The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • But it's like

    not

    Like all of them were really different, even the ones in the same series.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    milk
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It's partially a reflection of my own sensibilities.

    I like a certain kind of Superhero story. Marvel is not delivering that. Ang Lee's Hulk, Tim Burton's Batman Returns, Zach Snyder's Watchmen, even that one Ghost Rider movie gave me something. Every MCU movie is a hamburger.

    It's a good hamburger.

    But there's only so much processed beef with different toppings that you can eat in a short amount of time.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I won't lie:

    Watching Captain America 2 felt kind of overwhelming to my senses at times

    I worried I was overdosing on Marvel movies
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Anonus said:

    I won't lie:


    Watching Captain America 2 felt kind of overwhelming to my senses at times

    I worried I was overdosing on Marvel movies
    It's dangling CGI keys in front of your face for two hours and calling it social commentary.

    I'm being much, much meaner than is strictly fair.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    CGI, eww
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.

    it struck me as a half-baked mess

    none of the Marvel movies I've seen have come off that way
  • The most consistent similarities in the MCU movies is that they're optimistic(ish), they rely on well executed but still pretty basic storytelling, and that they make a ton of money. I could understand wh ythat would be tiring, but "safe" is only bad when the calculatedness is plainly evident in the movie's problems.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    CGI, eww

    Well once we hit Peak Pixel and miners have to search harder and harder for bits, we will have to go back to puppets and matte paintings eventually
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    The most consistent similarities in the MCU movies is that they're optimistic(ish), they rely on well executed but still pretty basic storytelling, and that they make a ton of money. I could understand wh ythat would be tiring, but "safe" is only bad when the calculatedness is plainly evident in the movie's problems.

    It's not Loonatics Unleashed or Johnny Test, I will say that for it.
  • edited 2014-05-24 00:18:16

    i have to say that whenever i've seen a marvel superhero movie the first time it has seemed pretty darn entertaining, but watching it a second time it falls apart like wet cardboard.

    like once you know what's coming the whole thing becomes very... artificial.

    like a magic trick once you know how it's done.

    and it makes me feel lied to.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Anonus said:

    Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.

    it struck me as a half-baked mess

    none of the Marvel movies I've seen have come off that way
    People talked about smashed buildings and strangled villains because the mediocre competency of the MCU didn't distract them.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    MCU in film, Dragonlance in literature, COD and Assassin's Creed in games, and Mad Men on TV: the forces of safe competency that must be destroyed for anything new to be able to grow.
  • edited 2014-05-24 00:22:14

    some of the wardrobe choices on Mad Men are very nice, they have good stylists onboard

    also i thought they stopped making Dragonlance books ages ago
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    some of the wardrobe choices on Mad Men are very nice, they have good stylists onboard


    also i thought they stopped making Dragonlance books ages ago
    And may it remain forever so.
  • Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.


    The conversation was mostly about the movie's faults. Moreover, there's a big difference between a functioning, well made, safe movie and cynically made one. They are nearly identical superficially, but completely different at their core.
    There is also a big difference between a daring and important (but flawed) movie and a movie that tried to be daring and important but failed. Again, superficially si,ilar but the they are worlds apart.
  • image

    like look at that plaid pants + chelsea boots + db blazer combo
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.


    The conversation was mostly about the movie's faults
    Yes!

    Because it had them!

    It was bad, and had many flaws, and because it had them, people talked and complained and pointed out shit that Marvel would have gotten away with, and something good came out of something shit.

    All that ever comes out of MCU is gifs
  • I think you're getting way too caught up in the texxture of this stuff, honestly.

    Also Naney you've used that analogy, "falls apart like wet cardboard" several times now but I don't really get what you mean. It's not like they're riddled with character inconsistency or anything.
  • Aliroz said:

    TURBO. TURBO THE RACING SNAIL MOVIE.

    well, Tre will approve, at least

    indeeeeeeeeed :D
  • i mean it all feels so... artificial.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I thought that Avengers:Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon was decent.
  • Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.


    The conversation was mostly about the movie's faults
    Yes!

    Because it had them!

    It was bad, and had many flaws, and because it had them, people talked and complained and pointed out shit that Marvel would have gotten away with, and something good came out of something shit.

    All that ever comes out of MCU is gifs

    Sometimes a movie just has to be itself to the best of its ability. Marvel is really good at that. There is nothing wrong with competency; cynicism, yes, but not competency.
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    VitaminWater Energy tramp stamp cutie mark
  • Marvel is really good at that. There is nothing wrong with competency; cynicism, yes, but not competency.
    eeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    I will say one thing about Man of Steel: it was written by fascist misogynist David S. Goyer, but at least it made people angry enough we had a conversation.


