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  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also, Imi, that hurt
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Aliroz said:

    Anonus said:

    Also I personally envy them as a fan of WB and H-B's cartoons


    I do admire some of the things Disney's done but don't like it when they hew so close to St. Walt's vision and find the fact that about 90% of their purpose is to uphold his legacy is just a tad creepy
    I envy them a lot as a big fan of Don Bluth.

    (But again, I try not to talk about the things I really like).
    which are
  • edited 2015-08-04 18:34:22
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    I actually really liked that Epic Rap Battles video.
  • Toei has made a bunch of nice things recently
  • edited 2015-08-04 18:49:17
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    In 1988, works from 1922 would have gone into the public domain.  THis would include 300 Disney shorts or "laffets" made between 1922 and 1932 that preceded movies; and these properties are the very first animated disney stuff/things.  

    In fact, the original copyright law for fictional properties was 28 years, later extended to 56, and then (in 1978) extended again to 75 years.  Remember that year, 1978. 56 years before 1978 is 1922.  Works after 1922 have an additional 19 years of copyright protection.

    But even with that last extension, all copyrighted fiction from the 1922 onwards was scheduled to enter the public domain starting in 1998 with works from 1922.

    IN the years from 1995 to 1998, President Clinton extended copyright again, adding 21 years.  So a work from 1922 would join the public domain in 2019.  All works from 1921 joined the public domain in 1977.

    In Europe, the copyright is the main creator's life plus 25 years, later extended to fifty, and recently in some places to 75.

    (I'm not sure whether you have to pay to extend your copyright from 28 to 97 years, but those with he moneymaking properties could certainly afford to pay for the extensions, and, in any case, 1922 is an extremely important year.  I don't know how the copyright thing works, I just know the limits, which is not the same as knowing the inner workings.  The silohuette of a lion is not the anatomy or behavior of a lion.)
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Anonus said:

    Also, Imi, that hurt

    life is pain
  • edited 2015-08-04 18:57:08
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    This is the first of the laffets, it is the oldest work by DIsney.  From 1922, Little Red Riding Hood.



    IF copyright is not extended, it will enter the public domain in 2019, signalling the very first Disney property to enter the public domain.

    Steamboat Willie is from 1928, and will go into public domain under the current system in 2025.  Without Clinton's extension  it would have gone into public domain in 2003.  Without the extension of 1978, it would have gone into public domain in 1984.

    But it is inconceivable to this gator that copyright should last more than a century; and I personally think that the next extension will be the last one, changing 97 years to 100, a nice round official-feeling number corresponding to the tail end of the human lifespan.  Not that I know anything about how lobbying works, I just think that how the heck can they extend it over 100, when there probably won't be a person alive who was alive when the original property first came out?
  • edited 2015-08-04 18:48:18
    THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Odradek said:

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/Cracked This page is really really bad


    For a brief moment, I wished the SA TvT thread was still alive, but then I remembered it would just be the same Chagen Pedo Animorphs jokes it always was.
    What really bothers me is all the people defending arch-conservative causes like MRAs, and complaining about "political correctness gone mad". When did TVT become a Dittohead hangout? :P
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Things I need to do before Anonus comes to town:

    • Buy t-shirts
    • Get oil change
    • Renew driver's license
    • Get car A/C fixed
    • Renew cell phone plan
    That last one can wait till Thursday, I think, since it doesn't actually expire until Saturday
  • edited 2015-08-04 18:57:46
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Anonus said:


    which are


    If I don't tell you, you can't make fun of them.

    (psst, I talk about them in my personal thread, don't tell the childrens)
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    And THAT is how copyright got extended from 28 years to 97.

    If we had stopped with the first extension (doubling it from 28 to 56 years), works from 1959 and earlier would be in the public domain now.  IF we had stopped with the second (increasing it from 56 to 75 yaers), works from 1940 would be in the public domain now (A Wild Hare, the first Bugs Bunny cartoon, would be in the public domain, and with it the character himself).

