The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • edited 2014-07-11 23:23:55

    IIRC Franken Fran was the first manga i ever read that wasn't part of/the center of some larger franchise
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I could never make out the lyrics to the most unwanted. I'd pay attention, and then I'd lose it. And then it just blurs into noise.
  • the most unwanted music is amazing
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    naney said:

    so all a zombie is functionally identical to a lion that sneezes on you when it tries to kill you

    I admit, my mind went to Lippy the Lion sneezing on somebody

    Must have gotten that wire crossed with the Breezly and Sneezly wire
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    The best scene in Insidious is when the mom moves to a new house, and she thinks it's all over, that the nightmare is gone and done, that she may now live a peaceful life with her family, and then the record she puts on skips and changes to a different song and she looks back to see a midget in a sailor suit rocking out to Tiny Tim.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    The thing about zombies is that they're the living dead. Like, dead people who are somehow moving around again. I feel like that should be inherently scary, but pop culture has made them into a joke instead.

    So fuck pop culture
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    bacon zombies
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Dead Winter is the only zombie story I can call myself a fan of.
  • i find myself entirely indifferent to the idea of reanimated dead people walking about, them trying to kill me and others notwithstanding.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    But what about Loch Ness Monsters Naney
  • The only zombies I find interesting (not really scary, mind) are The Flood in the Halo franchise.

    also Sredni, if you are still here, you should check my thread about my blag.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Everyday i'm shufflin
  • the only things i find scary are jump scares, which i'm super susceptible to even if i know they're coming and i hate them.
  • Odradek said:

    Everyday i'm shufflin

    you also should check my blag thread because you said you were looking forward to the thing I just posted
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    naney said:

    the only things i find scary are jump scares, which i'm super susceptible to even if i know they're coming and i hate them.

    Which is ironic, because your job as a cat is to jump out of cabinets for a cheap scare.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    Everyday i'm shufflin

    you also should check my blag thread because you said you were looking forward to the thing I just posted
    I have it tabbed open.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    I startle easily, so jump scares get me.

    Stop being like me, naney. It's distressing, disturbing, distempering, and distracting.
  • Aliroz said:

    I startle easily, so jump scares get me.

    Stop being like me, naney. It's distressing, disturbing, distempering, and distracting.

    we are fairly similar in a number of respects, and different in others
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Problem I have with jump scares is that they're cheap. They're the refuge of hacks who can't create anything genuinely disturbing
  • edited 2014-07-11 23:57:40
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    naney said:

    Aliroz said:

    I startle easily, so jump scares get me.

    Stop being like me, naney. It's distressing, disturbing, distempering, and distracting.

    we are fairly similar in a number of respects, and different in others

    Weird, because Kexruct reminds me of you but also myself, but I consider you to be my opposite/inverse.

    I guess opposites need things in common, or they wouldn't be opposites.

    Like how Japan is not the opposite of an orange aglet made of tungsten carbide.
  • Problem I have with jump scares is that they're cheap. They're the refuge of hacks who can't create anything genuinely disturbing

    i know they are, which adds insult to injury when they get me to make stupid scared person noises
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Problem I have with jump scares is that they're cheap. They're the refuge of hacks who can't create anything genuinely disturbing

    Got a heart attack from a cheap jump scare, while trying to make those sweet, sweet youtube dollars? Call Saul Slendermann, you might just have a case!
  • edited 2014-07-11 23:59:25
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    Problem I have with jump scares is that they're cheap. They're the refuge of hacks who can't create anything genuinely disturbing


    Well, one of the few times that characterization, nuance, subtlety, and proper buildup made something truly scarier for me in a remarkable way was the anime Monster. So, I guess quality characterization etc. helps, but danged if a good jump scare doesnt terrify me, like The Firebird Suite.

    But, really, usually, the best way to scare me is a loud, sudden noise. It's just so visceral, a whole different sort of panic than the unsettling nervousness you seem to be talking about.
  • edited 2014-07-12 00:00:28
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    The only zombies I find interesting (not really scary, mind) are The Flood in the Halo franchise.

    also Sredni, if you are still here, you should check my thread about my blag.

    I will look.

    Also, on zombies and the like: Ligotti's "Autumnal" is an interesting take on the revenant concept, but it's literally two pages long and less scary for the subject than the implications.

    But really, all zombie stories worth their salt aren't really about zombies, but about death itself, or things tied to it like loss and the inability to cope with or understand it. The real horror in Pet Sematary is not the undead, but the father's guilt and terminal inability to deal with losing things or people.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Problem I have with jump scares is that they're cheap. They're the refuge of hacks who can't create anything genuinely disturbing

    Yes.
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Yeah, Stephen King said Pet Sematary was the one story he wrote that actually scared him. And I think he said that what specifically scared him was the conclusion that "sometimes dead is better."
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Dang it, I don't think jump scares are cheap.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Odradek said:

    I am rarely spooked by stories.

