The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • My dreams exceed my real life
    What happens is that neo-nazi ideas get filtered through reactionaries, which in turn gets filtered into math nerds, and the process is a good way of making fascism palatable to idiots, politicians, and Sillicon Valley.
  • edited 2015-07-09 14:51:15
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ^^ i don't see how that describes math nerds but whatever

    the neoreactionaries i've seen have been basically math nerds who support fascism so i have difficulty seeing how math nerds in general can be worse
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    What happens is that neo-nazi ideas get filtered through reactionaries, which in turn gets filtered into math nerds, and the process is a good way of making fascism palatable to idiots, politicians, and Sillicon Valley.

    that's basically what i meant by 'neoreactionaries'

    as opposed to the regular, non-tech obsessed variety of reactionary
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    ^^ i don't see how that describes math nerds but whatever

    the neoreactionaries i've seen have been basically math nerds who support fascism so i have difficulty seeing how math nerds in general can be worse

    Good point
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    In other stills you can see Mabel's sweater better.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I will not take a side on Baltimore, because I am above puny animal politics- A Math Nerd

    Gamergate is good and noble- the same Math Nerd
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    spoiler: it's because gamergate is mostly white guys
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    so yes, i see your point on snakelike and hypocritical
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i guess i feel it's unlikely that most math nerds are really covert fascists using mathy words to hide their political biases

    i feel it's more likely that there exists a spectrum ranging from people who are not racist who join the communities out of a genuine interest in math and tech, through people who are just rather ignorant and unconsciously absorb racist ideas from the community because they are bad at critical thought and easily swayed by a certain type of rhetoric, through to people who are outright fascist but pretend not to be, and finally the neoreactionaries at the extreme end of things
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Odradek said:

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    It's funny though.
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    Sadly, Richard Dawkins is, in fact, real. Oh, wait, you meant the tweet. Silly me.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    i guess i feel it's unlikely that most math nerds are really covert fascists using mathy words to hide their political biases

    i feel it's more likely that there exists a spectrum ranging from people who are not racist who join the communities out of a genuine interest in math and tech, through people who are just rather ignorant and unconsciously absorb racist ideas from the community because they are bad at critical thought and easily swayed by a certain type of rhetoric, through to people who are outright fascist but pretend not to be, and finally the neoreactionaries at the extreme end of things

    Math Nerds aren't interested in math and tech. They're interested in jerking off about how sjw don't understand that statistics proves cthulhu. Math and tech is just a background.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    @Foss:  I only he and Ricky Gervais and others weren't real.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    MachSpeed said:

    Odradek said:

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    This is not real, please do not spread this around under the assumption that it is real.
    It's funny though.
    Yes, this is why I linked it.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    p sure silicon valley really is into tech

    also i guess i'm just really confused at this point?  because you specifically said it was "all math nerds" and that by definition has to include people who really genuinely like math
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Forget it, Tach, it's Odratown.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    p sure silicon valley really is into tech

    also i guess i'm just really confused at this point?  because you specifically said it was "all math nerds" and that by definition has to include people who really genuinely like math

    Nah, those are just math geeks.

    I am talking about Math Nerds.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    You can't make up your own terms and fit everyone into them.

    Tat is what lead me to thinking everyone here was goons.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i have always considered geek and nerd to be near-synonyms

    and i mean i'm confused in general about this

    like that one time we were talking about Lewis Carroll and i copypasted the first Knot from A Tangled Tale and you responded with that gross Mask clip, what was that about?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    i have always considered geek and nerd to be near-synonyms

    and i mean i'm confused in general about this

    like that one time we were talking about Lewis Carroll and i copypasted the first Knot from A Tangled Tale and you responded with that gross Mask clip, what was that about?

    I just thought it was really gross, and I was in a silly mood, so I posted it in places where it wasn't appropriate.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    You can't make up your own terms and fit everyone into them.

    Tat is what lead me to thinking everyone here was goons.

    You're right.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    or like look at nostalgebraist's stated reasons for joining LessWrong

    i mean OK you found those risible, fair enough, but 'racism' wasn't one of the reasons
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    Tachyon said:

    i have always considered geek and nerd to be near-synonyms

    and i mean i'm confused in general about this

    like that one time we were talking about Lewis Carroll and i copypasted the first Knot from A Tangled Tale and you responded with that gross Mask clip, what was that about?

