The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Movies in general were more tolerable before CGI became commonplace
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    The Incredibles was CGI, so your argument is invalid.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    your FACE is invalid
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    "YOUR FACE" is my shtick

    Imi, you're grounded grounded grounded grounded
  • edited 2014-08-10 22:18:31
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    ^^^ The Incredibles is a good movie, though.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    ...this is the first time I've ever been grounded
  • kill living beings
    FSUBR_AUX3
  • maybe I just don't get it but like

    why would you expect a Ninja Turtles movie in 2014 to be anything but awful?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    maybe I just don't get it but like

    why would you expect a Ninja Turtles movie in 2014 to be anything but awful?

    Exactly
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I remember watching the second Ninja Turtles movie as a kid, many summers ago

    The thing that stood out to me the most is how it made no impression at all
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I remember watching the second Ninja Turtles movie as a kid, many summers ago

    The thing that stood out to me the most is how it made no impression at all

    I don't know why they had Shredder make mutants, and then not make them be Bebop and Rocksteady.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    see I don't even remember that
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It wasn't a very good movie, and it's like eighty minutes so
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Man remember when forgettable blockbusters were under 100 minutes long?
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I could be deluding myself since I haven't watched it in a long time, but I thought there was an odd sort of sincerity and fidelity to the source material in the first film that you don't really see in any other Ninja Turtles media.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The first movie was aight
  • I personally liked the 2007 animated one, but I'm weird

    I'm of the mindset that the Turtles are best placed in fully animated mediums.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
  • Odradek said:

    maybe I just don't get it but like

    why would you expect a Ninja Turtles movie in 2014 to be anything but awful?

    Exactly
    MovieBob put it like this: He doesn't want to play into the pattern of nerd entitlement to things that appeal specifically to nerds like him rather than their actual target audience and dismiss it out of hand, and finds that early material can often be misleading towards the quality of the finished product (see: Frozen), so he gives everything a fair chance right up until he actually sees it.

    Plus, no movie is destined to be terrible based entirely off of the property it's based off of and the year it's released, and I know you were being facetious but it's still an awfully dismissive thing to say.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Michael Bay

    TMNT

    Every trailer the movie has had

    You have no excuse except maybe scepticism about induction.
  • Michael Bay is capable of doing good/semi decent or at least interesting things (Bad Boys 2, Pain and Gain)

    TMNT has produced good things (the original series, several video games, most of the movies)

    Good movies have had bad trailers. (Frozen, Earth to Echo)
  • Dismissiveness is a terrible attitude to have. Most things are worthy of scrutiny.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
  • edited 2014-08-10 22:56:47
    Dude, come on. Please don't be condescending. I didn't condescend to you.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    it keeps happening
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I mean I get that it's Movie Bob's job to see every movie he can to see if it's good.

    But like

    That is not a lot of people's job
  • Okay Odradek you seem to be misunderstanding several things here

    First of all, media isn't about "value." Quality of execution is important, but the conversation on value is simply the wrong one to have. I can say I've played Skyrim more than I've played Portal, but in no regard can I say that one experience gave me more "bang for my buck" because both did different things with varying degrees of quality. You'd prefer to spend your money on things you enjoy, and that's fine. BUT

    There is a difference between "I'm reasonably certain this will be not so good and as such would prefer not to spend my money on it" and "This movie is going to be bad, everyone knows it, so why do people bother criticizing it." People criticize things because there's a discussion to be had, and that discussion shouldn't be dismissed on the grounds of your not being interested in it. You can't police discussion when you're watching movies for your own enjoyment and not for a discussion (WHICH IS FINE. But there has to be some recognition that that's your intent.) And even if you can sometimes get a good-ish idea of quality in like ridiculously broad terms from trailers and promotional material and such, it is never. ever. ever. a sure thing until the movie is actually out there.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the movie sucks, man
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Okay
  • Look, I don't want to give you a hard time but there's an air of superiority towards people who would discuss things like that floating around here and I really resent it. I don't give you shit for talking about antinatalists all the time, because I recognize that- as risible as the philosophy is- it's something you find troubling enough to bring up a lot, even if it is in the capacity of mocking them.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I don't really find it troubling anymore.

