The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • began reading Jojo after much friend pestering.

    maybe 20 pages in & someone's already lost an eye

    Yes, but later, frog punching.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Araki really has it in for animals.
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
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    A reminder that Araki was 52 when this photo was taken.
  • edited 2014-09-02 20:27:00

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    A reminder that Araki was 52 when this photo was taken.

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    Tom Ford at 53

    some people just have good genes i suppose
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

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    A reminder that Araki was 52 when this photo was taken.

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    Tom Ford at 53

    some people just have good genes i suppose
    The Sting Effect, in full... effect.

    Same goes for Björk, although unflattering photos do exist of her. I think it's a matter of context, though.
  • It has 11th chords and a bass solo, what else do you want

    i feel like they should have puled at the edges of the song a bit more, maybe taken the main melody and improvised around it for a while, traded off some solos between instruments back and forth for a while

    as it it just feels like Baby with jazz window dressing, y'know what I mean?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'd say it they managed to at least elevate it to a catchy but frivolous jazz-funk-pop number rather than a complete waste of time and electricity. They could have done more with it, but what they did at least improved the template to something worth doing things with.
  • also the dude's JB voice is uncanny
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yeah, a little less JB and more Stevie Wonder would have done, uh, wonders.
  • Pretty standard straight fit cords

    Retailed at way too much
    that is the typing of a man who knows what it is like to pay way too much for a thing
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    le nakamura face
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I wonder how much of my disdain for LW is based on finding their worldview terminally boring for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.
  • Odradek said:

    I wonder how much of my disdain for LW is based on finding their worldview terminally boring for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.

    prolly a big chunk
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    naney said:

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/death-to-the-gamer/

    i can't believe gamers are fucking dead

    Like a row of tetris blocks
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Sometimes i am sad

    then i remember /r/nihilism exists.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Natalism years later, I find the other side
  • edited 2014-09-02 21:54:40

    tbh i'm still a 14 year old nihilist at heart, i've just read more things since then
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    I wonder how much of my disdain for LW is based on finding their worldview terminally boring for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.

    Because it is boring as hell. It's like the nerd version of the dudebro "no homo" types on /fit/.
  • edited 2014-09-02 22:00:11
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I'm pretty OK with existential nihilism, to be honest. Life, the universe and everything can have no intrinsic meaning or objective value, but that doesn't mean I can't give myself a subjective reason to live and do what's right. Pain exists and I can help reduce it in the world. That is purpose.
  • im p darn sure most of the no homo types post on bodybuilding forum dot com
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I'm pretty OK with existential nihilism, to be honest. Life, the universe and everything can have no intrinsic meaning or objective value, but that doesn't mean I can't give myself a subjective reason to live and do what's right. Pain exists and I can help reduce it in the world. That is purpose.

    This is a lot of people.

    Most of whom don't make a subreddit called /r/nihilism.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Like, so many anti-natalist/pessimist/nihilist types just want to sit back and do nothing because it's all futile, but why not do the opposite? Why not fight the void because it makes your life feel meaningful? Propagate the amelioration of suffering. Make the world happier, even fleetingly, and you have made a victory against this cycle of suffering. Live to be a fly in the ointment of the grinding wheel. To be happy and spread joy in the face of universal pain is insurrection. Why give credit to this futile system by accepting it? You will die and maybe it will all be moot, but in that time you have fought and, in the littlest way, you have one. You were happy, and those you touched were happy. Life is painful, but if you make it less painful, you rebel. You are free.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    moo
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The thing that was annoying about antinatalists was that they spend a lot of time calling themselves antinatalists, establishing group solidarity, and working out what an antinatalist perspective is on any given issue.

    Them, when you went to criticize them, antinatalism suddenly became a term for a bunch of radically different forms of thought that were just overlapping for a little while and your critique only targets a small minority.

