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  • i like Eprom's remix of Move That Dope because he put in the most bonkers fizzing hypercompressed nightmare bass in there it was great
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    do you know what her band is called yet, Centy

    The Daves
  • do you know what her band is called yet, Centy

    The Daves
    you know what?

    that's a great band name
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    :)
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    ...The Daves?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    that's a great band name

  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    old style Zora?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Hey @Odradek do you know any good introductory books on Indian philosophy, or on philosophy in sub-Saharan Africa?

    i'm looking for something that'll give me a historical overview of the traditions in those areas
  • edited 2015-08-02 00:37:22
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    from what i can tell the African traditions are somewhat difficult to find information on

    but it's surprised me how hard it seems to be to find anything introductory on Indian philosophy that extends past the classical period

    i mean Vedic philosophy is one of the major traditions
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    Tachyon said:

    Hey @Odradek do you know any good introductory books on Indian philosophy, or on philosophy in sub-Saharan Africa?

    i'm looking for something that'll give me a historical overview of the traditions in those areas

    Sadly, no.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Thanks anyway.

    i guess maybe my mistake is that Vedic philosophy is very broad, especially if the nāstika traditions are included in that, so perhaps expecting any one book to serve as an introduction is naïve.

    i have Victoria Harrison's Eastern Philosophy: The Basics, it's good but, well, basic
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Nintendo Power's A Link to the Past comic. I read the entire thing one time.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I guess there's an entire finished dub now for Parts 1 and 2
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.

    Nintendo Power's A Link to the Past comic. I read the entire thing one time.

    I read the entire thing when they first published it. u_u
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    *dorkfive* :3
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality is the worst garbage ever written.

    Atlas Shrugged is more artistically meritorious.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    But men are not optimized to make women happy, and women are not optimized to make men happy.  The vast majority of men are not what the vast majority of women would most prefer, or vice versa.  I don’t know if anyone has ever actually done this study, but I bet that both gay and lesbian couples are happier on average with their relationship than heterosexual couples.  (Googles… yep, looks like it.)

    I find it all too easy to imagine a world in which men retreat to their optimized sweet sexy catgirls, and women retreat to their optimized darkly gentle catboys, and neither sex has anything to do with each other ever again.  Maybe men would take the east side of the galaxy and women would take the west side.  And the two new intelligent species, and their romantic sexbots, would go their separate ways from there.

    That strikes me as kind of sad.

    I’m willing to bet that a few psychological nudges in both sexes—to behavior and/or desire—could solve 90% of the needlessly frustrating aspects of relationships for large sectors of the population, while still keeping the complexity and interest of loving someone who isn’t tailored to your desires. 

  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

    Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality is the worst garbage ever written.

    Atlas Shrugged is more artistically meritorious.

    well hasn't the latter had, like, actual impact on society
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    Odradek said:

    But men are not optimized to make women happy, and women are not optimized to make men happy.  The vast majority of men are not what the vast majority of women would most prefer, or vice versa.  I don’t know if anyone has ever actually done this study, but I bet that both gay and lesbian couples are happier on average with their relationship than heterosexual couples.  (Googles… yep, looks like it.)

    I find it all too easy to imagine a world in which men retreat to their optimized sweet sexy catgirls, and women retreat to their optimized darkly gentle catboys, and neither sex has anything to do with each other ever again.  Maybe men would take the east side of the galaxy and women would take the west side.  And the two new intelligent species, and their romantic sexbots, would go their separate ways from there.

    That strikes me as kind of sad.

    I’m willing to bet that a few psychological nudges in both sexes—to behavior and/or desire—could solve 90% of the needlessly frustrating aspects of relationships for large sectors of the population, while still keeping the complexity and interest of loving someone who isn’t tailored to your desires. 

    This is the person a decent contingent of TvTropes wanted me to treat Completely Seriously
  • edited 2015-08-02 01:28:18
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality is the worst garbage ever written.

