The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • My dreams exceed my real life
    naney said:


    • The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear
    Yay me too!
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i'm allowed to think they shouldn't have changed Harley's costume, though, right?

    tbh i've mostly avoided Suicide Squad reactions/hype out of being generally tired of superhero flicks, and i don't really differentiate between Marvel and DC since i was never a huge fan of either
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    i'm allowed to think they shouldn't have changed Harley's costume, though, right?

    tbh i've mostly avoided Suicide Squad reactions/hype out of being generally tired of superhero flicks, and i don't really differentiate between Marvel and DC since i was never a huge fan of either

    Harley needs to fit the Joker, and that's how a groupie of Hot Topic discount Manson Joker would dress
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I don't even like the Joker anymore.
  • Batman will not be played by Adam West, ergo it will be garbage.

    That's just how it works.

    I want to travel to the universe where they have grimdark Adam West batman.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    Tachyon said:

    i'm allowed to think they shouldn't have changed Harley's costume, though, right?

    tbh i've mostly avoided Suicide Squad reactions/hype out of being generally tired of superhero flicks, and i don't really differentiate between Marvel and DC since i was never a huge fan of either

    Harley needs to fit the Joker, and that's how a groupie of Hot Topic discount Manson Joker would dress
    Fair point.

    The TAS costume was iconic, though.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    MachSpeed said:

    I don't even like the Joker anymore.

    I still like the Joker. I even still like Heath Ledger's portrayal of him.

    I just am highly skeptical of this version of him.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
     They should have made an Adam West DLC for the Arkham games, where everything is completely the same, except Batman is voiced by and looks like Adam West Batman. And reacts to things like he would.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    naney said:

    Batman will not be played by Adam West, ergo it will be garbage.

    That's just how it works.

    I want to travel to the universe where they have grimdark Adam West batman.

    Kevin Conroy's fine by me, too.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I really hope WB hasn't found some way to avoid giving Bruce Timm and Paul Dini money or credit for Harley's appearance in this

    As far as mainstreamers who don't remember/care about BTAS are concerned, this is her debut
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:40:48
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Anonus said:

    I really hope WB hasn't found some way to avoid giving Bruce Timm and Paul Dini money or credit for Harley's appearance in this


    As far as mainstreamers who don't remember/care about BTAS are concerned, this is her debut
    TBF, mainstreamers may know her from the Arkham Asylum games.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The Dark Knight is kind of a lame movie except for Heath Ledger's Joker
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:41:55
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i actually didn't enjoy The Dark Knight

    i watched Begins and Rises and enjoyed them, but idk, i had a weird reaction when i watched The Dark Knight

    i'll even accept it was the better movie of the three, somehow it just bothered me
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Looks like, yes. Many of the Arkham games have Adam West skins.

    Sounds like, no.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Maxie Zeus movie 2017
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i dislike the word "mainstreamers"
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I also don't like Batnolan anymore.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Odradek said:

    The Dark Knight is kind of a lame movie except for Heath Ledger's Joker

    I can agree with this, honestly.


    Tachyon said:

    i dislike the word "mainstreamers"

    I think AU was using it in substitute for "normies", which is even worse.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i dislike normies as well
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:45:55
    Tachyon said:

    @glennmagusharvey that's kinda odd to me, because i'd have said Nichijou and Monty Python both have more in common with Look Around You than asdfmovie, and i'd file YouTube Poop under blaring rapidfire internet wacky offensive crazy videos

    It is odd to me too, and I haven't figured out the pattern yet.

    I wonder if it might help if I add what I like/dislike about each:

    * Look Around You: it's deadpan in its seriousness, plus occasional dashes of subtle puns/jokes.  The deadpanness continues and acts as if the absurd circumstances are perfectly normal, which is quite amusing.
    * YTMND: I'm not really sure, but it's probably something about just assuming meaning from nothing.  And specifically with the Alternate Universes, it's taking those jokes to new heights, by which I mean overly long gags.  And lots and LOTS of mutation.  I love the mutation.  Taking elements of a formerly coherent thing (or even a somewhat-incoherent meme) and altering them.  Not sure why mutation is this funny to me, but it is.  I think it has to do with using mental associations in unusual ways -- like thinking "perpendicular" to the original context.  Puns do the same thing.
    * Youtube Poop: I think it's the irreverence and distractedness.  Like, paying attention to everything _but_ the intended meaning/context.  Not just making fun of stuff, but making fun of it in a way that's also making fun of oneself, or just so irrelevant that it's basically like childish splashing things around, and also being completely distracted by the shiny possibilities for making fun of stuff in very silly ways, such as like drawing googly eyes on things.  I don't like the ones that have an excess of sex jokes, or anything that makes "too much sense" in offensive or otherwise "relevant" ways though.
    * Teen Girl Squad: it's quite random and irrelevant, but the insane stuff just sorta happens, like in Look Around You, as opposed to being specially pointed out as being especially weird/crazy.

