity would drive a shiny luxury car with vanity plates.

    Rainbow Dash would have a sports car that she thinks is cool but everypony else thinks is a piece of junk.

    Twilight would do extensive research before buying a car, and end up with something efficient but totally dorky, like a Toyota Prius.

    Pinkie Pie...who knows. For some reason my first thought is the car Homer designed on The Simpsons.

  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Pinkie Pie's car wouldn't even be powered by what everyone else's is

    it would be some crazy thing only she knows how to operate
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    makes sense
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Anonus said:

    Pinkie Pie's car wouldn't even be powered by what everyone else's is


    it would be some crazy thing only she knows how to operate
    She honestly seems like she should have a Flintstones car.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Probably that too
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    palindrome page
  • so fresh and so CLEAN CLEAN
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    u clean
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The Oscars happens in an hour

    I look forward to the blank-eyed incomprehension that will happen if I bring it up to anybody IRL
  • man i love that song he does, about the trash
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    The Oscars: Only Slightly Less Inconsequential Than The Grammys
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tamlin said:

    man i love that song he does, about the trash

    I do actually not feel good that nobody in this shitty fucking city cares about movies that aren't by Adam Sandler or based on a novel EL James so I would appreciate it if just this once people didn't make fun of me for daring to choose to watch The Oscars
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Every time without fail, people try to make me feel small here over this, and I always hate it and just assume they won't do it again
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

    Tamlin said:

    man i love that song he does, about the trash

    I do actually not feel good that nobody in this shitty fucking city cares about movies that aren't by Adam Sandler or based on a novel EL James so I would appreciate it if just this once people didn't make fun of me for daring to choose to watch The Oscars
    do any of these people use "Hollyweird" or some such term
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    No, they do not care enough to do so
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    It's OK to appreciate good movies and, I mean, I can definitely see where the dissatisfaction with the general populace around here comes from but...

    it's an award show. Bleh
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