The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • My dreams exceed my real life
    He's the writer people think Gen Urobuchi is
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Shaun of the Dead is a good movie and I will not be told otherwise.
  • Vriska said:

    Dusty you need to keep your cone of shame on.


    You can't heal your stitches by licking them. You do not have magic spit.

    Fortunately it has been sealed with duct tape and ain't coming off until I take it off. (The cone of shame I mean, not Dusty's mouth.)

    Dogs have healing spit, but alas, kitties must heal purely with cuddles. u-u
    Kitties may have healing purrs, so I guess that's something. :3
  • Vriska said:

    You can't heal your stitches by licking them. You do not have magic spit.

    Dusty Universe
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Watching these reviews is just making me marvel at what a bizarre incomprehensible series of non sequiturs Sonichu would be to anyone who read it without knowledge of Chris's life.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Clyde Cash was way less creative, funny, and imaginative than Chris.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The former Jack Thaddeus once came into the SA TvT thread to talk about what a weird angry person Clyde was, and the thread refused to believe it.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

    Clyde Cash was way less creative, funny, and imaginative than Chris.

    yep
  • edited 2015-09-22 23:47:01
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    Odradek said:

    Clyde Cash was way less creative, funny, and imaginative than Chris.

    That's pretty true for all the trolls, besides maybe Liquid Chris.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Yeah, Liquid Chris was probably the best.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I mean look at this.

    Clyde Cash never made a video this good in his goddamn life
  • Haven said:

    Vriska said:

    You can't heal your stitches by licking them. You do not have magic spit.

    Dusty Universe
    Since I am Dusty's adopted mom would that make me a Crystal Gem?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Chris did have a certain flair for the absurd, despite the small reference pools and the whining.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

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    toon zone could attract some odd people
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    That sounds like the sorts of people that complained about, say, Road Rovers being cancelled, or Animaniacs having to end at all.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    There were actually people who liked the Lola character?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Whittier Street was closed north of I-70 in the 1990s and this overpass has stood unused ever since

    It's one of the few through that stretch of highway that's visibly rusty because all the active overpasses still get a fresh coat of paint every so often
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Been thinking some more about "dark stuff".

    i have never had a problem with dark music in itself.  In fact heavy metal was some of the first music i really liked.  For a long time i found certain extreme metal styles offputting, but that wasn't about them being too dark, it was about the vocals, which to me were like, taking a really good painting and pouring petrol over it.  Like, they weren't too dark, they were just annoying, distracting from music i'd otherwise like.

    Where written fiction is concerned, Gone Baby Gone by Dennis Lehane was too dark for me.  i had to read it for uni, by the end of the book i absolutely despised it.  It wasn't the most disturbing story i've read, but i think what made it so unpleasant was the sheer unrelenting cynicism and misanthropy.

    Conversely, i've been an enthusiastic fan of two works of fiction which i think qualify as genuinely dark.  One of those was Puella Magi Madoka Magica, which is largely concerned with suffering and misery but which builds towards a kind of catharsis which borders on the spiritual, which for me justifies the dark tone overall.

    The other was American McGee's Alice and its sequel Alice: Madness Returns, which is definitely an odd title out among things i've liked.  i think the thing was, the first game was simply an enjoyable platformer/third person shooter hybrid with very superficial, fairly tacky horror elements.  It was fun, and too campy to really register as truly dark.  Then the sequel was a LOT darker but had gorgeous visuals and was the sequel to a game i liked, so i fell in love with it anyway.
  • Flatmate is watching Fresh Off The Boat.

    He was watching the Muppets show earlier.

    I felt vaguely annoyed by the Muppets show (whatever it's called).

    I feel offended by Fresh Off The Boat for its piles of Asian-American stereotypes.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    You do realize that Fresh Off The Boat is autobiographical, right?
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I appreciate that Fresh off the Boat was created by one of the producers of Pepper Ann
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also fuck the new Muppets show is tonight?
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the Muppets are great, though
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i think wrt "nerds' kneejerk dislike of grimdark", that's a reaction to a specific tendency found in comic books and video games, the "hardboiling" of franchises that were previously considered child-friendly, which usually (though not inherently) entails the ramping up of violence and cynicism with no accompanying increase in quality.  That's probably left a lot of nerds with a bit of a distaste for darkness in fiction, since it's become associated with a very superficial kind of maturity.
  • Actually it's not just the Asian-American stereotypes.

    It's portraying various other people as assholes/idiots just for laughs.

