The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    that is the best jumping ferret
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    CA: The only bugaboo I have is that all the themes for 2.1 kind of suck, and no one's updated Smarty yet :/ I suppose we'll have to just deal with the yucky generic theme until I can wrap my head around what the differences are.
  • edited 2014-11-21 03:37:11
    Next one coming up!
    "Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can..."

    a spider can be eaten by his mate

    does Spider-Man get eaten by his mate?

    CHECKMATE, SONGWRITERS
  • edited 2014-11-21 03:43:11
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

    Making people think about how their use of gender-related descriptors to refer to concepts that are gender neutral highlights that gender bias, and is thus a first step to their recognition that they're arbitrarily assigning traits to genders and they shouldn't.

    No, the best way to go about things is to encourage people to be more comfortable with questioning their gender and providing a spectrum of answers, not to insist on none.

    I can assign gender to anything. I often do. And I assign gendered descriptors to myself, often to things that are not associated with my sex.
  • Making people think about how their use of gender-related descriptors to refer to concepts that are gender neutral highlights that gender bias, and is thus a first step to their recognition that they're arbitrarily assigning traits to genders and they shouldn't.

    No, the best way to go about things is to encourage people to be more comfortable with questioning their gender and providing a spectrum of answers, not to insist on none.

    I can assign gender to anything. I often do. And I assign gendered descriptors to myself, often to things that are not associated with my sex.
    That's just fine if you're doing it privately or in your own creative work.

    But public speech has an effect on others, and using a gendered descriptor in place of (what to oneself is) an equivalent gender-neutral term has several drawbacks:
    1. other people may not necessarily associate the same trait with that gender, leading to possible confusion.
    2. introducing gender into the message can introduce additional meaning, which can complicate the communication and possibly distract the audience toward irrelevant thoughts.  (unless this is one's secret objective.)
    3. it associates one more time that trait with that gender when the trait is really gender-neutral, which contributes to the acceptability of biases and stereotypes when dealing with actual people.
  • So Jim "Twinbeard" Crawford* tweeted at me, that's pretty cool.

    Twitter sometimes lets you pretend you matter for a while.

    *The Frog Fractions guy
  • well I was joking but my e-mail address is in my contact bar on twitter, so who knows
  • Odradek said:

    naney said:

    SHIT THIS IS JUST LIKE A DREAM I HAD


    I WAS SITTING IN THIS EXACT SPOT, READING A BBC ARTICLE JUST LIKE I AM AT THIS EXACT MOMENT

    EXCEPT IN MY DREAM THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT A CHEF THAT HAD PERFORMED SOME NOTEWORTHY DUPLICITOUS ACTION
    one of the sickest moments in cinema imo
  • every character in that film is aware that they are in a film
  • note how the dude is talking about the counter and pauses to let the camera pan across to the counter before continuing
  • Odradek said:

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    vash forgot that white men cant jump
  • edited 2014-11-21 07:52:32
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

    That's just fine if you're doing it privately or in your own creative work.

    But public speech has an effect on others, and using a gendered descriptor in place of (what to oneself is) an equivalent gender-neutral term has several drawbacks:
    1. other people may not necessarily associate the same trait with that gender, leading to possible confusion.
    2. introducing gender into the message can introduce additional meaning, which can complicate the communication and possibly distract the audience toward irrelevant thoughts.  (unless this is one's secret objective.)
    3. it associates one more time that trait with that gender when the trait is really gender-neutral, which contributes to the acceptability of biases and stereotypes when dealing with actual people.

    You seem to be really really hung up on the idea of stereotypes. Like, can't you just trust people to understand what you mean? Are they really so stupid?

    I thought we were intelligent.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    sunn wolf said:

    every character in that film is aware that they are in a film

    Such a good movie.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    sunn wolf said:

    related:
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    Not surprised.

    sunn wolf said:

    Odradek said:

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    vash forgot that white men cant jump
    I know now. u_u
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Dr. Barrett let us listen to Queen as part of our lecture

    Hell yeah
  • edited 2014-11-21 09:24:16

    sredni does not need to jump, for i shall carry him :3
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    =w=
  • carry him off to the sofa for PERILOUSLY COZY CUDDLES
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    SO DANGEROUS.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    What is it with fantasy and onion knights? How did this become A Thing?
  • That's just fine if you're doing it privately or in your own creative work.

    But public speech has an effect on others, and using a gendered descriptor in place of (what to oneself is) an equivalent gender-neutral term has several drawbacks:
    1. other people may not necessarily associate the same trait with that gender, leading to possible confusion.
    2. introducing gender into the message can introduce additional meaning, which can complicate the communication and possibly distract the audience toward irrelevant thoughts.  (unless this is one's secret objective.)
    3. it associates one more time that trait with that gender when the trait is really gender-neutral, which contributes to the acceptability of biases and stereotypes when dealing with actual people.