    As is, 1922 is still in copyright.
  • edited 2015-08-04 19:06:33
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    It turns out, when you have money, lawyers, and tripleposts, the law is putty in your hands.
  • kill living beings
    Aliroz said:

    But it is inconceivable to this gator that copyright should last more than a century; and I personally think that the next extension will be the last one, changing 97 years to 100, a nice round official-feeling number corresponding to the tail end of the human lifespan.  Not that I know anything about how lobbying works, I just think that how the heck can they extend it over 100, when there probably won't be a person alive who was alive when the original property first came out?

    Mary Bono said:

    Actually, Sonny wanted the term of copyright protection to last forever. I am informed by staff that such a change would violate the Constitution. ... As you know, there is also [then-MPAA president] Jack Valenti's proposal for term to last forever less one day. Perhaps the Committee may look at that next Congress.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    lee4hmz said:

    Odradek said:

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DethroningMoment/Cracked This page is really really bad


    For a brief moment, I wished the SA TvT thread was still alive, but then I remembered it would just be the same Chagen Pedo Animorphs jokes it always was.
    What really bothers me is all the people defending arch-conservative causes like MRAs, and complaining about "political correctness gone mad". When did TVT become a Dittohead hangout? :P
    I'm not sure what's bad about that page, really, since it just seems like a list of Cracked's many many failures...
  • my ear is stopped up, I have a sore on my tongue, and my entire family has gone off to do some fun thing while I am left behind
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    • Ghidra15: Aforementioned JF Sargent's How Casual Racism Ruined 'Free Speech' Foreverimage. Of all of Cracked's adolescent agitprop/clickbait masquerading as "Social Consciousness" articles/tirades, this one might take the cake. The article is, ostensibly, about reactions to the Charleston Church Shooting of June 2015, and the subsequent debate about the Confederate Flag being flown over the State Capitol. This is an important, complex, and controversial subject. Surely Our Boy Sargent is going to treat this with the subtlety and depth it deserves, right? His "Argument" falls apart completely in the second paragraph, and only goes downhill from there. His entire contention is that Apple was justified in removing a Civil War-themed game from their App Store, because nine people died in Charleston. We could argue about the ethics of a flag that was once flown directly against the United States being flown above a State Capitol of that very nation all day, the fact remains that said flag did not kill those people. His entire argument rests upon a faulty foundation, but it doesn't stop him. He can never form a cogent argument to save his life, but with this one, it's like he gave up and began mashing the keys, trusting that something would come out of it. The counter-argument that Apple was "Rewriting History" by removing the game is dismissed out of hand, with the reasoning that fiction plays fast-and-loose with history all the time, and that this is no different. Anyone that passed Speech in Middle School would recognize this as a derailing tactic, if not a subject-change. Sargent doesn't comprehend that Apple pulling a game for perceived "Offensive" content that actually happened is not the same thing as fudging historical facts. The possibility that Apple is guilty of Censorship is likewise dismissed, as "Apple isn't the government. It's just a company, so it can't technically "censor" you". Definition of Censorship from Wikipedia: "Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions." Ergo, Apple's actions COULD be correctly deemed censorship, but that's inconvenient and as such dismissed. His final contention deserves to be quoted in full: "I'm kinda cheating here, because "either everything is OK, or nothing is" is a paraphrase from an old episode of South Park where they argue that they should be allowed to make fun of Mohammed or, ya know, "the terrorists win." Except terrorism kills eight times as many Muslims as non-Muslims, so Trey Parker and Matt Stone were really just defending their right to say things that were going to piss off, hurt, and kill other people, far away, that they were never going to have to see or deal with or care about. And they were making themselves seem like heroes for being so brave." Here is another example of his inability to argue himself out of a wet paper bag. Is he saying that Islamists, unable to punish Matt Stone & Trey Parker for daring to show Muhammad, will turn on their own countrymen? That seems like a dubious prospect, at best. How do you know that that's going to happen, Sargent? Do you know something we don't? Or are you just angrily attacking fellow comedians for disagreeing with you? Finally, after having proven no points, advancing no debates, or using any logic, Sargent comes to the point of his attack: "And now we're moving toward removing the Confederate Flag, among other things, from polite company. If you don't like that, you're not a defender of free speech, you're just racist. You only think this is a free speech issue because you haven't the faintest clue what that would actually look like. You're just racist." As an argument, that's about as deep as saying that anyone that disagrees with you is a stupid doodoo-head. It reads like a Strawman Argument from his opponents, a parody of left-wing criticisms of racism. Yet he is 100% serious. If Thomas Paine is the Greatest Writer of Political Treatises, I think it's safe to say JF Sargent is the worst.
  • Somehow I am going to continue reading both Cracked and TVTropes articles despite this horrible atrocity.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    OK, I lost track of where that one was going
  • kill living beings
    i'm seeing words, connected by punctuation
  • The fuck is going on here
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Oh, lawdy.
  • I don't know what is going on, I don't care what is going on, but can we please drop it
  • (*picks it up, runs to the end zone, touchdown, I start a dance routine synchronized to Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites*)
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tools said:

    I don't know what is going on, I don't care what is going on, but can we please drop it

    sure
  • Thank you.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Crystal said:

    I actually really liked that Epic Rap Battles video.

    Me too, surprisingly.

    I'm annoyed by the two-minute long ending tag, though.
  • naney said:

    (*picks it up, runs to the end zone, touchdown, I start a dance routine synchronized to Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites*)

    the cat is the nimblest guy on the field. That means that the nimblest guy on the field is the cat.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    (*picks it up, runs to the end zone, touchdown, I start a dance routine synchronized to Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites*)
    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 7: Steel Ball Run - vol 86 ch 29 Page 2 | Batoto!
  • I thought the 2 minute long no rapping ending was representative of how there was nobody to stand up to Disney
  • According to this definitely-representative map, T-Mobile users in North America are notable for calling northeastern Australia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Japan, someplace in Kamchatka, southern Greenland, Wales, Portugal, South Africa, Brazil, Chile, and two other indeterminate locations.

    image

    You know, I'm always thrown off when they make the water white and continents blueish gray. I always think of it the other way around for some reason and so it always takes me a few seconds to figure out how the map works.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    naney said:

    I thought the 2 minute long no rapping ending was representative of how there was nobody to stand up to Disney

    That's an interesting interpretation of it.

    I'm okay with it if that's what they're doing.
  • I suddenly feel horribly embarrassed of my past self
  • I am sad that no one noticed my dank John Madden / World of Warcraft reference
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    naney said:

    (*picks it up, runs to the end zone, touchdown, I start a dance routine synchronized to Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites*)

    the cat is the nimblest guy on the field. That means that the nimblest guy on the field is the cat.
    Jane, n-n-now I think that Naney is one of the best receivers in the National Football League®, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a ring in February
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    He handles the ball well, he is a great contributor to the Frostbite Falls Felids' offense
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I think it's fun to make fun of ESPN talking heads too :n
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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    Johnny Darksoul and the Crystal Skull.
  • edited 2015-08-04 20:01:31

    Odradek said:

    If I ever get around to watching Cowpoke Bebong, the episode with a character named Tongpu will be really weird for me.

    Since both you and naney haven't seen Cowboy Bebop and I have them on my google drive, if you guys like I could do another anime night and we could watch them.
  • thanks for offering buy my computer has been super unhappy with the internet lately, especially now that I'm stuck on hotel wifi
  • naney said:

    thanks for offering buy my computer has been super unhappy with the internet lately, especially now that I'm stuck on hotel wifi

    Fair point.
  • Apparently there was a shooting in Toronto at a J. Cole concert last night.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Not actually at the concert, in a car park outside after the concert had already ended.
  • Odradek said:

    "What fucking sorcery is this? Math is numbers, you assholes. Shapes is geography"  ...


    is Sargent stupid?
    Don't quote me on this

    But that might have been a joke
  • Yeah... My sense of humour isn't the best, but even I think that this was a joke.
  • And that is all I am going to say on this topic.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    "What fucking sorcery is this? Math is numbers, you assholes. Shapes is geography"  ...


    is Sargent stupid?
    Don't quote me on this

    But that might have been a joke
    I would think so, but it's not funny.
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