i certainly don't like people talking shit about what i studied, and i'm no STEM major
anyway, a big part of what makes Sokal so misleading is he seems to assume everyone who is French and whose writing he doesn't understand is some kind of extreme relativist
if you take his writing at face value that's the impression you're gonna come away with
im thinking i might make a thread about stuff i learn while reading about philosophy and related material
i think it would help motivate me to keep reading (i don't read enough these days), and maybe it would be of use to anyone else curious about the subject who isn't sure where to begin
im thinking i might make a thread about stuff i learn while reading about philosophy and related material
i think it would help motivate me to keep reading (i don't read enough these days), and maybe it would be of use to anyone else curious about the subject who isn't sure where to begin
In all my years, I have never seen anyone step out and say "Scientists have a lesser place in society". Not in class, not in papers, not from other students.
What I have seen is people getting really angry at the suggesting that their science degree does not entitle them to claim expertise in all things forever.
i missed this post, and i should acknowledge its correctness
i haven't seen this either, it is true, you are right
i have seen people suggest that science people are uncultured and have a very shallow, limited understanding of the human experience, that's about it
thing is you can't really deny the usefulness of math and physics from an engineering perspective, this is stuff that's hard to ignore in a world so surrounded by technology
learning about the arts and the humanities requires a bit more humility and openness to metaphor and emotion, and not everyone is so good at that
As a person who majored in STEM fields and also someone who feels very much that music is a part of my soul and identity (and a person who's spent too much time on places like TVT), I'll say that STEM and non-STEM are just different -- and neither side is better than the other. A comparison asking which has more merit is a faulty comparison. Rather, they are complementary, as science and tech can get us lots of things, but they alone cannot bring us to understand meaning in our lives.
also Myr I think the term you came up with a while back was "insight wankers"
it's certainly less misleading than the term "math nerds", because math is pretty cool and using the term like that mischaracterizes all those people who are actually into mathematics.
Seriously, I have a pretty strong dislike of what could be called "humiliation culture" in the world of videogames. All this "git gud" crap and gloating about "pwning" people and spamming lenny face when getting kills and gloating about no scope headshots and shit.
I wish people could get punches in their virtual faces every time they did shit like that.
Seriously, I have a pretty strong dislike of what could be called "humiliation culture" in the world of videogames. All this "git gud" crap and gloating about "pwning" people and spamming lenny face when getting kills and gloating about no scope headshots and shit.
I wish people could get punches in their virtual faces every time they did shit like that.
That's silly, and this is coming from someone that dislikes newbie-unfriendliness a whole lot.
It's pretty simple. If you're not good at a game, and complaining, the answer is to get better however you can. And thinking people deserve a punch in the face for being happy about liking competition and pulling off cool stunts is... I want to say immature, almost. Chill out.
Obnoxious assholery is still tedious and I naturally disapprove of it though.
In before a potential "I'm wonderposting!!!1" comment: Nope.
Although I guess the colonization stuff is mostly the lingering bitterness.
It's definitely a big part of it, definitely.
Although not the American War of Independence. Too long ago, too far away.
In terms of near neighbours, there's a mostly joking rivalry with France and a slightly more serious one with the Republic of Ireland. Certain Brits take pride our supposed difference from the mainland and/or the rest of the EU.
Within the UK, to generalize massively, everywhere that's not England hates England, while the English tend to be kind of snobby about everyone else. There are various reasons for this, which in the case of Northern Ireland include Cromwell in the 1600s, and more recently the Great Famine, Churchill, Bloody Sunday and the Troubles. Scotland has a long history of warring with England but the Highland Clearances are also a cause of some lingering resentment, as are the various historical attempts to suppress Scottish culture. With Wales i think it's fair to say there's less animosity than with the others, but it's common knowledge that Welsh language was banned not so very long ago.
Within England itself, the north dislikes the south. This again has longstanding historical roots (the Harrowing of the North was a genocidal attack on the north by the south) but mostly goes back to Thatcher's policies during the 1980s, particularly the closure of the mines, and the Hillsborough Disaster.