    * Monty Python: it just seems..."monkey cheese" random.  Like, I know it's parodying the Arthurian legend, but the jokes just...seem to be just there.  It's not even like, mocking anything in particular either.  It's just sorta contextless and unassociated, I guess?  Also kinda unsubtle.
    * Nichijou: It's deadpan, but again it just seems to come out of nowhere...and is really, really overacted.  In fact that problem of overacting is frequent in anime comedy.
    * asdfmovie and other loudcrazywacky internet stuff: too loud, too exaggerated, too unsubtle, too grotesque.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    What term should we use, then?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Like I feel like the only way Batman can satisfy me consistently anymore is in comics, because there are a plurality of creators acting in concert rather than a committee trying to sell a bunch of other things.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    If all you've seen of Monty Python is the Holy Grail, you've missed out.
  • Is anyone else really tired of having to formulate opinions on things they really have no opinions on.

    sometimes i feel like that one Onion article where Obama and John McCain are complaining about having to make a statement on whether they are for/against some potential coal mining related thing that neither of them know anything about or care about at all.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    MachSpeed said:

    Like I feel like the only way Batman can satisfy me consistently anymore is in comics, because there are a plurality of creators acting in concert rather than a committee trying to sell a bunch of other things.

    What about BTAS?

    That was a plurality of creators acting in concert, too.
  • Like, I know it's parodying the Arthurian legend

    what???
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    and, i dunno, it was a good performance

    i just remember sitting there, and i think he'd just shot a vehicle with a rocket launcher or something and there was a big dramatic explosion, y'know, the usual movie spectacle, and i just remember suddenly thinking, 'why am i watching this?  this isn't entertaining, this is sick'

    and i watched to the end but that coloured the rest of it for me, Batman hitting the Joker, the evesdropping on the phones, all of it

    i don't normally react like that so i'm not sure why that movie in particular set me off
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:49:19
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    Like, I know it's parodying the Arthurian legend

    what???
    He saw Life of Brian and thinks all of Monty Python only ever parodied King Arthur, somehow.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I watched a lot more animated Superman than I watched animated Batman. Those were the DVDs I owned at the time.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    What term should we use, then?

    IMO?  No term.

    Use whatever words you want man, i don't get to tell you what to say.
  • also BTAS is one of the most popular and critically acclaimed action cartoons of all time what are y'all talking about
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Tachyon said:

    What term should we use, then?

    IMO?  No term.

    Use whatever words you want man, i don't get to tell you what to say.
    Fair, fair.


    also BTAS is one of the most popular and critically acclaimed action cartoons of all time what are y'all talking about

    I was praising it, myself.
  • Tachyon said:

    and i'm not familiar with the YTMND four corners thing

    Basically, someone noticed that the YTMND banner is in the upper left corner, and started coming up with similar-looking banners named after other lines from the same scene where "You're the man now dog" comes from.

    Then, other people started similarly "mutating" other notable YTMND sites.  For example, "lol, internet", featuring Ronald McDonald, set to the Eurobeat song "Running in the 90s", got mutated into "omg, internet", featuring The King (from Burger King), set to the Eurobeat song "Golden Age".

    This was done for a large number of famous YTMND sites.
  • naney said:

    Is anyone else really tired of having to formulate opinions on things they really have no opinions on.

    sometimes i feel like that one Onion article where Obama and John McCain are complaining about having to make a statement on whether they are for/against some potential coal mining related thing that neither of them know anything about or care about at all.

    "what did you think of the new Drake/Future mixtape"
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I'm saying that I didn't watch that much of it when it was airing because my only avenue of viewing were five episode DVDs bought on visits to the States or the island.
  • Anonus said:

    FWIW, I'm fine with you not liking Homestar, Tach.

    You're not perverse with your tastes like GMH is.

    that second sentence is phrased a little, uh, meanly
    ... I'm sorry. I haven't been in a very good mood the past few days and I keep taking it out on people. >_>
    Don't worry about it.  Maybe due to our past good interactions, I didn't perceive that as an insult, just a good-natured joke.  (This is a slightly blunt, but true, statement on my part.)
  • MachSpeed said:

    If all you've seen of Monty Python is the Holy Grail, you've missed out.

