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  • OFF is not nearly as influential as Cave Story and its line of influence is much smaller and easier to trace.

    OFF's problems are its own, but it's also passed them on to dozens of other games without passing on anything that made it interesting.
  • edited 2015-09-27 04:23:29
    Touch the cow. Do it now.
    is that the fault of OFF, or the fault of game creators who tried to imitate it and got it wrong?
  • Changing the names of the swords and mana potions doesn't make them not that, you know.

    You can call them pencils and crackers or whatever, they're still swords and potions and the core gameplay of your game is still boring as hell.

    OFF had an interesting story and world built around an extremely dull, ISO-standard JRPG core. This has lead to many games that do not have stories or worlds as interesting as OFF's copying only that second part.

    But they're "quirky" cuz the swords and mana potions are called something different.

    This doesn't make a game awful in of itself (recall a certain hospital-themed JRPG) but it's not a good foot to start on.

    And maybe blaming OFF for all of that is unfair, but they're problems OFF itself has too.
  • kill living beings
    marathon two has a lot of underwater pugilism

    fuck that tbh
  • Changing the names of the swords and mana potions doesn't make them not that, you know.


    You can call them pencils and crackers or whatever, they're still swords and potions and the core gameplay of your game is still boring as hell.

    OFF had an interesting story and world built around an extremely dull, ISO-standard JRPG core. This has lead to many games that do not have stories or worlds as interesting as OFF's copying only that second part.

    But they're "quirky" cuz the swords and mana potions are called something different.

    This doesn't make a game awful in of itself (recall a certain hospital-themed JRPG) but it's not a good foot to start on.

    And maybe blaming OFF for all of that is unfair, but they're problems OFF itself has too.
    I do remember that Ghost Suburbs 2's combat was also kind of a butt. 

    I'll admit, I did like the idea of changing combat terms to fit the story, and it's something I incorporated into School Theatre. Of course, I put a bit more work into how combat works. 
  • I'm probably missing something but where did anyone say that OFF was a game breaker in JRPG mechanics? and what influence does it have are you speaking of?

    I'm personally more inclined to put the blame on how limited RPGMaker is, but I'm only going by what I've read by others
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?
  • Aliroz said:

    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?

    No.
  • Acererak said:

    Aliroz said:

    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?

    No.
    what makes you say that?

    I'm kind of curious. 
  • I'd say I don't know enough of Aliroz to say whether or not he'd like Mad Max or its Sequels.
  • Aliroz said:

    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?

    I haven't seen much of it, but what i have seen (the Humungus scenes, for the most part) has been noble but also gruesome. So, maybe not.

    Also, tons of sweaty guys with their shirts off. I am, like, 95% sure that's not your jam.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    @Acerak: Look out, we got a real thinker over here.

    Someone finally figured out that parts of the bible seem/are illogical or outright impossible/insane, this changes everything!

    Time to go secular and start using the metric system, we got some PURE REASON happening around these parts! Let me get my gas mask and run to the shelter, truth bombs be dropping all over the place.

    Someone had two scoops of Validity in their analysis cereal today. This article be so piercing, kids in China better hope it doesn't fall all the way to them when he drops it like a meteor on foolish Abrahamic Dinosaur-Thought!
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    i know you're being sarcastic there but i think we should all support lincoln chafee's push to move to the metric system in america
  • Aliroz said:

    @Acerak: Look out, we got a real thinker over here.

    Someone finally figured out that parts of the bible seem/are illogical or outright impossible/insane, this changes everything!

    Time to go secular and start using the metric system, we got some PURE REASON happening around these parts! Let me get my gas mask and run to the shelter, truth bombs be dropping all over the place.

    Someone had two scoops of Validity in their analysis cereal today. This article be so piercing, kids in China better hope it doesn't fall all the way to them when he drops it like a meteor on foolish Abrahamic Dinosaur-Thought!

    -hug-

    I have missed you
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Realtalk: I think we can use both metric and imperial, and make conversions.

    But I'm not giving up a perfectly good system just because it doesn't have nice clean base ten unit conversions.

    Sillytalk: We got to the moon on imperial. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, other nations! WE GOT TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOON!

    THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    man nasa uses metric for most things actually

    lockheed martin used imperial and it fucked up an orbiter
  • edited 2015-09-27 05:12:34
    Aliroz said:

    @Acerak: Look out, we got a real thinker over here.

    Someone finally figured out that parts of the bible seem/are illogical or outright impossible/insane, this changes everything!