    You seem to be really really hung up on the idea of stereotypes. Like, can't you just trust people to understand what you mean? Are they really so stupid?

    I thought we were intelligent.
    I can, but only when people stop to think through them, and are willing to question their assumptions in the process.  Unfortunately, we don't always have time to stop and think, and sometimes we just have to do things on the fly, and that's when stereotypes come into play.

    I could take the time to talk to everyone individually and try to convince them that they shouldn't make these assumptions about how gender works and should treat people as individual fellow human beings rather than as collections of assumed traits, but that's neither feasible nor welcome.  So, instead, it seems better to reduce the associative "fuel" that sustains the stereotype in the first place.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Date Dictated: 09/10/2014
    Date Typed: 05/03/2024
  • What is it with fantasy and onion knights? How did this become A Thing?

    I've never heard of Onion Knights before except in the context of Final Fantasy III.  (That's original FF3, not FF3US for SNES.)
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    There are also Onion Knights in A Song of Ice and Fire as well as in Dark Souls.
  • edited 2014-11-21 10:20:27
    Ah.  I didn't know about those.  I wonder if they are references to FF3's?  Are there examples that predate FF3, or roughly contemporary with it but in English?
  • Holy shit, just now from looking it up on Wikipedia did I realize that (1) A Song of Ice and Fire is a book series, and (2) this Game of Thrones TV series is probably based on the first book in it.
  • edited 2014-11-21 10:40:12
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    Exhibit #20141121103944: nonsense
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    There are also Onion Knights in A Song of Ice and Fire as well as in Dark Souls.

    The onion knight in Dark Souls is based on a character in Berserk, I believe.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    http://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/2myg86/xkcd_1450_aibox_experiment/cm8vn6e MATH NERD SLAPFIGHT

    MATH NERD SLAPFIGHT

    MATH NERD SLAPFIGHT
  • edited 2014-11-21 11:26:05
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Holy shit, just now from looking it up on Wikipedia did I realize that (1) A Song of Ice and Fire is a book series, and (2) this Game of Thrones TV series is probably based on the first book in it.

    Wait, you didn't know that already?

    The first season roughly encompasses the first book only. The next few seasons cover the next few books, but at kind of a curious pace. The first book was published less than a year after Final Fantasy III came out, and Martin started writing stories in the setting in the late '80s, so I get the feeling the "Onion Knight" thing is a coincidence rather than a reference. Ditto Berserk, which started running in 1989 or something.
  • song of fire and LAME
  • edited 2014-11-21 11:42:13
    ^^ I had heard of A Song of Ice and Fire (which I misremembered as "Song of Fire and Ice"), but I am completely unfamiliar with the series.  I hadn't heard of the name "Game of Thrones" at all before this TV series became a thing; I think at some point I confused Game of Thrones with Hunger Games.

    (I don't know fantasy lit...sorry... -_-)

    And I guess the "onion knight" thing might just be a coincidence.
  • importance is not a limited quantity but attention is, unfortunately
  • My dreams exceed my real life
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  • kill living beings
    Wallman said:

    "Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can..."


    a spider can be eaten by his mate

    does Spider-Man get eaten by his mate?

    CHECKMATE, SONGWRITERS
    Not All Spiders
  • i feel so lethargic today

    just dont want to do anything at all
  • i supppose the day before yesterday i was up at 4.50am getting a coach to llondon and yesterday i spent 12 hours hitch hiking but buh
  • i don't want to do much either

    but i gotta go donate plasma and do library stuff

    im gonna watch more natsume yujin-cho woo
  • im supposed to be going out and writing some poems and i dont have the mental concentration to write any poems and if i head out i will probably be exhausted by like midnight
  • its one of those days where you start listening to an album and then a while later you realise the album finished half an hour ago and youre sitting there with your headphones on listening to nothing
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I woke up and then just sat in bed for more than two hours before getting up

    this must be some kinda record for me
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I've done that before, but it's usually involved going online since I sleep with an Android device by my bed

    I imagine you don't do that

    I'm pretty much addicted to computers, in the most literal sense of the word >_>
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    nah, I just sat there and thought about stuff.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Did you think about me? :3
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    not really, I mostly thought about abstractions
  • edited 2014-11-21 14:13:20
    You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    SUPER HYPER

    MARI♥MERY
    QUEST

    ©1993 ALICORN INTERACTIVE

    NEW GAME
    LOAD GAME

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