    Atlas Shrugged is more artistically meritorious.


    hey kids let's learn bad science half-remembered by an autodidact via the medium of Harry Potter fanfiction that completely misunderstands the source material, and be really smug about it because this makes us smarter than all the boring NPCs out there

    also let's refer to people who aren't rationalist ubermenschen as NPCs that's not arrogant at all
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    by 'bad science' i actually mean 'scientific inaccuracies'

    which is not a great crime in literature, but in literature which purports to be educational, and which is hugely condescending and elitist about anyone who doesn't understand science, well
  • im watching World Trigger

    i wasnt expecting it to be quite so... overtly comedic
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    What I'm saying is that he has a point there
  • also it's really pretty
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    Why are you being defensive?

    But yes the 'men are from mars, women are from venus' nonsense is silly, and no less silly when presented in pseudo-psychological terms
  • edited 2015-08-02 01:34:03

    imagine a world in which men retreat to their optimized sweet sexy catgirls, and women retreat to their optimized darkly gentle catboys
    THE YUD UNDERSTANDS ME
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    Anonus said:

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    What I'm saying is that he has a point there
    He has a point in that gay people are very much capable of rewarding, loving, happy relationships.

    I hesitate to call this a point. It's like if I wrote five paragraphs of text about how the pyramids were built by interstellar hamsters, and inserted the sentence "there are both freshwater and salt water stingrays" in the middle.

    I said something true, but that's not the main thrust of the article, so it doesn't matter that I said something true.
  • Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    What I'm saying is that he has a point there
    He has a point in that gay people are very much capable of rewarding, loving, happy relationships.

    I hesitate to call this a point. It's like if I wrote five paragraphs of text about how the pyramids were built by interstellar hamsters, and inserted the sentence "there are both freshwater and salt water stingrays" in the middle.

    I said something true, but that's not the main thrust of the article, so it doesn't matter that I said something true.
    there are freshwater stingrays???
  • real talk tho, "the ways society pressures members of each sex to act creates a lot of useless friction when different-sex couples try to start relationships" seems like a fairly reasonable point to me
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.

    do you know what her band is called yet, Centy

    The Daves
    image
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    What I'm saying is that he has a point there
    He has a point in that gay people are very much capable of rewarding, loving, happy relationships.

    I hesitate to call this a point. It's like if I wrote five paragraphs of text about how the pyramids were built by interstellar hamsters, and inserted the sentence "there are both freshwater and salt water stingrays" in the middle.

    I said something true, but that's not the main thrust of the article, so it doesn't matter that I said something true.
    there are freshwater stingrays???

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    that's a reasonable point, but i'm not sure he was making it
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Well I guess I'm just a fucking idiot then
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Odradek said:

    Anonus said:

    Centie and I are, in a sense, gay, and yes we're very happy with our relationship

    That is not what I am taking issue with

    not even remotely

    it is weird that you would even jump to that conclusion
    What I'm saying is that he has a point there
    He has a point in that gay people are very much capable of rewarding, loving, happy relationships.

    I hesitate to call this a point. It's like if I wrote five paragraphs of text about how the pyramids were built by interstellar hamsters, and inserted the sentence "there are both freshwater and salt water stingrays" in the middle.

    I said something true, but that's not the main thrust of the article, so it doesn't matter that I said something true.
    there are freshwater stingrays???

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_freshwater_stingray
  • It didnt seem to me like he was saying that men and women are inherently different, more that the way we are socialized differently creates problems

    which is something I would agree with
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    That link was supposed to be in an earlier post
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i may be being uncharitable

    i think the 'gay couples are statistically happier' thing is an interesting observation
  • but i am lacking the larger context
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    but I like cow girls, not cat girls
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    greatest pagetopper ever
  • I'm actually with Odradek here.

    What gave it away for me at least was use of the word "optimized" which indicates he thinks there's some weird evolutionary thing going on.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    optimal blurps.
  • Tachyon said:

    i may be being uncharitable

    i think the 'gay couples are statistically happier' thing is an interesting observation

    It would be if it were true, but there's a lot of factors to consider.

    For one thing, there are simply fewer gay couples.
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  • edited 2015-08-02 01:41:27

    Tachyon said:

    i may be being uncharitable

    i think the 'gay couples are statistically happier' thing is an interesting observation

    IIRC gay couples are also somewhat more likely to break up after a certain period of time and the members of said couple are much more likely to remain on friendly terms afterwards.

    i dont remember what study this was from though, but it seems true from both my personal experience and my observations of other queer people
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Why are you falling asleep on a river bed in Thailand
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