    I just thought it was really gross, and I was in a silly mood, so I posted it in places where it wasn't appropriate.

    oh ok
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    or like look at nostalgebraist's stated reasons for joining LessWrong

    i mean OK you found those risible, fair enough, but 'racism' wasn't one of the reasons

    This is true. What Math Nerds actually want is to be god kings, and racism is just a means to that end.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i suppose that's true.

    i can see a certain appeal in self-improvement and in learning about science and cognitive biases for free without university study.  i think most people assume 'rationality' is by default a good thing, so a community dedicated to it sounds quite innocuous if you know nothing else about it and have no experience with academia.
  • being a god king is silly because you could be a cat instead and people would think that you are adorable
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    becoming a cat would be better

    becoming the closest possible human approximation of a rational Ubermensch seems marginally more attainable however
  • but that sounds nasty and unpleasant!!
  • edited 2015-07-09 15:44:28
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Tachyon said:

    i suppose that's true.

    i can see a certain appeal in self-improvement and in learning about science and cognitive biases for free without university study.  i think most people assume 'rationality' is by default a good thing, so a community dedicated to it sounds quite innocuous if you know nothing else about it and have no experience with academia.

    They want self improvement and universal knowlege without ever having to deal with things they don't like. It's childish and contemptible.
  • edited 2015-07-09 15:44:49
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ^^ i didn't say otherwise, only that it sounds more attainable. :p
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Odradek said:

    Tachyon said:

    i suppose that's true.

    i can see a certain appeal in self-improvement and in learning about science and cognitive biases for free without university study.  i think most people assume 'rationality' is by default a good thing, so a community dedicated to it sounds quite innocuous if you know nothing else about it and have no experience with academia.

    They want self improvement and universal knowlege without ever having to deal with things they don't like. It's childish and contemptible.
    Fair enough.

    Self improvement and universal knowledge without ever having to deal with things i don't like sounds pretty great to me, but i never said i wasn't childish.
  • edited 2015-07-09 15:46:43
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Well, addendum that it sounds pretty great but obviously i don't believe it's possible or a sensible expectation.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Actually i wouldn't want universal knowledge.

    Universal knowledge + 'never having to deal with things i don't like' is contradictory, i think
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Hair.

    New haircut?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Tools said:
    That is hair, and quite a lot of it.
  • edited 2015-07-09 15:52:59
    ಠ_ಠ
    My hair is particularly bushy today (damn humid weather), so I thought I'd get a picture of it. 
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    my mum's hair goes like that
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    mine would but the hairdresser thinned it
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Converting real time to in-game time is fun. 3 minutes is one FFXIV hour, meaning most dungeons average 5-7 hours in length, and the battle against Bahamut Prime was over 4 hours long. Also Bahamut's heart is radioactive so we're all probably slowly dying of poisoning. Oh well!
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    plop
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    Puyo Puyo Pop.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    po pi po
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Papaya~paya?
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Today's Daily Mail headline: "Fearless George Slays The Dragons"

    (George is George Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer and all round awful person.)
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    the dragons???
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    One Sunday morn young Lambton went
    A-fishing' in the Wear;
    An' catched a fish upon he's heuk,
    He thowt leuk't varry queer.
    But whatt'n a kind of fish it was
    Young Lambton cuddent tell.
    He waddn't fash te carry'd hyem,
    So he hoyed it doon a well.

    cho: Whisht! Lads, haad yor gobs,
    An Aa'll tell ye's aall an aaful story
    Whisht! Lads, haad yor gobs,
    An' Aa'll tell ye 'boot the worm.

    Noo Lambton felt inclined te gan
    An' fight i' foreign wars.
    he joined a troop o' Knights that cared
    For nowther woonds nor scars,
    An' off he went te Palestine
    Where queer things him befel,
    An' varry seun forgat aboot
    The queer worm i' the well.

    But the worm got fat an' growed and' growed
    An' growed an aaful size;
    He'd greet big teeth, a greet big gob,
    An' greet big goggle eyes.
    An' when at neets he craaled aboot
    Te pick up bits o' news,
    If he felt dry upon the road,
    He milked a dozen coos.

    This feorful worm wad often feed
    On caalves an' lambs an' sheep,
    An' swally little barins alive
    When they laid doon te sleep.
    An' when he'd eaten aall he cud
    An' he had had he's fill,
    He craaled away an' lapped he's tail
    Seven times roond Pensher Hill.

    The news of this myest aaful worm
    An' his queer gannins on
    Seun crossed the seas, gat te the ears
    Ov brave and' bowld Sor John.
    So hyem he cam an' catched the beast
    An' cut 'im in twe haalves,
    An' that seun stopped he's eatin' bairns,
    An' sheep an' lambs and caalves.

    So noo ye knaa hoo aall the foaks
    On byeth sides ov the Wear
    Lost lots o' sheep an' lots o' sleep
    An' leeved i' mortal feor.
    So let's hev one te brave Sor John
    That kept the bairns frae harm,
    Saved coos an' caalves by myekin' haalves
    O' the famis Lambton Worm.

    Final Chorus

    Noo lads, Aa'll haad me gob,
    That's aall Aa knaa aboot the story
    Ov Sor John's clivvor job
    Wi' the aaful Lambton Worm.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    folkposting!
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    ... I just realized Jabberwocky is probably a parody of that song.
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