The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS
    Energy is precious, better use it toward good things instead fighting
  • BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS
    I probably sound like a stoner and that is okay
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    ZUN created his first boy today and you nerds are arguing
  • SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    I am doing this because it is annoying to see something harmless called evil in the same breath as someone calling RLM good criticism.

    critics making jokes you don't like is harming everyone

    on the internet

    in 2014
    and really, I don't care that you don't like RLM or his jokes, and you have every right to

    but the least you can do is to refrain from spouting out inaccurate crap, like the rape and sexual violence stuff, which is frankly not even implicitly shown in the actual reviews
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    There are some things that are shitty to joke about, and make for unpleasant viewing.
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    Doesn't RLM have more than the Plinkett reviews anyway? Like Half in the Bag
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Yes.

    That aside, why is the conversation still happening? Some people find sarcastic pedantry for its own sake funny and others don't; some people think The Tree of Life was a bad movie* and some don't; some people care about video reviewer people bitching each other out and some don't.

    *Aside: I have a friend who adores David Lynch and the like and found that film intolerably dull, so make of that what you will.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It's not really going anymore, since Kex left for emotional problems

    the RLM thing is mostly unrelated
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    The Brows Held High video is good, btw
  • edited 2014-06-14 16:37:23
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    I just finished watching it myself, and I agree with you.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    update: this Brows Held High guy actually seems fairly good at what he does so far

    He is, generally speaking. I like him a lot, actually.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    I've paused it for now, but I'll resume it later.
  • Tachyon said:

    There are some things that are shitty to joke about, and make for unpleasant viewing.

    it all depends on the context and intent

    of course, if the joke was knowingly directly towards someone that was an actual victim, or someone close who was one, then yeah, the guy needs a serious ass-kicking

    otherwise, when someone makes an unfunny joke about sensitive topics like that, I prefer to just turn the other cheek
  • kill living beings

    ZUN created his first boy today and you nerds are arguing

    what about the sexy turtle
  • and yeah, out of all the TGWTG crew I would recommend Kyle the most
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ^^^ Alright, but you can't blame other people for being bothered by it.

    If you're making videos on the Internet with the expectation of a broad audience, you have a responsibility to consider the implications of what you say, even in jest.

    Within nerd circles there does exist a culture that makes light of sexual assault and misogyny, and humour absolutely can feed into that.
  • ZUN created his first boy today and you nerds are arguing

    what about the sexy turtle
    there's also the shop dude though i guess he isn't in any of the games
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    I am doing this because it is annoying to see something harmless called evil in the same breath as someone calling RLM good criticism.

    critics making jokes you don't like is harming everyone

    on the internet

    in 2014
    Yes, I am a dumb person for being annoyed at rape jokes.

    Let's all laugh at rapemurder.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    SF_Sorrow said:

    SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    I am doing this because it is annoying to see something harmless called evil in the same breath as someone calling RLM good criticism.

    critics making jokes you don't like is harming everyone

    on the internet

    in 2014
    and really, I don't care that you don't like RLM or his jokes, and you have every right to

    but the least you can do is to refrain from spouting out inaccurate crap, like the rape and sexual violence stuff, which is frankly not even implicitly shown in the actual reviews
    I'm sorry your favorite internet critics are terrible people.


  • indisputable proof that video games are art.
  • edited 2014-06-14 16:57:37

    Odradek said:

    SF_Sorrow said:

    SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    I am doing this because it is annoying to see something harmless called evil in the same breath as someone calling RLM good criticism.

    critics making jokes you don't like is harming everyone

    on the internet

    in 2014
    and really, I don't care that you don't like RLM or his jokes, and you have every right to

    but the least you can do is to refrain from spouting out inaccurate crap, like the rape and sexual violence stuff, which is frankly not even implicitly shown in the actual reviews
    I'm sorry your favorite internet critics are terrible people.
    I'm sorry you think "making unsavory jokes" = morally evil
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    SF_Sorrow said:

    SF_Sorrow said:

    Odradek said:

    I am doing this because it is annoying to see something harmless called evil in the same breath as someone calling RLM good criticism.

    critics making jokes you don't like is harming everyone

    on the internet

    in 2014
    and really, I don't care that you don't like RLM or his jokes, and you have every right to

    but the least you can do is to refrain from spouting out inaccurate crap, like the rape and sexual violence stuff, which is frankly not even implicitly shown in the actual reviews
    I'm sorry your favorite internet critics are terrible people.
    I'm sorry you think "making unsavory jokes" = morally evil
    What do YOU think is the funniest thing about rape.


  • indisputable proof that video games are art.

    rockleesmile is the greatest reviewer/critic of all time imho
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek, take a chill pill. At this point you are merely perpetuating a dumb and ugly argument that I would rather we never had in this thread.

    Sorrow, please stop feeding the proverbial beast.
  • image

    idk anything about touhou but this is good
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:02:52
    My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek, take a chill pill. At this point you are merely perpetuating a dumb and ugly argument that I would rather we never had in this thread.


