The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Thing is you have a nucleus of like a relatively small amount of people who are genuinely hateful, and then a whole bunch of other people who just don't get it.

    Are the latter also responsible if the former does something hurtful? I think so.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i'm aware that people have joined gamergate with good intentions

    but this is how hate groups recruit members: they claim not to be attacking a group, but to defending a common cause that is under attack

    the indoctrination process is a gradual one
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    who's meant by 4chan here? because it's very easy to also claim that 4chan is a huge unified blob
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Like I think they adopted a sea lion somewhere, and I can't think of a single other positive thing they've managed to do. Because that kind of stuff requires collaboration and cohesion.

    Whereas doxxing and various threats only require one lone lunatic to claim he's doing it for the whole group.
    Copyin' my tweets

    This vague relationship with an animal makes rape and death threats okay.
    I have a friend who has a giraffe named after her. She's wanted in seven countries but no one can touch her now.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    (these days, when people say "4chan", they usually seem to mean /pol/)
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    uuuugh

    i mean a number of anons on 4chan

    i don't mean 'all of 4chan' any more than when heapers complain about 'tumblr social justice' they are talking about all of tumblr
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    oh sorry, you mean you want the board?

    /v/
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i have to go feed my Grandpa, brb
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    yes, that's what i meant

    i'm guessing /v/'s ban on gamergate talk hasn't been very effective
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Specifically, /vg/, it seems. Thus, "Vivian James."
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    And that's the last thing I'll say about it. Back to complaining about capitalism and colonialism now.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    4chan is incredibly transphobic, even on /lgbt/, which is mostly trans people. It's not much more transphobic than a lot of people in real life, though, and that is why I learn to not be sensitive to it, even if some of it is really hateful and disgusting. For now, I will try to not live in a fantasy world where I can pretend to have a vag and be a "real" female from birth and no one challenges that and etc., because the reality is that I'm a boy who wants to be a girl and lots of people will hate me for that, and the closer I get to my dream of emulating a cis female, the more they will hate me.
  • Miko said:

    4chan is incredibly transphobic, even on /lgbt/, which is mostly trans people. It's not much more transphobic than a lot of people in real life, though, and that is why I learn to not be sensitive to it, even if some of it is really hateful and disgusting. For now, I will try to not live in a fantasy world where I can pretend to have a vag and be a "real" female from birth and no one challenges that and etc., because the reality is that I'm a boy who wants to be a girl and lots of people will hate me for that, and the closer I get to my dream of emulating a cis female, the more they will hate me.

    I think you have perhaps allowed yourself to indulge in self-loathing again.

    Being transgendered is not a "fantasy", and I'm sure you know that. Anyone who tells you that is a bigot.

    Surely you would not accuse other transgendered people of indulging in fantasy, would you? There is no reason to do it to yourself.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Therefore, every rational being must so act as if he were through his maxim always a legislating member in the universal kingdom of ends.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Man, fuck Crowley.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Maybe it is a form of self-loathing, I'm not sure. Maybe it's a way of coping.
  • edited 2014-12-12 09:49:19
    My dreams exceed my real life

    Man, fuck Crowley.

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  • Well, I will not tell you what to think.

    But I think it's silly.

    I'm genderfluid and plenty of people don't think that's even "real".

    I'm bisexual too which is another thing that people don't think is real.

    also

    Someone shoot my router, please.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i think it was /v/, not /vg/, but i could be wrong.

    Vivian James is supposed to sound like 'video games'.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    http://freakytrigger.co.uk/populist/

    This is an interesting project.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Miko, however you feel best describes yourself, that is fine.  If it's a coping mechanism, well, i think that's sad, but i can't fault you for it.

    Still, people have every right and reason to object to being discriminated against.
  • WHY IS MY CONNECTION SO AWFUL TODAAAAAAAAAAAAY

    also, my blood pressure is uncomfortably out of whack
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I like Elton John
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Jesus Fucking Christ. I totally forgot that the army can call me back at any time.

    I don't know where anything is, my uniform doesn't fit, I don't remember any of the commands, and I just. Can't do it.

    They didn't call me, mind you. Looking at my social services stuff just reminded me that it exists. Hopefully the last few weeks of my mandatory service (where I was basically the worst worker imaginable) made them decide that I'm just not worth it.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I don't even remember anybody's fucking name.

    But then there are lots of references that state "your unit will brief you" and nobody ever did, so maybe they don't want me back at all and never did.

    Or, someone fucked up somewhere and now I could be fucked.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    What has happened, exactly?

    Maybe your unit hasn't briefed you because they have no intentions of calling you back.

    How common an occurrence are we talking about here?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Nothing happened, I was just looking at the army's internet portal. There was stuff I hadn't considered in a while.

    And I also don't know. I'm the only one of three sons in the army. My older brother is in civil defense (rescue and stuff) and my younger brother is with the police.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i guess it doesn't hurt to prepare for the worst...

    Hopefully nothing will come of it.
  • Is this sort of like selective service registration here in the US where it's technically possible you could be called up at any time but fantastically unlikely or does it actually happen somewhat often?
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    It seems to happen with some regularity, or at least that's how things look from what I've read online.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Army is hell, and anyone who tells you otherwise are either lying or they were damned long ago.
  • My father was in the Navy for a time, I am in no rush to follow in his footsteps.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i've gotten the impression, sometimes, when seeing people with military backgrounds reminisce, that theirs is a solidarity formed in hardship.
  • Some people seem to enjoy it, I know I wouldn't though.

    Anyway, my taskbar just vanished for a minute, my computer made the same sound it makes whenever it's opening something particularly processor-intensive, and then it reappeared.

    Weird.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Sounds a bit unsettling.
  • I'm starting to think something fishy's going on :/
  • edited 2014-12-12 11:04:49
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I never really made any friends in my two years there.

    I guess if you had a choice it'd be more bearable. But I didn't.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Oh, yeah, i've also seen a lot of posts about 'funny anecdotes' that happened in boot camp, which turn out to just be some poor sod getting publically humiliated in a really bad way, sometimes to the point where he breaks down.
  • Tachyon said:

    Oh, yeah, i've also seen a lot of posts about 'funny anecdotes' that happened in boot camp, which turn out to just be some poor sod getting publically humiliated in a really bad way, sometimes to the point where he breaks down.

    Given that bootcamp is designed to make you antisocial and generally incapable of feeling any empathy for other human beings, that's not shocking.

    Also, the second I said "something seems fishy", my wi-fi stopped cutting and my computer is running smoothly.

    That is fuckin' weird.

    Shit's possessed.
  • I have cut a caper with the dancing mad god
    My stepbrother joined the army - I am pretty sure he had a fairly idealized version of what it would be in his mind before joining. He's pretty anxious to just finish up and move on past it when he can, now. 

    I don't like how the military is so glorified so often in the public sphere. I understand why it is, but I still don't like it. 
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I like how the guy who wrote Me and the Devil Blues ended up selling his soul to the devil of fanservice at the crossroads of manga hiatus
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    bootcamp is designed to make you antisocial and generally incapable of feeling any empathy for other human beings


    i don't know why this never twigged with me.

    It's really obvious, now you point it out.

    i always felt kind of inferior reading about this stuff. Like, weak, too emotional.
  • EU4 bugged out and the war I've been waging for the past hour and a half just stopped happening and I got nothing out of it.

    I hate today.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    *offers hug*
  • I am not dealing with my suzerain's rebels, the Emperor can go fuck himself.
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