    The conversation was mostly about the movie's faults
    Yes!

    Because it had them!

    It was bad, and had many flaws, and because it had them, people talked and complained and pointed out shit that Marvel would have gotten away with, and something good came out of something shit.

    All that ever comes out of MCU is gifs

    Sometimes a movie just has to be itself to the best of its ability. Marvel is really good at that. There is nothing wrong with competency; cynicism, yes, but not competency.
    There is when competency replaces ambition.
  • 0/10 that guy is smoking
  • "competence" kinda falls into the lowest point on my enjoyment spectrum

    incompetence can be quite entertaining, as can excellence, but competence just kinda flies by.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Tre said:

    Aliroz said:

    TURBO. TURBO THE RACING SNAIL MOVIE.

    well, Tre will approve, at least

    indeeeeeeeeed :D

    I totally thought that Jet was going to be the one to get the speed superpower, because they set him up as so opposed to Theo's racing obsession.

    and, also, who names a character, "Jet", and doesn't give him super speed or flying?
  • plus incompetent things tend to be weird and have unique things going on, and i like unique things.
  • But like that is not happening. At all. There isn't a dearth of ambition because popular movies are safe and functional. Popular stuff is ALWAYS safe and functional. That is how it gets popular. There was never a period of time when the moviegoing landscape wasn't dominated by relatively easy to sell movies, and I would much rather see a bunch of optimistic, upbeat, well written movies be popular than a bunch of cookie-cutter westerns or celebrity-vehicle buddy cop movies.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    But like that is not happening. At all. There isn't a dearth of ambition because popular movies are safe and functional. Popular stuff is ALWAYS safe and functional. That is how it gets popular. There was never a period of time when the moviegoing landscape wasn't dominated by relatively easy to sell movies, and I would much rather see a bunch of optimistic, upbeat, well written movies be popular than a bunch of cookie-cutter westerns or celebrity-vehicle buddy cop movies.

    I see your point.

    Part of the problem is that I have a friend who talks my ear off about this stuff.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    I like westerns that are upbeat, well written, and optimistic.
  • There's this weird tendency to equate competency to mediocrity, and it's immensely frustrating to me because they are much more different than people give credit for. The reason why mediocre things tend to faade away rather quickly isn't because they're safe, it's because on some fundamental level, thent things they didn't work. Competency is all about fundamentals, though, so competent things tend to stick around. Is there a hint of ambition in the original Star Wars trilogy or the LotR movies? No. But they stick around because traditional, functional storytelling done well is powerful.
  • i don't really like either of those things.
  • edited 2014-05-24 00:48:09

    also im soooooo tempted to make a dig about just how utterly non-compelling star wars is but im not gonna do it
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Star Wars was taking a ton of chances
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Like, space magic samurai in bad dialogue universe is a risk
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    puppets and matte paintings 4ever
  • As was making a movie about a superhero no one cared about, or making an old school lighthearted action adventure in a landscape dominated by grimdark, or making a movie that is effectively just a climax of several other movies. What's your point?
  • the original star wars movies are overrated though because people watched them at a younger age than they did the prequels
  • Aliroz said:

    Tre said:

    Aliroz said:

    TURBO. TURBO THE RACING SNAIL MOVIE.

    well, Tre will approve, at least

    indeeeeeeeeed :D

    I totally thought that Jet was going to be the one to get the speed superpower, because they set him up as so opposed to Theo's racing obsession.

    and, also, who names a character, "Jet", and doesn't give him super speed or flying?
    Jet's name was actually Chet. 

    Besides, Theo Turbo needed a foil to play off of-- he's the impossible snail, so obviously there has to be someone or something to compare him to that's definitely possible (in this case, our lovely neurotic big brother snail).
  • also im soooooo tempted to make a dig about just how utterly non-compelling star wars is but im not gonna do it


    The original is legitimately one of the most compelling movies I've ever seen, and somewhat famously so. There's a reason why stringing together what happened in that movie from memory is so easy even though so much happened.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    or making an old school lighthearted action adventure in a landscape dominated by grimdark

    Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh
  • are you trying to tell me that i enjoyed those movies?

    'cuz im telling you that i didn't.
  • -calica said:

    the original star wars movies are overrated though because people watched them at a younger age than they did the prequels


    Isn't it kind of presumptuous to assume that's the only reason the original trilogy has stuck around for over thirty five years?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Star Wars has it's highs and lows
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