    Admittedly, the Spanish Inquisition sequence is pretty funny, as is Spam.

    But they're still a bit forced.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    There are no critics of Batman in Shanghai, and thus I could not hear them elsewhere.
  • Like, I know it's parodying the Arthurian legend

    what???
    He saw Life of Brian and thinks all of Monty Python only ever parodied King Arthur, somehow.
    I derped and should have specified Holy Grail.  Sorry about that.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    They're the best-known jokes, but hardly the best jokes.
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:53:37
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    oh wait, Life of Brian was the one about Jesus

    derp
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    * Monty Python: it just seems..."monkey cheese" random.  Like, I know it's parodying the Arthurian legend, but the jokes just...seem to be just there.  It's not even like, mocking anything in particular either.  It's just sorta contextless and unassociated, I guess?  Also kinda unsubtle.

    The Holy Grail is definitely not all the Pythons were capable of, but the reason that movie works for me is *because* it's not really a parody of the Arthurian legend, they do that a bit but then they go off at ridiculous tangents and throw other bizarre things in there.  i just love the wackiness of it, and the jokes are also great.

    * Nichijou: It's deadpan, but again it just seems to come out of nowhere...and is really, really overacted.  In fact that problem of overacting is frequent in anime comedy.


    See generally i don't like overacted anime comedy, but Nichijou amuses me because they take it to such extremes, so that it goes well past the point where it might have been irritating and becomes hilarious.
  • naney said:

    Is anyone else really tired of having to formulate opinions on things they really have no opinions on.

    sometimes i feel like that one Onion article where Obama and John McCain are complaining about having to make a statement on whether they are for/against some potential coal mining related thing that neither of them know anything about or care about at all.

    I sometimes wonder if the ability to come up with an opinion on anything within seconds is a politician skill.

    In a possibly bad way.

    naney said:

    Is anyone else really tired of having to formulate opinions on things they really have no opinions on.

    sometimes i feel like that one Onion article where Obama and John McCain are complaining about having to make a statement on whether they are for/against some potential coal mining related thing that neither of them know anything about or care about at all.

    "what did you think of the new Drake/Future mixtape"
    "It combines a variety of meaningful elements into a curiously coherent whole."
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:57:14
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Actually, i'd say The Holy Grail works for me partly because it feels a lot like the TV show, i.e. a series of at most very loosely related sketches.

    The Life of Brian was a lot more coherent as a movie, but i actually liked it somewhat less.
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:58:38
    Tachyon said:

    The Holy Grail is definitely not all the Pythons were capable of, but the reason that movie works for me is *because* it's not really a parody of the Arthurian legend, they do that a bit but then they go off at ridiculous tangents and throw other bizarre things in there.  i just love the wackiness of it, and the jokes are also great.

    They're certainly iconic.  I just felt they were contextless but presented as parody, and as a result didn't work, or tried too hard to point out that they were making a joke in the first place.
    Tachyon said:

    See generally i don't like overacted anime comedy, but Nichijou amuses me because they take it to such extremes, so that it goes well past the point where it might have been irritating and becomes hilarious.

    I guess I can understand this.

    Incidentally I feel more ambivalent (less negative I mean) about Azumanga Daioh, which has a somewhat gentler sense of humor.

    I don't actually hate Nichijou; I just am not entertained by it.  AzuDai is more amusing.
  • I feel like watching Angel Beats.

    By this I mean "the theme song came into my head again".  This means I should watch it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    Is anyone else really tired of having to formulate opinions on things they really have no opinions on.

    sometimes i feel like that one Onion article where Obama and John McCain are complaining about having to make a statement on whether they are for/against some potential coal mining related thing that neither of them know anything about or care about at all.

    Same, mostly.

    Like, most of the shows I like are Japanese animation for whatever reason, but the vast majority of anime is stuff I don't care about at all and don't feel like I should need to formulate an opinion on. But this is nothing compared to, say, when people here talk about console games.
  • Like, most of the shows I like are Japanese animation for whatever reason, but the vast majority of anime is stuff I don't care about at all and don't feel like I should need to formulate an opinion on.

    Definitely agreed on "I don't want to care about and have an opinion regarding the existence of [show] either way".
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    i'll agree that Azumanga Daioh is gentler humour, yes.

    Nichijou is extremely funny to me, but sometimes i do prefer something a little more laidback.
  • I just don't like exaggeration I guess.

    Correspondingly, I am very entertained by understatement.
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