    Time to go secular and start using the metric system, we got some PURE REASON happening around these parts! Let me get my gas mask and run to the shelter, truth bombs be dropping all over the place.

    Someone had two scoops of Validity in their analysis cereal today. This article be so piercing, kids in China better hope it doesn't fall all the way to them when he drops it like a meteor on foolish Abrahamic Dinosaur-Thought!

    what, you don't talk to burning bushes 

    get with the times
  • Acererak said:

    Aliroz said:

    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?

    No.
    what makes you say that?

    I'm kind of curious. 
    ...actually, Mad Max is very positive when it comes to portraying human nature. I might be wrong
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    i made lots of jokes about burning bushes when george dubya was in the white house tbh
  • edited 2015-09-27 05:24:42
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Only since the eighties. I mean, the computers that got us to the moon were in SI, but their input and output were in a converted US imperial. The humans/scientists used Imperial to get to the moon.

    There is no inherent deficiency with imperial, other than being slightly more difficult for humans to use.

    I think that having multiple systems is a good thing. We need more than one way to measure, to think, to speak. It opens the mind, in my opinion.

    No universal language. No universal weight.


    But that's my view.

  • kill living beings
    fart
  • I can understand using Imperial units in casual settings. The foot is a lot less unwieldy than the yard for some stuff
  • positive feelings: I liked MMZ as a kid and I still like it
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    i don't think i can imagine using metric in cooking

    but on the other hand, lockheed martin using imperial when nasa used metric and crashing a mars orbiter is lol
  • edited 2015-09-27 06:40:41
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I really need more insulin.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    Would I enjoy Mad max, its sequels, or its remake?

    You might like Beyond Thunderdome
  • I'm on a train
  • Nearly left my suitcase on the train.

    Whoops.
  • My new favourite thing is watching people get ready to board a fancy train, only for the train to go and be replaced with the actual train they'll be getting, which is shitty compared to the previous train. The looks on their faces are priceless.
  • im feeling a lil delicate this morning but had s great night

    also i got no sleep
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Toolsie said:

    My new favourite thing is watching people get ready to board a fancy train, only for the train to go and be replaced with the actual train they'll be getting, which is shitty compared to the previous train. The looks on their faces are priceless.

    that sounds hilarious
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Toolsie said:

    I'm on a train

    trains are pretty cool imho
  • I love trains. I can sit there and do fuck all whilst I'm taken from one place to another. 

    The scenery is pretty gorgeous, too. 
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    My city doesn't have any sort of passenger rail or light rail so the closest experience I get is buses.

    Let me tell you though, on those icy winter days it sure is satisfying to be able to take a bus back and forth to campus instead of having to drive in the treacherous weather.
  • Most of the large cities in the UK have light rail around the inner city and into the suburbs surrounding the CBD. 

    London has the Tube...

    Sheffield, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh (off the top of my head...) all have trams...
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    *hears drumming coming from nearby*

    Oh hey, my sister's up!
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    Los Angeles has less passenger rail than really it should.  The places where I live and work are going to have rail there in like 2025 or something.
  • Stress levels are through the roof.

    Whoops.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    cuantochingo:    stop erasing them
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i assume this is satire
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    this page, that is

    everything on this page will be satire
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Remember when well-meaning people who talk at high schools tried to convince us that emo wasn't a subculture, because it was a genre of music, and clearly it could not be both
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    no

    though the disparity between the two styles of music termed 'emo' was always a little odd to me
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Crowley is hardcore
  • edited 2015-09-27 18:45:17
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Uniformitarianism is a first principle of science. It holds that the fundamental natural laws and constants do not change over time.

    The laws of physics are the same today as they always were.

    Based on this, we know that carbon decays at a reasonably constant rate, and that the canyons and valleys of the world could only have been carved over millions of years.

    It is unfalsifiable, but so is the principle that life is real and we aren't all hallucinating everything.

    I think creationists would be more interesting if they woulf question the unverifiable first principles, rather than stuff that has been measured and tested repeatedly (like evolution). It might be interesting where that goes. Or it might be boring. At least it would be a change.

    I kinda like to imagine worlds where uniformitarianism is false.

  • when i was in high school I made the mistake of attending a schoolboard meeting in an attempt to be 'politically active' and I heard a woman in her 40s suggest with a completely straight face that our school dress code should ban the color black because it's (this is a direct quote) "Lucifer's color".

    the other members of the board then proceeded to debate this as though it were a serious issue instead of dismissing it as shoelace-eating lunacy, and it took up almost the entire time of the meeting.
  • that is impressive
  • I gained like 8 Cynicism Points that day
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