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  • My dreams exceed my real life

    What even is the point of Bloom County 2015?

    I like it
  • What even is the point of Bloom County 2015?

    A lot of people don't want to let the past go, and neither does Breathed, apparently.
    I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to let the past go if you have a past tense name, after all.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Why do so many people seem to write "judgment" as "judgement"?

    i do this sometimes

    it's cuz i know how to spell "judge" and the letter combination "dgm" looks like it can't be pronounced, i guess
  • Tachyon said:

    Why do so many people seem to write "judgment" as "judgement"?

    i do this sometimes

    it's cuz i know how to spell "judge" and the letter combination "dgm" looks like it can't be pronounced, i guess
    weirdly my first instinct was to pronounce "dgm" as "gym"

    idk
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Today I had to calculate the projected number of casualties from the destruction of a 25 story apartment building. My life is strange.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    Why do so many people seem to write "judgment" as "judgement"?

    i do this sometimes

    it's cuz i know how to spell "judge" and the letter combination "dgm" looks like it can't be pronounced, i guess
    weirdly my first instinct was to pronounce "dgm" as "gym"

    idk
    i can see it.  Silent first letter.

    Today I had to calculate the projected number of casualties from the destruction of a 25 story apartment building. My life is strange.

    What was this for?
  • Why do so many people seem to write "judgment" as "judgement"?

    Because (1) both are accepted spellings, and (2) "judgment" doesn't have a silent e to justify the soft g.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    derp

    Apparently "judgement" is actually the preferred spelling in the UK, just not internationally.

    Not sure why i didn't know this.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Tachyon said:

    What was this for?

    During the previous session of the Magical Burst game I'm GMing, one of my players accidentally hit 11 Magic Overcharge. At 10 or more overcharge in a stat, the stat automatically "bursts", with various (devastating) effects depending on if it's Magic, Heart, or Fury.

    Magic bursts release destructive magical energy, destroying an area dependent on your overcharge at the time, and killing any normal human in the vicinity. At 11 overcharge, that area is the size of a skyscraper.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I was born in America but wish I was from the UK

    So, naturaly, I identify as Transatlantic.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'm 90% sure I've used that joke before but it's one I'm proud of
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:20:51

    Tachyon said:

    What was this for?

    During the previous session of the Magical Burst game I'm GMing, one of my players accidentally hit 11 Magic Overcharge. At 10 or more overcharge in a stat, the stat automatically "bursts", with various (devastating) effects depending on if it's Magic, Heart, or Fury.

    Magic bursts release destructive magical energy, destroying an area dependent on your overcharge at the time, and killing any normal human in the vicinity. At 11 overcharge, that area is the size of a skyscraper.
    That's the MadoMagi-inspired magical girl RPG system right?

    Edit: yeah it is.

    Magical Burst a role-playing game of desperate magical girls.
  • Tachyon said:

    derp

    Apparently "judgement" is actually the preferred spelling in the UK, just not internationally.

    Not sure why i didn't know this.

    I use it anyway.

    I once had to fight with the spellchecker in Microsoft Word to get it to stop calling it a misspelling based on my English U.S. set language.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    An alternate universe where Tachyon is from Ohio and Central Avenue is from Gloucestershire
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    GMH what are your thoughts on Windows 10 making security updates mandatory?
  • glenn is still using a totally unpatched copy of XP with 50 free taskbars
  • Tachyon said:

    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?

    But it's not a spelling error, so I don't care.
    naney said:

    glenn is still using a totally unpatched copy of XP with 50 free taskbars

    Don't forget Bonzi Buddy!
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    An alternate universe where Tachyon is from Ohio and Central Avenue is from Gloucestershire


    i actually do wonder how that would turn out.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch


    Tachyon said:

    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?

    But it's not a spelling error, so I don't care.

    Well you're not doing it by accident, but your readers won't know that.
  • Tachyon said:

    An alternate universe where Tachyon is from Ohio and Central Avenue is from Gloucestershire


    i actually do wonder how that would turn out.
    how about an alternate universe in which each of us humans has magical powers
  • Tachyon said:


    Tachyon said:

    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?

    But it's not a spelling error, so I don't care.

    Well you're not doing it by accident, but your readers won't know that.
    It's okay; I'm just colouring their documents with my favourite alternate spellings.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Having magic would be cool.

    But like i meant more like, would i be the same person if i grew up somewhere else?  Would you be the same person if you grew up somewhere else?  Would any of us?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Tachyon said:


    Tachyon said:

    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?

    But it's not a spelling error, so I don't care.

    Well you're not doing it by accident, but your readers won't know that.
    It's like putting the period outside the quotation mark when the quote isn't a complete sentence: it's not technically wrong, but it runs counter to the American convention so I avoid it in formal writing so people don't think I'm making a grammar mistake.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    If nothing else, my EmBurst campaign has the whole "anime pacing" thing downpat. First session went Slice of Life -> Rival kidnaps friend -> Clone comes from magic mirror, leading to ~cliffhanger~.

    Second went: Players try to find clone -> Get attacked by monster of the week -> Session ends on the note of "Yes, you destroyed the monster, but you also destroyed an apartment block."
  • Tachyon said:


    Tachyon said:

    But doesn't that mean now everyone who reads your work in which you use the word will think you're making a common spelling error?

    But it's not a spelling error, so I don't care.