    Sorrow, please stop feeding the proverbial beast.
    I will not bring this up again unless it comes up at some indeterminate point in the future independent of my volition
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Hey guys I bought a-

    oh.

    -walks slowly back out of thread-
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    Hey guys I bought a-

    oh.

    -walks slowly back out of thread-

    I think it's done now/

    I accidentally typed "I think it's dumb now" which it always was anyway.
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:07:22

    okay then, I will just say that I don't believe making jokes about such stuff automatically means that you actually endorse that people doing them is okay
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It doesn't, of course.

    That doesn't make the jokes themselves OK.
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:10:20
    Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu

    image


    idk anything about touhou but this is good
    He drew a picture of that girl hugging a giant bottle of Coronita that was adorable, but I can't find it now
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:12:40
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Honestly, the little I've seen of RLM kind of grated on me, but never really offended me at all. It just kind of... I guess I get what he's trying to do but it just does not work for me in the least. There are interesting points being made here and there but it's just very tedious and generally unfunny.

    But yes, better to talk about Japanese tech nerds buying booze.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    the dot on Gill Kayo's "i" always bugged me
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It's amazing how I have been able to grow tired and bored of something called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"'s cultural influence.

    Alternate universe me would not believe this.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    It's amazing how I have been able to grow tired and bored of something called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"'s cultural influence.


    Alternate universe me would not believe this.
    It does sound like some kind of surreal parody of itself, doesn't it? It's like finding The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Died And Became Mixed-Up Zombies dull: The title should almost be enough.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I quite liked the first TMNT film as a kid, and I get the feeling I would still like it if I revisited it.

    Otherwise, I think I'm agreed with you.
  • Tachyon said:

    It doesn't, of course.

    That doesn't make the jokes themselves OK.

    and they're just that - jokes

    I'm skeptical of the possibility that someone would start to think that sexual assault is a-ok after hearing a couple jokes about it

    such people who does think that are (wannabe) assholes in the first place
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:26:57
    My dreams exceed my real life

    I quite liked the first TMNT film as a kid, and I get the feeling I would still like it if I revisited it.


    Otherwise, I think I'm agreed with you.
    TMNT is decent when it plays it's achingly stupid premise completely straight as a mockery of how seriously comics stuff took itself when it was created, and how serious it still takes itself.

    Compare the original
    image

    to the eighties cartoon which isn't even funny to five year olds.

    The movie, while less po-faced than the original comic, still has some dark corners to it that help make it decent.
  • edited 2014-06-14 17:25:34
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^ Unfortunately, people who are predisposed to be awful like that tend to assume that all of their "peers" think like they do. Making jokes that come off as being at the expense of victims encourages these very unsettling assumptions.

    But I really don't want to keep talking about this...
  • It is known that ZUN is a fan of music that uses FM (Frequency Modulation) Synthesis, as most of the non-MIDI music in the PC-98 games were created using FM Synthesis. He also states in a note in the Akyu's Untouched Score albums that he resents the gradual phasing out of FM Synthesis that's occurring today.
    a man after my own heart
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    ^^^ I think the formatting on your post broke. I agree with what you're trying to say, at any rate.
  • SF_Sorrow said:



    I'm sorry you think "making unsavory jokes" = morally evil

    "morally evil" seems kinda redundant
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    ^^^ I think the formatting on your post broke. I agree with what you're trying to say, at any rate.

    It seemed broken at first, but I thought I fixed it?
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Odradek said:

    ^^^ I think the formatting on your post broke. I agree with what you're trying to say, at any rate.

    It seemed broken at first, but I thought I fixed it?
    You did, but part of your sentence disappeared in the process. That was what I was commenting on.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    TMNT is decent when it plays it's achingly stupid premise completely straight as a mockery of how seriously comics stuff took itself when it was created, and how serious it still takes itself.

    It's probably worth keeping in mind that Stan Sakai's original point with the comic was to parody the outrageously violent "anti-heroes" of the era, with the titular characters basically outright murdering The Shredder in the original one-off.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I notice that the 2003 TMNT show is well-liked within the TMNT fandom but pretty much nobody else cares about it
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    This thread is now about Walt Kelly's Pogo.

    Porkypine is best character, with Albert a close second. Cowbirds are worst characters.

    Mahoney lay soda devotion.
  • Aliroz said:

    This thread is now about Walt Kelly's Pogo.

    Porkypine is best character, with Albert a close second. Cowbirds are worst characters.

    Mahoney lay soda devotion.

    aww yeah thank you for the best subject change ever
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    TMNT is decent when it plays it's achingly stupid premise completely straight as a mockery of how seriously comics stuff took itself when it was created, and how serious it still takes itself.

    It's probably worth keeping in mind that Stan Sakai's original point with the comic was to parody the outrageously violent "anti-heroes" of the era, with the titular characters basically outright murdering The Shredder in the original one-off.
    Yeah I know.
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