The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu

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    I'm still surprised that they managed to screw it up that badly, that they misread what the players wanted so thoroughly. 
    You're just le angry entitled nerd :^) *nods disrespectfully towards you*
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yarrun, why should people cater to what fans want?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The ending of Mass Effect 3 was dumb in a way that didn't feel like an artistic decision so much as a weird cop-out and it was kind of a middle finger to people who were invested in the story.

    That said, Phillip Pullman pulled the same thing and he doesn't get this kind of hate.
  • Yarrun, why should people cater to what fans want?


  • DAMNIT NILLA YOU ATE MY POST FUCK YOU
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    What I'm saying is that I respect your artistic decision and commend your bravery, but you were dumb as hell bro
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    nilla why
  • Yarrun, why should people cater to what fans want?

    Mass Effect 3 was the culmination of a beloved trilogy that primarily catered to fans by allowing them some form of creative input on the story. The ending went against literally everything that the story was building up to, thematically, plot-wise and mechanically.

    To not cater to the fans at the worst possible moment is like getting literally kicked out of a restaurant at the end of a many-course meal.
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    lol they fucked up
  • Odradek said:

    Why do people get angry at sampling.


    Like, by definition it's changing the context and meaning.
    Most of the complaints I've seen about sampling are people with a limited definition of a) what constitutes music and b) what constitutes musical ability (i.e. "they can't play "real" instruments").

    So sampling breaks both of their personal definitions and they especially get angry if the song sampled was from a song or band they grew up with and idolized and is as such untouchable.
    are you aware that "American Wedding" is literally a herald of the apocalypse.
  • also is hex actually the original spelling? I didn't think German used Xs.

    Pennsylvania German uses them more frequently, although the earlier colloquial High German also uses x in the spelling. Additionally, the verb form (which is unchanged) has actually been in English longer than either variation of the noun, although you are correct that the original noun use (a witch or medicine man/woman) is fairly rare outside of Pennsylvania.
    that's a hexenmeister, at least for the male.

    I am not sure if the female is hexenmesteiren(s?) but I assume it is.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Yarrun, why should people cater to what fans want?

    Mass Effect 3 was the culmination of a beloved trilogy that primarily catered to fans by allowing them some form of creative input on the story. The ending went against literally everything that the story was building up to, thematically, plot-wise and mechanically.

    To not cater to the fans at the worst possible moment is like getting literally kicked out of a restaurant at the end of a many-course meal.
    Then it's not about catering to the fans, it's about being inconsistent and making bad storytelling decisions. Complaining about how it wasn't "for the fans" is totally immaterial when you take a left turn at the last minute and don't look where you're going. Quality control and pandering are not the same thing.

    also is hex actually the original spelling? I didn't think German used Xs.

    Pennsylvania German uses them more frequently, although the earlier colloquial High German also uses x in the spelling. Additionally, the verb form (which is unchanged) has actually been in English longer than either variation of the noun, although you are correct that the original noun use (a witch or medicine man/woman) is fairly rare outside of Pennsylvania.
    that's a hexenmeister, at least for the male.

    I am not sure if the female is hexenmesteiren(s?) but I assume it is.
    The term hex or hexer is the original form, at least on this side of the pond. It's not a formal use, and is likely a contraction of the above, but those are the forms I've seen in the literature.
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    moo
  • :33 < im always grimark 

    :33 < w33d is goth

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    okay.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    drawings on notebook paper, that takes me back
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    *calls the Royal Guards to escort Imi to the nearest Dairy Queen*
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    yay, Dairy Queen!

    I am very dairy
  • kill living beings
    you dense fuck
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    no u
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS

    Odradek said:

    Why do people get angry at sampling.


    Like, by definition it's changing the context and meaning.
    Most of the complaints I've seen about sampling are people with a limited definition of a) what constitutes music and b) what constitutes musical ability (i.e. "they can't play "real" instruments").

    So sampling breaks both of their personal definitions and they especially get angry if the song sampled was from a song or band they grew up with and idolized and is as such untouchable.
    I remember one morning-show skit on, of all things, an oldies station in Charlottesville complaining about PM Dawn sampling Spandau Ballet.

    Come on, guys, "True" was not even a decade old at the time. It's not like they sampled the Beatles. 

    (Also, in case you haven't noticed, there was definitely a racial line here. "White" music didn't do that sort of thing, no, not at all.)
  • lee4hmz said:

    Odradek said:

    Why do people get angry at sampling.


