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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    turn around, bright eyes
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    Fair and Balanced.
  • apparently a poll showed that 65% of the people in New Jersey think that their governor would make a poor president


    how bad do you have to be at your job to piss off Redman.
    New Jerseyites are perpetually pissed at their politicians
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    One weird aspect of my dreams: I can often shift between driving a car and not driving a car without even noticing it.

    Like, a few nights ago, I dreamed I was driving along the highway, and then I was walking through a hospital. There was no transitional step of getting out of the car; I just went from being in the car approaching the hospital to walking around inside the hospital.
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    in which alice very gently reminds her players that they completely screwed up
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    One weird aspect of my dreams: I can often shift between driving a car and not driving a car without even noticing it.


    Like, a few nights ago, I dreamed I was driving along the highway, and then I was walking through a hospital. There was no transitional step of getting out of the car; I just went from being in the car approaching the hospital to walking around inside the hospital.
    i get this, and not just with cars; i can go from cycling to not cycling, from watching something on TV to interacting with the characters, and from playing a video game to being myself in 3rd person

    also sometimes someone will be one person, then do something 'wrong' and i'll realize they're actually someone else, whereupon they will look like that person

    and other weirdness regarding my identity, like sometimes i will see something, but the "i" in the dream can't see it so i'm unable to do anything about it
  • in my dreams i end up checking wikipedia and chatting with friends without a computer so
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    that's another one

    i sometimes meet people i know only over the internet, and sometimes they look like their avatars rather than their photos

    and sometimes an internet conversation will mutate into an offline conversation or vice versa
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • edited 2015-07-23 02:26:00

    what if the universe is made of math tho?

    ...what the fuck does it even mean for something to be made out of something if that is the case?
  • edited 2015-07-23 02:26:04
    My dreams exceed my real life
    • A first difficulty is the idea, drilled into people's heads in online apologetics but foreign in every other context, that atheism is merely a lack of beliefs on the matter. It's obfuscatory to use the term this way, in the first place, simply because that's not how it's used outside of online apologetics, and it's obfuscatory to suddenly change the meaning of significant words like this. But, more importantly, there's a good reason why terminology outside of online apologetics distinguishes between lacking a belief in the existence of God and having a belief that God doesn't exist. To put the matter simply, these are two different ideas, and accurate terminology gives us different words for different ideas, while obfuscatory terminology conflates different ideas under a single word. The position on our knowledge of God's existence which Kant argues for in The Critique of Pure Reason is quite different than the position on this which Dawkins argues for in The God Delusion. Indeed, they're not only different, they're mutually exclusive: one of Kant's main aims in the Critique is to refute a position like Dawkins'. This is really important, since the arguments for agnosticism, paradigmatically associated with Hume and Kant, and then popular throughout the nineteenth century among people like Spencer and Huxley, are perhaps the most important developments in the modern period on the dispute about theism and atheism. But if we adopt the terminology of online apologetics, we literally lose the linguistic ability to refer to them. The entire meaning of the most important development in the dispute disappears under the obfuscation of the wordplay. This is, of course, a bad idea: it's a merit of the normal way of speaking that it gives us the words to distinguish, e.g., Kant's position from Dawkins', and a great fault of the terminology of online apologetics that it prohibits us from distinguishing these positions.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
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    naney said:

    what if the universe is made of math tho?

    i'm not clear on the details but i think this was the view of the Pythagorean school of philosophy.

    However the Greeks didn't see math the same way we do now, for example the idea that there was any relation between arithmetic and geometry was controversial due to their rejection of irrational numbers.  Also there was a lot of mysticism involved - numbers were used to stand for various concepts, like 'man' or 'woman' or 'marriage'.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    This is something i've been reading about in preparation for the post on the presocratics that i'm working on
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    Odradek said:

    • A first difficulty is the idea, drilled into people's heads in online apologetics but foreign in every other context, that atheism is merely a lack of beliefs on the matter. It's obfuscatory to use the term this way, in the first place, simply because that's not how it's used outside of online apologetics, and it's obfuscatory to suddenly change the meaning of significant words like this. But, more importantly, there's a good reason why terminology outside of online apologetics distinguishes between lacking a belief in the existence of God and having a belief that God doesn't exist. To put the matter simply, these are two different ideas, and accurate terminology gives us different words for different ideas, while obfuscatory terminology conflates different ideas under a single word. The position on our knowledge of God's existence which Kant argues for in The Critique of Pure Reason is quite different than the position on this which Dawkins argues for in The God Delusion. Indeed, they're not only different, they're mutually exclusive: one of Kant's main aims in the Critique is to refute a position like Dawkins'. This is really important, since the arguments for agnosticism, paradigmatically associated with Hume and Kant, and then popular throughout the nineteenth century among people like Spencer and Huxley, are perhaps the most important developments in the modern period on the dispute about theism and atheism. But if we adopt the terminology of online apologetics, we literally lose the linguistic ability to refer to them. The entire meaning of the most important development in the dispute disappears under the obfuscation of the wordplay. This is, of course, a bad idea: it's a merit of the normal way of speaking that it gives us the words to distinguish, e.g., Kant's position from Dawkins', and a great fault of the terminology of online apologetics that it prohibits us from distinguishing these positions.
    i didn't know about this but if this is the case it's really annoying.
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    i'm actually used to atheists pushing the dsitinction from agnosticism strongly... for that matter, agnostics pushing the distinction from a lack of belief
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    i think maybe that post is referring to Dawkins' spectrum of theistic probability, on which he defines himself as a de facto atheist, not a strong atheist, on the basis that he'd be open to persuasion that God exists, and therefore isn't dogmatic.
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    And yes, i'm aware of the irony, but Dawkins probably isn't.
  • Doctorow's out

    I probably should have said that more clearly

    Famed sci-fi writer EL Doctorow has passed away

    Not to be mistaken with xkcd deity Cory Doctorow.
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    Oh. :(

    i haven't read any of his, but sad news.