    I have, however, been creeped out by


    The Ball Room by China Mieville

    Blackwood's Baby by Laird Barron

    The Slide by David Lubbar

    and The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks

  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Obligatory plug for Knock-Knock
  • and The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks
    IIRC that's vash's mom's favorite book
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    MetaFour said:

    Yeah, Stephen King said Pet Sematary was the one story he wrote that actually scared him. And I think he said that what specifically scared him was the conclusion that "sometimes dead is better."

    It is basically the summation of every parental fear of what you could become given the right set of circumstances. That is the theme of a lot of King's work, but he's rarely that raw or direct about it.

    Horror is a much more personal genre than people seem to think. You are not just trying to scare people; you are trying to show people what you are afraid of and hope against hope that someone else feels the same way.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    and The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks
    IIRC that's vash's mom's favorite book
    Not favourite, but she is very much a fan.

    Still need to read it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    And yes, Barron and Mieville have a knack for creepiness.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    MetaFour said:

    Horror is a much more personal genre than people seem to think. You are not just trying to scare people; you are trying to show people what you are afraid of and hope against hope that someone else feels the same way.

    Knock-Knock succeeded on that account.

    I played that game months ago, and it unsettled me on such a deep, deep, level that I still feel uncomfortable thinking about it now.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Huh, apparently United Feature Syndicate is gone now. They sold their licensing division to Iconix, and then essentially sold themselves to Universal Press Syndicate in 2011.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Their licensing division and the rights to Peanuts. United still exists, though, as the copyright holder for things like Get Fuzzy and Pearls Before Swine.

    Scripps must have done it as a cost-cutting measure...
  • edited 2014-07-12 00:21:39
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I think the reason that I connect so deeply with Ligotti's work is, aside from the prose (which is purdy), that there is this constant scepticism about whether or not anything is real, and this impression that the real world is just a thin veneer painted on something hollow and indescribably horrific. Worse, there is this recurring theme of the pure chance encounter with a hole in the scenery, a wrong turn into enlightenment; or a slow peeling away of layers as if something is waiting for you just on the other side, something that has always been waiting for you behind it all.

    That idea has been the white noise in the background of the world of my personal fears since I don't even know when: That there is something wrong with everything and I'll just start noticing and won't be able to stop.

    On that charming note... goodnight, everyone!
  • edited 2014-07-12 00:27:46

    as if something is waiting for you just on the other side, something that has always been waiting for you behind it all.

    image

    ohai is just us
  • New yawk, new yaaaaawk
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    naney said:

    as if something is waiting for you just on the other side, something that has always been waiting for you behind it all.

    image

    ohai is just us
    I am relieved.

    *cuddles kitties of mystery*
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Anywho, I'mma go to bed now maybe.

    Sweet dreams.
  • naney said:

    zombies are the opposite of scary

    i don't care if they are fast zombies or slow zombies or smart zombies or of they're mutants or if they're the result of an ancient curse, they're boring piles of poop

    cuz the worst thing they're gonna do is eat you or give you a disease that kills you

    woop de fuckin do lots of things can eat you

    lions can eat you, sharks can eat you, hippos can rip you in half with their teeth but not eat you because they're vegetarians, being eaten is a thing that happens w/e

    and the flu can totally kill you

    so all a zombie is functionally identical to a lion that sneezes on you when it tries to kill you

    and you cannot seriously tell me that that's horror film worthy

    Zombies are like the scariest thing in the world to me because they represent a total loss of identity.

    And, like, yeah, nothing is scary when you break it down to its basest elements. Jason is just a guy who doesn't like people having sex. The Slender Man just annoys people. Ghosts are just dead people who didn't really die. Et cetera.
  • It's all about execution. Very little is scary in concept alone.
  • I see where you're coming from but as I see it a zombie is your body, but it ain't you. You're dead, but like there's some other force making your corpse do things, but the thing that makes that corpse different from a slab of steak is gone.
  • Kexruct said:

    It's all about execution. Very little is scary in concept alone.

    Very true.

    which is why a jump scare involving zombies would still make me leap out of my chair and scream like a little girl
  • edited 2014-07-12 00:52:08
    ^^Well, that's really just a matter of personal preference then.

    There are a few other things that make the idea of a zombie apocalypse scary, though: the complete breakdown of society, normal people being the real monsters, and the overriding idea that no matter what you're doing the zombies will always end up winning because you can't do much to stave off death at their hands because they're ubiquitous.
  • kill living beings
    okay that's it you two, read franken zombies right this instant
  • franken fran is always dope
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