    It's more like a "remember that" thing
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Antinatalists are like pogs
  • kill living beings
    arena
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Does anyone in this age of LCDs still use screensavers? Besides my sister?
  • Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    maybe I just don't get it but like

    why would you expect a Ninja Turtles movie in 2014 to be anything but awful?

    Exactly
    MovieBob put it like this: He doesn't want to play into the pattern of nerd entitlement to things that appeal specifically to nerds like him rather than their actual target audience and dismiss it out of hand, and finds that early material can often be misleading towards the quality of the finished product (see: Frozen), so he gives everything a fair chance right up until he actually sees it.

    Plus, no movie is destined to be terrible based entirely off of the property it's based off of and the year it's released, and I know you were being facetious but it's still an awfully dismissive thing to say.
    I'm actually not being facetious at all.

    The Ninja Turtles movie is targeted at two groups of people. People invested in the franchise, and children. The former are really the only reliable indicators of if it did it's job as "a Ninja Turtles movie", and consensus seems to be that it did not.

    Giving something a chance is different from pretending it exists in a vacuum. IMO, given the past history of the franchise, Bay's past work (I am a pretty big Transformers fan and have a lot to say--none of it nice--about his treatment of that franchise), and similar movies from recent years, there is no reason at all to expect anything good out of a Ninja Turtles movie in 2014.

    The difference between me, Odradek, you, most people who saw the movie, and this MovieBob fellow (who I am going to assume is a critic, correct me if I'm wrong), is that Bob's a critic, and seeing movies he probably privately thinks are going to be terrible is part of that job. If I were a critic I'd do the same, but I'm not, and neither are most people who went to see this thing.

    My point, and Odradek's point, is that these people should probably have known better.

    As a sidenote, I thought Frozen was awful and never saw the trailer.
  • Everyone knew better, because no one had high hopes beyond pie in the sky stuff. People were chomping at the bit for a new punching bag.
  • What's a punching bag? It's (from what I hear) just unremarkable and not very good.
  • Oh no, it's pretty awful apparently. And since "everyone knew it" they're acting smug about being right.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    As a sidenote, I thought Frozen was awful and never saw the trailer.

    we can't be frenz anymor
  • And my issue is this weird pretense that movie critics shouldn't talk about things they're interested in. Like, yeah, they're gonna talk about the new TMNT movie because it's popular and bad and because kids deserve good movies but they didn't get one, that kind of thing.
  • Kexruct said:

    Oh no, it's pretty awful apparently. And since "everyone knew it" they're acting smug about being right.

    are they though?

    Like I definitely know what you mean--see any time RockPaperShotgun's ever mentioned a Call of Duty game--but I haven't seen any of that.
  • As a sidenote, I thought Frozen was awful and never saw the trailer.

    we can't be frenz anymor
    we could be Centy, if you could just

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    let it go
  • Every time a piece of media comes out that's bad and has a recognizable face attached to it to be blamed for its badness, yes, there will be smug.
  • well, alright.

    I can see how that'd be grating but you could just like.

    Ignore it.

    Do something else.

    Etc.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    You know, during some of my more involved Google Street View adventures last summer I made up the rule that, if I were to fall asleep while traveling, the unicorn I was riding would continue to carry me on to the next town so we could stop to rest.

    In reality, this was my way of "cheating" by skipping uninteresting bits of countryside--if a stretch of highway was boring enough that I literally fell asleep during it, I'd just hop to the next town or village.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    peace forever
  • Payday is tomorrow. It's the day I get paid. (But, not laid.)
  • Mo


    Mo, why have you never told me this

    This makes you even cooler than you already were to me
    told you what?
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