    I don't like that.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    the Muppets are great, though

    this is a new take on the Muppets

    the DVR is recording it, and I won't be watching it as it airs here in Denver because I'll be doing other things
  • edited 2015-09-23 00:57:56
    MachSpeed said:

    You do realize that Fresh Off The Boat is autobiographical, right?

    So?

    Doesn't mean it can't be offensive.
  • Anonus said:

    Also fuck the new Muppets show is tonight?

    Yeah, flatmate was itching to watch it.

    Turns out it's just some off-color jokes featuring Muppets characters.  I don't see how it's so funny.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    People ARE assholes and idiots. I know because I am both at once.
  • Tachyon said:

    i think wrt "nerds' kneejerk dislike of grimdark", that's a reaction to a specific tendency found in comic books and video games, the "hardboiling" of franchises that were previously considered child-friendly, which usually (though not inherently) entails the ramping up of violence and cynicism with no accompanying increase in quality.  That's probably left a lot of nerds with a bit of a distaste for darkness in fiction, since it's become associated with a very superficial kind of maturity.

    I thought nerds have a kneejerk enjoyment of grimdark.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Well, not just comic books and video games, it happens in SF as well (e.g. Torchwood)

    but it's specific to media and genres which are associated with children but have cult adult followings, a category which most fiction traditionally considered "geek entertainment" falls into
  • all I know about Fresh Off The Boat is that Danny Brown did the theme tune.
  • I freely admit that I don't like the vast majority of things that could be described as "grimdark"

    I am rarely (though from time to time) actually offended by them, but they're just largely not my style.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Its a story about an Asian-American, BY an Asian-American, and that experience and perspective cannot be discounted just because it's a little ugly. Stereotypes are bad, but they are rooted in a larger context that relates to culture, economics, and other large scale systems.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    i think wrt "nerds' kneejerk dislike of grimdark", that's a reaction to a specific tendency found in comic books and video games, the "hardboiling" of franchises that were previously considered child-friendly, which usually (though not inherently) entails the ramping up of violence and cynicism with no accompanying increase in quality.  That's probably left a lot of nerds with a bit of a distaste for darkness in fiction, since it's become associated with a very superficial kind of maturity.

    I thought nerds have a kneejerk enjoyment of grimdark.
    Not in my experience.

    Teenage nerds, maybe, which is one of the reasons the 'hardboiling of franchises' happens (the other being that niche media often suffer from a kind of inferiority complex - in relation to literary fiction in the case of comic books, fantasy and SF; in relation to movies in the case of games - and attempt to compensate by piling on the grit and misery).
  • MachSpeed said:

    People ARE assholes and idiots. I know because I am both at once.

    You could try to stop being one.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    A stereotype is; "people are like this." How true that statement is then or now remains to be seen, but a more important question is "Why do you see people like this?"
  • edited 2015-09-23 01:02:59
    MachSpeed said:

    Its a story about an Asian-American, BY an Asian-American, and that experience and perspective cannot be discounted just because it's a little ugly. Stereotypes are bad, but they are rooted in a larger context that relates to culture, economics, and other large scale systems.

    Yeah, but FOTB takes the stereotypes out of context and plays them up just for laughs and misses most of the point.

    So a casual viewer just goes, "haha, those stereotypes, so true.  weirdos."
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    did they ruin the Muppets now?

    I want off this planet.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    No, fuck you.

    It's what I need to be right now.
  • Oh, yeah, FOTB, thanks for reminding me that cheapness is an Asian stereotype and now I have to make sure I make a point about my environmental consciousness as a justification for being cheap.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I'm not an American, but I find Fresh Off The Boat to be very true to my own life in many ways.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    did they ruin the Muppets now?

    I want off this planet.

    Eh, there have been some good Muppet things and some less good Muppet things.  If the new show is bad, maybe they'll get it right next time.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    But we ARE cheap. As fuck.

    We're cheap because we were poor.
  • MachSpeed said:

    No, fuck you.

    It's what I need to be right now.

    Being an asshole is not a good thing.

    Unless you're one of those people who thinks that those people who can get away with asshole behavior are actually legitimately socially stronger and more respectable.

    Fuck everyone who thinks that.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    did they ruin the Muppets now?

    I want off this planet.

    It's GMH. I'd take him with a grain of salt.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    It's not a good thing, being an asshole. I wish I wasn't.

    But like I said. It's what I need to be right now.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I need to be this to protect myself from being hurt.
  • MachSpeed said:

    But we ARE cheap. As fuck.

    We're cheap because we were poor.

    Well, yeah.

    Cheap because poor.

    NOT cheap because Asian.

    It's offensive for cheapness to be played up to an insane extent for laughs just to show off how Asian it is.

    It's not Asian.  It's economic.
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