    Then once the storm of criticism passed
  • edited 2014-09-02 22:15:55
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I think that's my basic solution to the problem of everything sucking: Make everyone as happy and comfortable in their lives as possible. Hell, Ligotti brings this up in a lot of recent interviews, with great passion, so how is it that this message escapes these people? A known scholar of pessimist philosophy, horrendously depressed and repulsed by human consciousness, and he's saying that everyone deserves to live as happily as they can. But these false acolytes revel in their own misery without empathy or intellectual rigour. It's not looking for a way to assuage the pain of mankind; it's a self-pity party of angry, lonely people who take the big idea and use it to justify their own withdrawal into internal degradation.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I think that's my basic solution to the problem of everything sucking: Make everyone as happy and comfortable in their lives as possible. Hell, Ligotti brings this up in a lot of recent interviews, with great passion, so how is it that this message escapes these people? A known scholar of pessimist philosophy, horrendously depressed and repulsed by human consciousness, and he's saying that everyone deserves to live as happily as they can. But these false acolytes revel in their own misery without empathy or intellectual rigour. It's not looking for a way to assuage the pain of mankind; it's a self-pity party of angry, lonely people who take the big idea and use it to justify their own withdrawal into degradation.

    Well their crime is their punishment, so it's not worth getting angry.
  • I think that's my basic solution to the problem of everything sucking: Make everyone as happy and comfortable in their lives as possible. Hell, Ligotti brings this up in a lot of recent interviews, with great passion, so how is it that this message escapes these people? A known scholar of pessimist philosophy, horrendously depressed and repulsed by human consciousness, and he's saying that everyone deserves to live as happily as they can. But these false acolytes revel in their own misery without empathy or intellectual rigour. It's not looking for a way to assuage the pain of mankind; it's a self-pity party of angry, lonely people who take the big idea and use it to justify their own withdrawal into internal degradation.

    *likes*
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I don't get optimism or pessimism, really
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Discordianism makes much more sense
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I don't get optimism or pessimism, really

    It's a false dilemma
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
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    And that is why I just leave the conversation whenever philosophy is brought up.

    Because I make baby Spinoza cry.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    My opinion on Nihilism in any form is, -- -.-- / --- .--. .. -. .. --- -. / --- -. / -. .. .... .. .-.. .. ... -- / .. -. / .- -. -.-- / ..-. --- .-. -- ---... / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- --..-- / -. --- ? / .-.. .. ..-. . / .. ... / -- . .- -. .. -. --. ..-. ..- .-.. / .- -. -.. / .. -- .--. --- .-. - .- -. - / .- -. -.. / .. .----. -- / -. --- - / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. ..- - / ..- .--. / .-- .. - .... / .- -. -.-- / .. -.. . .- / - .... .- - / .. - / .. ... / .-.. . ... ... / - .... .- -. / ... .. --. -. .. ..-. .. -.-. .- -. - .-.-.- / - .... . .-. . / .. ... / .. -. - .-. .. -. ... .. -.-. / -- . .- -. .. -. --. --..-- / - .... . .-. . / .. ... / --- -... .--- . -.-. - .. ...- . / .--. ..- .-. .--. --- ... . --..-- / .-.. .. ..-. . / .. ... / .-- --- .-. - .... / .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. / .- -. -.. / ..-. --- .-. / .--. . - . .----. ... / ... .- -.- . / - .... . .-. . / .. ... / .- / .--. .-.. .- -. / .-- .. - .... --- ..- - / . -. -.. .-.-.- / --. . - / - .... .. ... / -- --- -.. . .-. -. .. ... - .. -.-. / .--. --- ... - -....- .-. . .- .-.. .. --.. .- - .. --- -. -....- - .... .- - -....- - .... . -....- .-- --- .-. .-.. -.. -....- .. ... -....- - . .-. .-. .. ..-. -.-- .. -. --. / ... - ..- ..-. ..-. / .. -. / - .... . / ... .... --- .-- . .-. / -... . -.-. .- ..- ... . / ... -.-. .-. . .-- / - .... . / .-.. .- ... - / ....- ----- ----- / -.-- . .- .-. ... / --- ..-. / - .... --- ..- --. .... - .-.-.- / .- -. -.. / - .... .- - / .. -. -.-. .-.. ..- -.. . ... / -.-- --- ..- --..-- / .... . --. . .-.. .-.-.- / .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- / .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- / .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- / .- -. -.. / - .... .- - / .. ... / .-- .... -.-- / .. / .--- ..- ... - / .-.. . .- ...- . / - .... . / -.-. --- -. ...- . .-. ... .- - .. --- -. / .-- .... . -. . ...- . .-. / .--. .... .. .-.. --- ... --- .--. .... -.-- / .. ... / -... .-. --- ..- --. .... - / ..- .--. .-.-.-
    And that is why I just leave the conversation whenever philosophy is brought up.