But the most volatile ongoing hostilities are still those internal to Northern Ireland, where the Troubles are still fresh in everyone's memory.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
oh also there's the weird thing with the Falklands
as in, most people in the UK are barely aware that there's any kind of supposed rivalry going on, but Argentina hates us and is convinced we hate them and the 'Kelpers' (what people from the Falklands call themselves; Argentina apparently believes it's a British ethnic slur, but the word is not widely known here) themselves
im thinking i might make a thread about stuff i learn while reading about philosophy and related material
i think it would help motivate me to keep reading (i don't read enough these days), and maybe it would be of use to anyone else curious about the subject who isn't sure where to begin
would anyone read it?
I would
that is cool, thank you
i'll start later today, maybe
not feeling up to it rn
Whenever you are feeling up to it, I would also like to read it.
Seriously, I have a pretty strong dislike of what could be called "humiliation culture" in the world of videogames. All this "git gud" crap and gloating about "pwning" people and spamming lenny face when getting kills and gloating about no scope headshots and shit.
I wish people could get punches in their virtual faces every time they did shit like that.
That's silly, and this is coming from someone that dislikes newbie-unfriendliness a whole lot.
It's pretty simple. If you're not good at a game, and complaining, the answer is to get better however you can. And thinking people deserve a punch in the face for being happy about liking competition and pulling off cool stunts is... I want to say immature, almost. Chill out.
Obnoxious assholery is still tedious and I naturally disapprove of it though.
In before a potential "I'm wonderposting!!!1" comment: Nope.
First of all, I am quite serious about this.
Second, I'm not saying that people shouldn't try to get better at games. I'm talking about winners gloating about their victories and denigrating the losers with mockery, derision, and a generally disrespectful attitude.
The winners should be gracious, rather than prancing around trying to humiliate others with their status.
Pulling off cool stunts and liking competition is perfectly fine. Using one's placement in competitions and leaderboards as a social bludgeoning tool is what's not fine.
A common reply that people give when they do these things is "I'm just kidding around" or "it's just a joke" or "it's done in good fun" or "it's just good-natured ribbing".
Yeah, there's a limit to that, and it's a pretty short leash.
im thinking i might make a thread about stuff i learn while reading about philosophy and related material
i think it would help motivate me to keep reading (i don't read enough these days), and maybe it would be of use to anyone else curious about the subject who isn't sure where to begin
would anyone read it?
I would
that is cool, thank you
i'll start later today, maybe
not feeling up to it rn
Whenever you are feeling up to it, I would also like to read it.
cool, thanks
i will make a post probably later this evening, or maybe tomorrow morning depending on how long it takes (as i have some stuff i need to do in meatspace first)
but that's mainly because i've seen it used to rebuff requests for advice; it might be playful, but it sure isn't helpful
Truth be told I'm not a fan of it either. If someone wants to improve and they ask for advice, then my telling them strats or whatever makes such a comment irrelevant. Just better safe than sorry, especially when I've tried to help newbies.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I'm from the Midwest
That means little besides having excruciating winters and getting to be smug at having the "default" American accent
mostly i'm just reading this as a 'way in' to the discipline, and i figured i've probably outgrown Sophie's World
as someone who is thoroughly confounded by philosophy and doesn't have very much an interest in getting into it, I found Sophie's World an incredible book on its own terms and it's one of maybe a dozen novels I'd heartily recommend to just about anyone.
re: "git gud": The degree to which I'll tolerate joking in that manner mostly depends on the context.
Like, I don't mind if it's obvious that I/someone else is sarcastically lamenting the difficulty of something and the resulting reply is along those lines, but when it's nebulous or very much not meant to be a joke, just telling someone to get better at the game without saying how to do so at all is not cool.
mostly i'm just reading this as a 'way in' to the discipline, and i figured i've probably outgrown Sophie's World
as someone who is thoroughly confounded by philosophy and doesn't have very much an interest in getting into it, I found Sophie's World an incredible book on its own terms and it's one of maybe a dozen novels I'd heartily recommend to just about anyone.
