The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    I need to go sleep now

    Goodnight
  • edited 2012-04-25 17:47:13
    Let me tell you. About Fallen London.
    Fouria: feel better soon, old chum.

    ^^ *sneezes*
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Okay, GNW
  • Didn't Anonus want this place to stay low key?

    I don't really think a single poster (me) on a handful of obscure sites (haruhi.net, Unexplained Mysteries, and maybe but probably not OddFuture Talk) is really going to bump us up from low key to...anything but low key.

  • edited 2012-04-25 17:51:56
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    Lazuli: Sure, you can advertise elsewhere. Text doesn't use much bandwidth, and we don't host any images aside from avatars, so we should be fine for now.

    As for banned tropers and known troublemakers, we banned most of the worst ones back on Vanilla, and the app process should spot anyone who want to be a palooka (i.e. "getting sucker-punched all the time") or a shit-stirrer.
  • edited 2012-04-25 17:50:10
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  • lee: cool.

    As a note, by "advertise" I mean "ask some folks I know, and maybe put a link in my signature".

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  • edited 2012-04-25 17:53:45
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Hi, everyone. Wow, a lot has happened since last night, hasn't it?

    First off, Bobby, I'm sorry to hear about what's going on, and I hope you feel better soon.

    Second, about advertising. I was actually considering inviting a friend of mine from school on here. I think the most people we could get from that is about 3 or 4, but it's more likely going to be 1 or 2, if anyone actually comes. Would anyone object to that if I ever got around to it?
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    Lazuli: Yeah, that's what I figured, since that's how people usually advertised things back on TVT.
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  • edited 2012-04-25 17:55:04
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  • If we get big enough, I guess we'll just make the homepage the "Categories" thing Vanilla lets you change it to.
  • Second, about advertising. I was actually considering inviting a friend of mine from school on here. I think the most people we could get from that is about 3 or 4, but it's more likely going to be 1 or 2, if anyone actually comes. Would anyone object to that if I ever got around to it?

    Do eet.

    Yeah, I don't guarantee mine getting anyone at all. The only person who's even sort of likely to join is Moon Princess and we haven't spoken in a long time.

    ooh, I could maybe get Miss Hedgey from haruhi.net. Anyone remember her?

  • edited 2012-04-25 17:59:22
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    Squid: possibly, but the entire database was something like 20 MB of raw SQL when I imported it. That's a drop in the bucket these days. 

    I'm not sure how Garden stores messages, but it's got to be better than the way TVT does it (each thread is its own table, and I get the feeling MySQL doesn't like that above a certain number of rows).
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    No need to be; most of this stuff is back-end implementation specific anyhow. Translated, it means we hav plenty of room to grow.
  • I'm just here to gay the place up
    I think some people need a hug :)
  • Hai Matt!!! (*Hugs Matt*)
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:10:58
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    Congratulations on adminship, Lee.

    Thanks, Haven, Professor Gator and, well, everybody for the support.  I'm OK right now.  I'm a lot better than I was, so please don't worry about me.

    And I do remember Miss Hedgey.

    Hello Matt. :)
  • If there's like a MASSIVE INFLUX of users, will we ever have to run banner ads?

    I'd be willing to turn my blocker off. I used to say that for TVT, but now... ehh...
  • I don't think there's any room for banner ads.

    And if we get a MASSIVE INFLUX of new users, it'll probably be from a MASSIVE OUTFLUX at TVT rather than anything.

  • Well, AdSense is runnable on Vanilla with an add-on, so...
  • That's what I worry about.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    There's a lot of space on the left and right that could be used for banner ads (posting from a laptop via Firefox).
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Gator I like seeing new posters. :]

    Do eet

    Okay, then. I'll try it out.

    In other news, this morning, I felt really bad. I'm a bit better now, but still hoping this weird disease goes away quickly.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    That sucks.  I hope you feel better soon.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    BOBBY! 

    THROW OWN AN AVATAR AND HANG OUT WITH THE COOL KIDS!

    A SIZABLE PORTION OF US DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TVT, ANYWAY! 
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    "I'm not sure how Garden stores messages, but it's got to be better than the way TVT does it (each thread is its own table, and I get the feeling MySQL doesn't like that above a certain number of rows)."

    "(each thread is its own table, and I get the feeling MySQL doesn't like that above a certain number of rows)."

    "each thread is its own table"

    I AM NOW SEETHING WITH IRRECONCILABLE RAGE!
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:30:42
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ^^ Lol.  Hi Justice. :)

    Better?
  • I'm a loser. Also, Creeper. And a woman.
    Dark Twilight. :P
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Yay! Avatars and Ponies! All is right in the world.
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:33:09
    Let me tell you. About Fallen London.
    ^
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  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    ^^ Glee!
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:37:26
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    @ Irene: Try dark Princess Cadance. or is it? (watch the finale Irene it's really good) :p

    @ Justice: :D

    You know I asked about the table for every thread thing a while back and Eddie said it was for performance reasons.  Apparently it makes the threads easier to move, delete and such, which I suppose it would.  That site doesn't generally have a problem with storage space (except when people upload literally fucktons of avatars); bandwidth and processor time are more of an issue there.  According to Eddie processing is actually faster when each thread has its own table, don't know if somebody more tech savvy than me (not difficult) can confirm this?
  • I'm a loser. Also, Creeper. And a woman.
    I saw the finale.

    ...I saw what looks like a dark version of Twilight from first glance. XD
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    It might make sense from a performance POV. Conceptually, it's pretty retarded. 

    I suppose issues such as a thread being made that might be named the same as another table that does something else could be addressed by appending something to the name. 

    Still, that data model has got to look like ass. 

    And there other ways to address performance...assuming MySQL has indexes or something.
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    It's easier to move entire tables around, yes, but it's also awful schema design. For a forum, you'd typically have one big table with all the messages in it, then categorize them by IDs you'd set in a different table. That's assuming you even bothered with SQL in the first place, and didn't just run it as a Usenet-style spooler and make each message a file. 

    If you design the schema and queries well, the database can do a lot of your thinking for you, and putting entire threads in one table removes that possibility. 
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:48:14
    I'm just here to gay the place up
    Haiya Naney et al :3 Boy, I really need to remember to get a pony av up when I get home!
  • edited 2012-04-25 18:48:15
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    ^^This.

    Minus the usenet-style thing. I'm a SQL guy. :P
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Thanks, Bobby and squid. :)

    I just had a steam shower that helped a bit. I'll probably make some tea a little later.
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  • edited 2012-04-25 18:52:42
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Chai is good. Especially vanilla chai and apple chai spice.

    I also like green tea and black tea about the same overall. There are some varieties of each I prefer over the others.

    I'll probably make myself either white chai or chamomile, though.
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  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Tea is da bomb diggity.

    Friday and I have an absurd amount of different flavors.

    I love Thai Iced tea, but it requires a tad more effort to make with all the sweet and condensed milk and the steeping until everythigng the tea touches is stained orange forever. 
  • "Thanks, Haven, Professor Gator and, well, everybody for the support. 
    I'm OK right now.  I'm a lot better than I was, so please don't worry
    about me."

    Okay, good to hear that. You've always been one of the people on my list of people on TVT who I'd like to get to know better but never got around to interacting with you much.
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    And yeah, MySQL has indexes. I think InnoDB may actually be turned on by default these days, at least on Debian. :lol: Hell, even SQLite has indexes and it's usually distributed as one (huge) wad of source code.
  • edited 2012-04-25 19:15:56
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    ^^Same here. I know you've probably heard this a million times, but you seem pretty cool. It would be nice if you could come here more often.
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