    Because I make baby Spinoza cry.

    Hegel wasn't a nihilist tho
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    stuff just happens

    /deep
  • My dreams exceed my real life
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Odradek said:

    The thing that was annoying about antinatalists was that they spend a lot of time calling themselves antinatalists, establishing group solidarity, and working out what an antinatalist perspective is on any given issue.


    Them, when you went to criticize them, antinatalism suddenly became a term for a bunch of radically different forms of thought that were just overlapping for a little while and your critique only targets a small minority.

    Then once the storm of criticism passed
    That happens with all groups, to some extent.

    It was just more obvious with antinatalism because of its small size.
  • edited 2014-09-02 22:31:34
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    Well their crime is their punishment, so it's not worth getting angry.

    And yet... I pity many of them. Some of them are doubtlessly just acting out based on deep-seated issues in dire need of treatment, and they torture themselves with their own dogma. Some of them are just using their ideals as an excuse to be monstrous creeps, but I feel for the ones who are just trapped in their own heads.

    I don't think it's too hard to look at the organic, living world and see as much or more death and suffering and cruelty in its design than beauty and balance and growth, but if anything I think that such horror demands a proactive response. Perhaps it is as simple as donating to charity or adopting rescue animals, but in any case it should be the imperative of every pessimist to curb the suffering of this world where they see it, to whatever degree they can. One candle in the dark may be snuffed out in a moment, but it was there, and that is what matters. Every moment is vital.

    I want them to understand this. I want this world to suffer less than it would if I had done nothing, and they are a part of this world.

    That is my creed. I looked into the void, the void looked into me, and I spat into it.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    Well their crime is their punishment, so it's not worth getting angry.

    And yet... I pity many of them. Some of them are doubtlessly just acting out based on deep-seated issues in dire need of treatment, and they torture themselves with their own dogma. Some of them are just using their ideals as an excuse to be monstrous creeps, but I feel for the ones who are just trapped in their own heads.

    I don't think it's too hard to look at the organic, living world and see as much or more death and suffering and cruelty in its design than beauty and balance and growth, but if anything I think that such horror demands a proactive response. Perhaps it is as simple as donating to charity or adopting rescue animals, but in any case it should be the imperative of every pessimist to curb the suffering of this world where they see it, to whatever degree they can. One candle in the dark may be snuffed out in the distance, but it was there, and that is what matters. Every moment is vital.

    I want them to understand this. I want this world to suffer less than it would if I had done nothing, and they are a part of this world.

    That is my creed. I looked into the void, the void looked into me, and I spat into it.
    http://www.heapershangout.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6078/if-you-stare-into-the-abyss-the-abyss-stares-back/p1
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    And for Pete's sake, not everything soaps!

    That one kind of cnidarian exists and it is amazing and no world with it can be completely soapy!

    I just don't like Hegel, but, then again, post-Abelard, western thought tends to get more secular, eventually reaching secular humanism, which I don't like.
  • kill living beings
    good news everyone. i had a cheeseburger with sauerkraut for dinner.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    i read that in farnsworth's voice

    i assume this was intentional
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    i've always liked this picture
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