i feel kind of weird when you talk about the Simpsons like it's overrated
i mean i guess it might be, but when i was a kid, i watched it, but most of my classmates thought it was kind of lame and childish because it wasn't South Park
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
i feel kind of weird when you talk about the Simpsons like it's overrated
i mean i guess it might be, but when i was a kid, i watched it, but most of my classmates thought it was kind of lame and childish because it wasn't South Park
ime either this or blind devotion to the first X seasons is how people feel about The Simpsons in general.
Jurassic Park is considered sacred universal (no pun intended) cinema now isn't it
Pretty much.
You can usually tell if Cracked has the movie appear in an article without explaining what the movie is.
utter reverence towards any piece of pop culture tends to rankle me, and it doesn't help that I've been putting off watching the original Jurassic Park for years
The Simpsons can't have been that funny
I admit I am tempted to pull out the defense that when it came along it wasn't like anything else on the air
Most TV cartoons in 1989-90 were pretty dull/genteel and The Simpsons was not
It was also on Fox, a network that (and this was pre-football and pre-New World deal) was mostly confined to fuzzy UHF stations that had previously been independents
i feel kind of weird when you talk about the Simpsons like it's overrated
i mean i guess it might be, but when i was a kid, i watched it, but most of my classmates thought it was kind of lame and childish because it wasn't South Park
ime either this or blind devotion to the first X seasons is how people feel about The Simpsons in general.
which is a shame because it's a very good show but nothing is as good as people think the first couple seasons were and nothing is as bad as people think it is now.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy within your house.
Outdoors on your rural Kentucky property, not so much.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You know, the first time I heard of the concept of Death of the Author I was horrified
Of course the author is the final say on the meaning of a work, I thought. They fucking wrote it!
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy within your house.
Outdoors on your rural Kentucky property, not so much.
So I can't tape you inside, but if I stand a bit away from your window and point a camera indoors that's cool.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy within your house.
Outdoors on your rural Kentucky property, not so much.
So I can't tape you inside, but if I stand a bit away from your window and point a camera indoors that's cool.
You know, the first time I heard of the concept of Death of the Author I was horrified
Of course the author is the final say on the meaning of a work, I thought. They fucking wrote it!
i was a little uncomfortable with the idea at first, but having gotten used to it and gotten a bit more familiar with the context behind it and the reasoning for it, i think it's for the best.
It shouldn't be considered a closed debate, though, since there are contexts in which death of the author is not necessarily the best approach
for example if poststructural readings predominate then there's a risk that marginalized authors won't be able to make their voices heard
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy within your house.
Outdoors on your rural Kentucky property, not so much.
This is a fair stance to take, depending in part on the scale of the property and how close the drone was to the home.
i guess on paper i'm having trouble seeing what the difference is between, on the one hand, shooting down a drone, and on the other, say, trashing the inside of a store
I still can't really say I understand the idea that the owner of the property should be the ultimate authority on what is and isn't acceptable on the property, but I don't really wanna get into that argument again
If I came into your house and started taping you doing stuff, you'd be fuckin' disturbed, yeah?
You have a reasonable expectation of privacy within your house.
Outdoors on your rural Kentucky property, not so much.
So I can't tape you inside, but if I stand a bit away from your window and point a camera indoors that's cool.
Got it.
Except that's not what the drone was doing??
As far as we know.
And even if it's not what this drone was doing, your argument just doesn't make any sense to me.
You should have an area around your home where you can reasonably expect to be left alone. Otherwise I'd never be able to tell that creepy guy who lives down the street to fuck off when he stands outside waiting for us to come out so he can talk to us.