    Like, by definition it's changing the context and meaning.
    Most of the complaints I've seen about sampling are people with a limited definition of a) what constitutes music and b) what constitutes musical ability (i.e. "they can't play "real" instruments").

    So sampling breaks both of their personal definitions and they especially get angry if the song sampled was from a song or band they grew up with and idolized and is as such untouchable.
    I remember one morning-show skit on, of all things, an oldies station in Charlottesville complaining about PM Dawn sampling Spandau Ballet.

    Come on, guys, "True" was not even a decade old at the time. It's not like they sampled the Beatles. 

    (Also, in case you haven't noticed, there was definitely a racial line here. "White" music didn't do that sort of thing, no, not at all.)


    not at all
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    People who assert that "real music" is not sample-based clearly know very little about modern classical music, or jazz, or blues-rock.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Hehehe. 

    Speaking of "we're white, we're white, we're really, really white", I somehow started listening to some of the big hits of 1982 on YouTube, and:


    I remember hearing that song on the radio then; I was about 5 at the time. When Todd complains about the very early 1980s being a wasteland of easy-listening dreck, this is what he means. (Seriously, Christopher Cross could kick this guy's ass...which is saying something if you've ever heard Christopher Cross.)
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Sredni: Even pop music does it. I know Van Halen pretty much came out and said they swiped most of "Jump" from "Kiss on my List", and the verse riff in "Material Girl" sounds a whole lot like the chorus from "You Should Hear How She Talks About You".
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    It would blow the minds of these people if you told them about the role that Nile Rodgers had in both 1970s "black music" and 1980s "white music".
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Random thought: How many people even like the original Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? for reasons beyond nostalgia? I just kind of wonder if anyone here, at least, has watched it recently
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    last time I saw Scooby-Doo was probably, I dunno, a dozen years ago?

    I think that "sampling" as an aesthetic can be quite interesting and not just in a musical context
  • edited 2014-09-10 17:10:44

    People who assert that "real music" is not sample-based clearly know very little about modern classical music, or jazz, or blues-rock.

    Even then, they'll give the justification that at least those musicians were playing "real Instruments", at least for jazz and blues-rock and I doubt they even know Musique concrète and other tape or computer music in modern classical exists.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    True musical progress.
  • lee4hmz said:

    Hehehe. 


    Speaking of "we're white, we're white, we're really, really white", I somehow started listening to some of the big hits of 1982 on YouTube, and:


    I remember hearing that song on the radio then; I was about 5 at the time. When Todd complains about the very early 1980s being a wasteland of easy-listening dreck, this is what he means. (Seriously, Christopher Cross could kick this guy's ass...which is saying something if you've ever heard Christopher Cross.)
    do you have a problem with Gulf & Western

    People who assert that "real music" is not sample-based clearly know very little about modern classical music, or jazz, or blues-rock.

    Even then, they'll give the justification that at least those musicians were playing "real Instruments", at least for jazz and blues-rock and I doubt they even know Musique concrète and other tape or computer music in modern classical exists.
    the argument basically boils down to "they're both stealing but at least my favorite musicians are stealing the more difficult way"

  • True musical progress.
    naney.mov
  • TIL Gap (*and by extension Banana Republic*)  pays $9 an hour starting minimum.

    (*job interview hype intensifies*)

  • True musical progress.
    That is awesome

    People who assert that "real music" is not sample-based clearly know very little about modern classical music, or jazz, or blues-rock.

    Even then, they'll give the justification that at least those musicians were playing "real Instruments", at least for jazz and blues-rock and I doubt they even know Musique concrète and other tape or computer music in modern classical exists.
    the argument basically boils down to "they're both stealing but at least my favorite musicians are stealing the more difficult way"
    Pretty much.
  • Anonus said:

    Random thought: How many people even like the original Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? for reasons beyond nostalgia? I just kind of wonder if anyone here, at least, has watched it recently

    It was my favorite show back in the day. 

    Right now, there's a,..40% chance that I'd still like it. Maybe 30%
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I never really cared for Original Flavor Scooby, but you knew that
  • kill living beings
    cpt violation
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    No stranger than catcopter.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    rocket j. squirrel
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Fun thought of the day: Next year there will be teenagers younger than Kingdom Hearts.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    rocket j. squirrel

    bullwinkle j. moose
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I was totally okay with Mass Effect 3's ending.
  • *heavy Scottish accent* hit muh right in thuh feels
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