    RIP.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Dieter Moebius is dead, too.

    R.I.P.
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    Famed sci-fi writer EL Doctorow has passed away

    oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Dieter Moebius is dead, too.

    R.I.P.




  • kill living beings

    Famed sci-fi writer EL Doctorow

    what the
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I believe it was E.L. Doctorow who said "writing is a socially accepted form of schizophrenia"

    I like that
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS

    they killed Lee? Well, there goes HH

    boo
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    oh good, you're alive!
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    Tachyon said:

    i think maybe that post is referring to Dawkins' spectrum of theistic probability, on which he defines himself as a de facto atheist, not a strong atheist, on the basis that he'd be open to persuasion that God exists, and therefore isn't dogmatic.

    Having read the thread that Odradek's post came from, i was too hard on Dawkins here - he does recognize that 'atheist' and 'agnostic' mean different things, and was arguing for atheism over agnosticism.
  • Huh.

    Toonami is airing Michiko & Hatchin now

    that's unexpected.
  • they're also picking up Parasyte and Akame Ga Kill later this year.

    I don't watch the block regularly anymore (once in a blue moon at most) but I'm really happy that it's still plugging along even after the time cut.
  • isn't Michiko & Hatchin quite well-regarded?
  • isn't Michiko & Hatchin quite well-regarded?

    I think so

    it's just that it's several years old and afaik wasn't a ratings smash domestically.
  • Huh.


    Toonami is airing Michiko & Hatchin now

    that's unexpected.
    I can actually kinda see it as the kind of show Toonami would broadcast.
  • I have heard that people seem to have liked Parasyte and had a meh reaction to Akame ga Kill.

    Personally I started watching Akame ga Kill and I'm not interested in watching Parasyte and Michiko & Hatchin is on my to-finish list.
  • edited 2015-07-23 05:54:08
    Los parámetros estimados son del signo esperado y significativo al 98% para las varaibles de predicción 'índice promedio de cercanía a caminos de la región'y 'porcentaje de cobertura boscosa con pago de servicios ambientales de la región'.

    > de la región'.

    > región'.

    Spanish agrees with me too.  :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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    But Spanish also puts upside-down exclamation marks at the start of a sentence, and uses 'v' to represent the sound we use 'b' to represent.
  • *flower falls off head*

    *turns red*

    *walks around angrily*
  • edited 2015-07-23 07:14:08
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    Huh.


    Toonami is airing Michiko & Hatchin now

    that's unexpected.
    I can actually kinda see it as the kind of show Toonami would broadcast.
    Shinichirō Watanabe did a fair bit of work on it, IIRC.
  • Today I woke up, went to the loo, and nearly fainted.

    Fun way to start the day.
  • edited 2015-07-23 08:06:36
    I swear, this hard-shelled beetle has damage reduction.

    It has only 2 HP but it has like damage reduction 5 or something.
  • Attributive


    Most nouns can appear before another noun, modifying it in an adjectival manner, called attributive.
    The adjectival meaning is directly derived from the meaning of the
    noun. In attributive use the modifying noun, sometimes called a noun adjunct,
    is considered to remain a noun. A multiple-word noun phrase is often
    written with hyphens instead of spaces to help the reader treat the
    phrase as a unit.


    We usually eat dinner from the dinner table.
    The dinner-table manufacturer is in North Carolina.

    To determine that "amazon physique" contains a noun adjunct while "amazonian physique" contains an adjective, note these linguistic tests:


    1. Adjectives can generally be predicative
      Her physique is amazonian, but not *Her physique is amazon
    2. Adjectives can be graded, accepting more or less
      She is more amazonian than I remember, but not *She is more amazon than I remember


    Do note that the use of attributive nouns in ways that "should" only be used by adjectives is a growing trend in slang/informal usage in English, especially on the internet.

  • we will try this look on for the night and I will see how I find it in the morning.

    Night all.
  • G'NIGHT JANE
  • What is the truth but something that is inherently subjective.

    What is reality but also the same.

    Human beings are living breathing creatures, but we are also creatures that exist with the scope of reality, our own beings, the thing we see as ourself is also capable of being affected.

    Brain damage in that sense, is a very worrying prospect.

    The prospect that you exist within a very limited space, that this space is defined wholly by a vessel fragile enough to break, is very worrying.

    Have you ever been stricken by the thought that we don't do enough to safe-guard the tether of our very cores? Like, this is not a micro-question that one person can answer with any certainty.

    From the minute we found what links us to our forms, what have we truly done to safeguard this link?



  • Huh.


    Toonami is airing Michiko & Hatchin now

    that's unexpected.
    I can actually kinda see it as the kind of show Toonami would broadcast.
    Shinichirō Watanabe did a fair bit of work on it, IIRC.
    Yeah, though he mainly worked as the music producer for that show. I remember the music being excellent. He was also in charge of the music for The woman called Fujiko Mine, which might be one of my favorite anime soundtracks, after Bebop and Champloo.
  • Baths are not good for washing thick hair.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Based on what you folks know about me, what music do you think I would like and try out?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    hello friends.

    What do you think is a good tv show or movie to watch while recovering from a night of vomiting?
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