    Well you're not doing it by accident, but your readers won't know that.
    It's like putting the period outside the quotation mark when the quote isn't a complete sentence: it's not technically wrong, but it runs counter to the American convention so I avoid it in formal writing so people don't think I'm making a grammar mistake.
    I actually just do this even in my formal writing.  Because I consider the other way to be technically wrong.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Like you're entitled to your preferences, but the other way isn't *wrong* because the language is itself a convention.
  • Tachyon said:

    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.

    But it is wrong, if the quote being quoted does not contain the final punctuation mark, unless that final punctuation mark is set off using brackets to indicate that they are editorially added and not original.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    An alternate universe where Tachyon is from Ohio and Central Avenue is from Gloucestershire

    do I get to be from the UK too
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.

    But it is wrong, if the quote being quoted does not contain the final punctuation mark

    In British English yes, in American English no.

    , unless that final punctuation mark is set off using brackets to indicate that they are editorially added and not original.

    That's not the convention anywhere!  If anything, enclosing the period in brackets is wrong, and ugly and pedantic and silly.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    An AU where everyone is from the sun.
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:44:42
    You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    Tachyon said:

    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.

    But it is wrong, if the quote being quoted does not contain the final punctuation mark, unless that final punctuation mark is set off using brackets to indicate that they are editorially added and not original.
    The American convention is that the placement of the punctuation does not indicate whether or not the full stop was part of the original text being quoted, so how can that be wrong?


    Anonus said:

    An alternate universe where Tachyon is from Ohio and Central Avenue is from Gloucestershire

    do I get to be from the UK too
    I don't see why not.
  • I am about to listen to an album by a rapper who died of SADS about a year ago.

    I feel like this may be a depressing experience.
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:48:17
    Tachyon said:

    Tachyon said:

    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.

    But it is wrong, if the quote being quoted does not contain the final punctuation mark

    In British English yes, in American English no.

    , unless that final punctuation mark is set off using brackets to indicate that they are editorially added and not original.

    That's not the convention anywhere!  If anything, enclosing the period in brackets is wrong, and ugly and pedantic and silly.
    The quote is supposed to tell me exactly what was said!  How am I supposed to know what was said?  Did that person really insert a question mark into their emphatic statement?  No, they didn't!  Your quoting them in a question should be using the quote itself as a noun, with the quotation marks determing the beginning and ending of the block that functions as a grammatical unit!
  • Tachyon said:

    But it's not wrong.

    It's standard American English grammar.

    But it is wrong, if the quote being quoted does not contain the final punctuation mark, unless that final punctuation mark is set off using brackets to indicate that they are editorially added and not original.
    The American convention is that the placement of the punctuation does not indicate whether or not the full stop was part of the original text being quoted, so how can that be wrong?
    But it should!  It's not fully informative otherwise!
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:51:47
    ITT: GMH argues that language rules should work in more rigorous, well-defined, well-behaved ways, and advocates for unilateral forcing of change
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'd just like to point out that, even under the American convention, question marks are typically an exception--i.e., if the quote itself isn't a question, the question mark goes outside the quotation marks.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    On the one hand, i do agree, and i prefer the UK system because it appeals to my sense of consistency and seems less ambiguous.

    On the other, you're an intelligent individual, you know what the US rule is and you are perfectly capable of applying it when interpreting the sentence, the same way you would any other grammatical rule.  Accusing people who follow the established rule of 'doing it wrong' is misunderstanding how language works, and blaming other people for it.
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:55:01
    Tachyon said:

    On the one hand, i do agree, and i prefer the UK system because it appeals to my sense of consistency and seems less ambiguous.

    On the other, you're an intelligent individual, you know what the US rule is and you are perfectly capable of applying it when interpreting the sentence, the same way you would any other grammatical rule.  Accusing people who follow the established rule of 'doing it wrong' is misunderstanding how language works, and blaming other people for it.

    (I'm opining somewhat facetiously, in case it wasn't clear.)

    I just want language to work in more logical, consistent, informative, well-behaved ways.  Continuing use of traditions that are misinformative or inconsistent, therefore, counts as "wrong" for the purpose of this objective.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    ITT: GMH argues that language rules should work in more rigorous, well-defined, well-behaved ways, and advocates for unilateral forcing of change

    So you're totally cool with the mandatory automatic Windows patches. Noted.

    :P
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i don't think that's an unreasonable want.

    So i suppose i'm just objecting to that use of the word 'wrong'.
  • edited 2015-07-22 21:56:50

    ITT: GMH argues that language rules should work in more rigorous, well-defined, well-behaved ways, and advocates for unilateral forcing of change

    So you're totally cool with the mandatory automatic Windows patches. Noted.

    :P
    as long as i can also unilaterally force things to work on my end, yes
  • EVERYBODY UNILATERALLY FORCE TONIGHT
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Preferring the UK convention is fine. I prefer it, myself.

    Calling the US convention "wrong" is a bit silly, because it's just an agreed-upon rule that's generally followed. It's like saying our traffic signs are wrong for giving distances in miles instead of kilometers.
  • well if your objective is to get the US to adopt widespread use of the metric system then the use of miles rather than kilometers is indeed "wrong"

    "wrong" requires a standard by which a condition or action is evaluated
  • edited 2015-07-22 22:00:45
    I'LL MAKE MY OWN LANGUAGE...WITH BIG TWO AND SNOOKERS!
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    But the objective of the people posting the signs is not to get the US to adopt the metric system.

    Their objective is to post a sign that follows the US standard and communicates what they want to communicate.
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.

    well if your objective is to get the US to adopt widespread use of the metric system then the use of miles rather than kilometers is indeed "wrong"

    "wrong" requires a standard by which a condition or action is evaluated

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  • Calica said:



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    > lincoln chafee

    wait what
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