Freedom is a means to an end, not an end in of itself.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
@Tachyon: honestly, I only bring this up because I saw another GIF/JIF argument and it's ridiculous to me because the original developers have said it was a soft G and I would think that would be the end of it because they made it and so they get to decide
@Tachyon: honestly, I only bring this up because I saw another GIF/JIF argument and it's ridiculous to me because the original developers have said it was a soft G and I would think that would be the end of it because they made it and so they get to decide
if they wanted it to be pronounced "jif" they should've spelled it that way v_v
@Tachyon: honestly, I only bring this up because I saw another GIF/JIF argument and it's ridiculous to me because the original developers have said it was a soft G and I would think that would be the end of it because they made it and so they get to decide
Well that's not really how language works.
i'd go with the soft g just because that's the closest we have to an authority on the matter, but i think it's kind of a pointless thing to debate.
Every podcast I listen to has people who quote it in lieu of a joke.
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
Quoting things that were once said by genuinely funny people in lieu of coming up with your own jokes is a common crutch in comedy.
The Simpsons just tends to get quoted more than most other things because it's one of the most common frames of references for the types of people who make and listen to these podcasts.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I'm in a pissy mood this afternoon and I'm not really sure why >_>
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
It's just, there is an entire twitter just dedicated to quoting it.
This is true of everything.
Every podcast I listen to has people who quote it in lieu of a joke.
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
So can we just sort of assume that if I'm complaining about something in something I willingly expose myself to, there are generally enough redeeming factors that I have a reason to expose myself to it in the first place?
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I guess my problem with the "people who own property get to unilaterally control their own property" is it seems like property ownership is disproportionate and thus such a system gives a small number of people a great amount of control over everyone else
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
let's talk about something more pleasant like stage magic
Freedom is a means to an end, not an end in of itself.
I'm curious as to what you mean by that, really...
OK
the reason freedom is a desirable thing is not because anyone should be able to do anything.
I think that's a basic idea we can all agree on.
The reason freedom is desirable is because sometimes impinging on other peoples' rights results in a greater benefit for everyone on the whole. For example, it's good that we have the freedom to protest things because if we didn't it would be much harder to bring important issues to wide attention.
I would call that useful freedom, if I had to coin an admittedly stupid-sounding term.
On the other hand, who exactly benefits from say, someone being allowed to trash a grocery store for no reason? Just as an example? Pretty much no one, right? The store-owner is mad that his store is trashed, the customers (who mind you, vastly outnumber the sole vandal) are mad that they now cannot buy what they came there to buy. The only person who makes out well in that situation is the vandal, who is just one person, compared to the dozens (or hundreds if we're talking a large store) of people who are in quite a foul mood.
Now technically the guy who lives in a society where that's allowed is more free than one who lives in a society where it's not, but where would you rather live?
Obviously both of those are pretty extreme examples (and what's good for the majority of people isn't always right, but it's a good metric in lieu of anything else), but you understand what I mean, right?
It's just, there is an entire twitter just dedicated to quoting it.
This is true of everything.
Every podcast I listen to has people who quote it in lieu of a joke.
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
So can we just sort of assume that if I'm complaining about something in something I willingly expose myself to, there are generally enough redeeming factors that I have a reason to expose myself to it in the first place?
well the way you phrased it made it sound like you don't / have never watched it
It's just, there is an entire twitter just dedicated to quoting it.
This is true of everything.
Every podcast I listen to has people who quote it in lieu of a joke.
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
So can we just sort of assume that if I'm complaining about something in something I willingly expose myself to, there are generally enough redeeming factors that I have a reason to expose myself to it in the first place?
well the way you phrased it made it sound like you don't / have never watched it
It's just, there is an entire twitter just dedicated to quoting it.
This is true of everything.
Every podcast I listen to has people who quote it in lieu of a joke.
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
So can we just sort of assume that if I'm complaining about something in something I willingly expose myself to, there are generally enough redeeming factors that I have a reason to expose myself to it in the first place?
well the way you phrased it made it sound like you don't / have never watched it
No I meant the podcasts.
ah.
well podcasts can have redeeming qualities that are not being funny
English doesn't have a fixed rule for this. G before e is usually soft (outside words with atypical derivations like gecko, gefilte and geisha), before i though you have gig, gibbon, Gideon, giddy, girl, gift, gimmick, gigabyte, gibbous, give, girdle, Gibson, gills . . .