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i certainly don't like people talking shit about what i studied, and i'm no STEM major
anyway, a big part of what makes Sokal so misleading is he seems to assume everyone who is French and whose writing he doesn't understand is some kind of extreme relativist
if you take his writing at face value that's the impression you're gonna come away with
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I know that's not enough, but I am.
i don't know what to say but i don't want this.
i wish we could just get along, i don't like this stuff either, i was only trying to supply some perspective
i'll start later today, maybe
not feeling up to it rn
I will be quiet about such things.
i haven't seen this either, it is true, you are right
i have seen people suggest that science people are uncultured and have a very shallow, limited understanding of the human experience, that's about it
thing is you can't really deny the usefulness of math and physics from an engineering perspective, this is stuff that's hard to ignore in a world so surrounded by technology
learning about the arts and the humanities requires a bit more humility and openness to metaphor and emotion, and not everyone is so good at that
it's certainly less misleading than the term "math nerds", because math is pretty cool and using the term like that mischaracterizes all those people who are actually into mathematics.
i intended it to refer to people who get all their info from insight wanky blogposts and act like this makes them an expert on everything
I want to punch him in the face.
In fact, I'd like to punch newbie-unfriendliness itself in the face.
I wish people could get punches in their virtual faces every time they did shit like that.
It's definitely a big part of it, definitely.
Although not the American War of Independence. Too long ago, too far away.
In terms of near neighbours, there's a mostly joking rivalry with France and a slightly more serious one with the Republic of Ireland. Certain Brits take pride our supposed difference from the mainland and/or the rest of the EU.
Within the UK, to generalize massively, everywhere that's not England hates England, while the English tend to be kind of snobby about everyone else. There are various reasons for this, which in the case of Northern Ireland include Cromwell in the 1600s, and more recently the Great Famine, Churchill, Bloody Sunday and the Troubles. Scotland has a long history of warring with England but the Highland Clearances are also a cause of some lingering resentment, as are the various historical attempts to suppress Scottish culture. With Wales i think it's fair to say there's less animosity than with the others, but it's common knowledge that Welsh language was banned not so very long ago.
Within England itself, the north dislikes the south. This again has longstanding historical roots (the Harrowing of the North was a genocidal attack on the north by the south) but mostly goes back to Thatcher's policies during the 1980s, particularly the closure of the mines, and the Hillsborough Disaster.
But the most volatile ongoing hostilities are still those internal to Northern Ireland, where the Troubles are still fresh in everyone's memory.
as in, most people in the UK are barely aware that there's any kind of supposed rivalry going on, but Argentina hates us and is convinced we hate them and the 'Kelpers' (what people from the Falklands call themselves; Argentina apparently believes it's a British ethnic slur, but the word is not widely known here) themselves
Second, I'm not saying that people shouldn't try to get better at games. I'm talking about winners gloating about their victories and denigrating the losers with mockery, derision, and a generally disrespectful attitude.
The winners should be gracious, rather than prancing around trying to humiliate others with their status.
Pulling off cool stunts and liking competition is perfectly fine. Using one's placement in competitions and leaderboards as a social bludgeoning tool is what's not fine.
Yeah, there's a limit to that, and it's a pretty short leash.
Going "git gud, loser" to them is just unnecessary, and makes you the asshole.
cool, thanks
i will make a post probably later this evening, or maybe tomorrow morning depending on how long it takes (as i have some stuff i need to do in meatspace first)
but that's mainly because i've seen it used to rebuff requests for advice; it might be playful, but it sure isn't helpful
gamefaqs exists, of course
we're aware you could probably beat us up, and that you seem to produce better footballers, the Greater London Area notwithstanding
Scotland and Wales seem to get along ok
Then again, my accent is pretty mockable...
so we all make fun of one another's accents :p
and it's always been influenced by my mum's accent which is a bizarre mix of Bedfordshire and Lancashire
It does have a really good twist mid-way through, though.
Like, I don't mind if it's obvious that I/someone else is sarcastically lamenting the difficulty of something and the resulting reply is along those lines, but when it's nebulous or very much not meant to be a joke, just telling someone to get better at the game without saying how to do so at all is not cool.
because i can't figure how to do combos, and i have no way of knowing whether i'm getting closer to executing them correctly or not
and i looked this up online out of frustration and found a bunch of people saying 'git gud' as well as other, longer responses to the same effect