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Freedom is a means to an end, not an end in of itself.
I'm curious as to what you mean by that, really...
OK
the reason freedom is a desirable thing is not because anyone should be able to do anything.
I think that's a basic idea we can all agree on.
The reason freedom is desirable is because sometimes impinging on other peoples' rights results in a greater benefit for everyone on the whole. For example, it's good that we have the freedom to protest things because if we didn't it would be much harder to bring important issues to wide attention.
I would call that useful freedom, if I had to coin an admittedly stupid-sounding term.
On the other hand, who exactly benefits from say, someone being allowed to trash a grocery store for no reason? Just as an example? Pretty much no one, right? The store-owner is mad that his store is trashed, the customers (who mind you, vastly outnumber the sole vandal) are mad that they now cannot buy what they came there to buy. The only person who makes out well in that situation is the vandal, who is just one person, compared to the dozens (or hundreds if we're talking a large store) of people who are in quite a foul mood.
Now technically the guy who lives in a society where that's allowed is more free than one who lives in a society where it's not, but where would you rather live?
Obviously both of those are pretty extreme examples (and what's good for the majority of people isn't always right, but it's a good metric in lieu of anything else), but you understand what I mean, right?
I guess my problem with the "people who own property get to unilaterally control their own property" is it seems like property ownership is disproportionate and thus such a system gives a small number of people a great amount of control over everyone else
gonna note that this is a fair point
unfortunately i know nothing about stage magic (two more soft gs, there)
I'm less criticizing the Simpsons and more a form of laziness that is rampant around the Simpsons.
Like Linkara showing a clip of Cybermen saying "There is... logic in what you say" in lieu of a joke.
Like, it's not funny, it's literally just a robot saying those words, and that constitutes a joke somehow.
Once again, making pop cultural references in lieu of actual jokes is a common crutch among people who can't be funny on their own.
The Simpsons just tends to get quoted more than most other things because it's one of the most common frames of references for the types of people who make and listen to the things that you are referring to.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You know what I would like to have? The freedom to use quoteblocks properly.
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i mean i guess it might be, but when i was a kid, i watched it, but most of my classmates thought it was kind of lame and childish because it wasn't South Park
I was gonna say Slayer but people will argue about their more recent albums, but I've never seen anyone say anything bad about Testament
The misogyny was the repeated condemnation of women who choose to have careers instead of raising children
also you had Owen being sleazy, which was presented as innocuous flirting, and Claire was presented as humourless for not enjoying it
I would venture to suggest that the people who make the podcasts you listen to are not very funny.
It shouldn't be considered a closed debate, though, since there are contexts in which death of the author is not necessarily the best approach
for example if poststructural readings predominate then there's a risk that marginalized authors won't be able to make their voices heard
i guess on paper i'm having trouble seeing what the difference is between, on the one hand, shooting down a drone, and on the other, say, trashing the inside of a store
i'd go with the soft g just because that's the closest we have to an authority on the matter, but i think it's kind of a pointless thing to debate.
sorry about that o_o;
So can we just sort of assume that if I'm complaining about something in something I willingly expose myself to, there are generally enough redeeming factors that I have a reason to expose myself to it in the first place?
Obviously both of those are pretty extreme examples (and what's good for the majority of people isn't always right, but it's a good metric in lieu of anything else), but you understand what I mean, right?
well the way you phrased it made it sound like you don't / have never watched it
No I meant the podcasts.
ah.
English doesn't have a fixed rule for this. G before e is usually soft (outside words with atypical derivations like gecko, gefilte and geisha), before i though you have gig, gibbon, Gideon, giddy, girl, gift, gimmick, gigabyte, gibbous, give, girdle, Gibson, gills . . .
unfortunately i know nothing about stage magic (two more soft gs, there)
The Simpsons just tends to get quoted more than most other things because it's one of the most common frames of references for the types of people who make and listen to the things that you are referring to.